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Horrible Taste posted:Funimation posted a trailer for the US release: Why the heck is there a shot of a bunch of gate valves at 0:50?
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The imdb/com release dates page now has There's a touring Japanese Film Festival in October so I wonder if it'll be a part of that?
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Sep 11, 2016 05:00
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It's so drat great to finally see Godzilla 1984 in its uncut glory. I've never seen it before and it's really good!
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Sep 14, 2016 23:38
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Jimbot posted:It's so drat great to finally see Godzilla 1984 in its uncut glory. I've never seen it before and it's really good! My bluray came today. It's a great film that got loving butchered.
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Sep 15, 2016 02:16
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I just really hate the look of Godzilla in that one compared to the other Heisei movies but I should give the original japanese version a shot. The sea lice freaked me out good as a kid.
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Sep 15, 2016 02:25
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Outside of Shin Godzilla, is every Godzilla movie available in the US? I'm pretty sure I have ever every available release, except Tristar.
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Sep 15, 2016 02:34
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Some of them (Son of Godzilla, Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla) were available but are now out of print, and no company's snapped up rights so they're second-hand only now.
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Seeing it on Wed Oct 12. P pumped. Also got my 84 blu ray which is great. Still may be my favorite Godzilla film.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:40
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I think Son and vs Mechagodzilla are the only two that haven't been reissued, and most of those Sony releases ended up as Kraken titles so there's a chance.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:54
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The number one thing you gotta worry about with US releases is dub-titles
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Sep 15, 2016 19:01
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They can be a pain in the dick, but sometimes you wait 40 years for a foreign movie to come out, you take what you can get.
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Sep 15, 2016 19:22
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I completely forgotten that the second greatest scene in Godzilla history (the first being the entire cyborg chase sequence in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah) was in Godzilla 1984: that homeless guy running away from a greenscreen'd Godzilla. It's so loving bad that it wraps around to being absolutely amazing. That character came out of nowhere in that movie and ended up with the best scene. I had to pause the movie because I was laughing so hard when it happened.
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Sep 15, 2016 22:21
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Greatest Godzilla sequence is the first ten minutes of 2002. Also, please dig trailer of same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cotXakan9ng Uncle Boogeyman posted:I just really hate the look of Godzilla in that one compared to the other Heisei movies Don't feel bad about this, he looks loving terrible somehow. What really blew my mind was finding out that BioGoji was largely the same suit from the shoulders down, and once you see it you can't ever unsee it. Bimmi fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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Sep 15, 2016 22:44
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I always liked the '84 suit - it's got the brutish vibes of the Kingu-Goji design. My fave is GMK Goji
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Just so happened that while I was summering in Tokyo in 1994 one of the local retail hellmouths held an official Godzilla retrospective thing, and among other delights as one walked through this space there was the actual, goddamn near 20-foot-tall Cybot used in G84,. It was working great and, to say the very goddamn least, impressive.
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Sep 15, 2016 23:17
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Has the Godzilla hotel been brought up yet? Heres an article on it: http://metro.co.uk/2015/04/29/roarsome-the-godzilla-hotel-in-japan-has-finally-opened-its-doors-5172282/
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Sep 15, 2016 23:40
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couple years old but drat, I would live in that room.
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The thing that really gets me about the 84 movie (having just watched that Blu Ray last night) is the switch between the suit and this upper torso head animatronic model for a lot of the roars and close ups that looks really stilted in action comparison to the rest of the full body action sequences. I've always had a soft spot for it as a suit. My only complaint is sometimes he ends up with puppy dog eyes in some of the wide open shots or close ups on his face. Also the breathing holes in the neck blu ray made that way more obvious than it ever was in earlier lower def releases.
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Sep 16, 2016 19:29
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Those aren't breathing holes, they're exaust ports for Godzilla's atomic breath.
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The Notorious ZSB posted:Also the breathing holes in the neck blu ray made that way more obvious than it ever was in earlier lower def releases. That's been an unfortunate issue in all of the new Blu-Rays; I'm especially seeing a lot more wires holding up wings and such than I used to with the old DVDs or VHS.
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That sounds awesome, though.
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How does the mirror skyscraper effect hold up?
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Sep 17, 2016 07:50
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K. Waste posted:That sounds awesome, though. Not if you like movies to look good
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Sep 17, 2016 20:18
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Improbable Lobster posted:Not if you like movies to look good It's the same principle as when a Universal Studios ride breaks down while you're on it, the lights go up, and you see the apparatus - that poo poo is often more technically marvelous than the threadbare attempts to disguise it
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Sep 17, 2016 20:31
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K. Waste posted:It's the same principle as when a Universal Studios ride breaks down while you're on it, the lights go up, and you see the apparatus - that poo poo is often more technically marvelous than the threadbare attempts to disguise it I don't watch movies in the hopes of seeing how they were made. That's what documentaries are for.
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Sep 17, 2016 22:01
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Gojira 1984 ain't the best, but it's really good specifically because Godzilla is presented as a demonic statue, like Pazuzu in The Exorcist. He's almost invariably filmed head-on, usually motionless. Emphasis is always on the glassy cartoon eyes. The point is specifically that the character is 'unrealistic' - that no rubber costume can fully capture the divinity of the creature.
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Improbable Lobster posted:I don't watch movies in the hopes of seeing how they were made. That's what documentaries are for. I can see we're never gonna see eye-to-eye on this, but you still ain't hearin' me out. You being able to "see the strings" in 1080p is the inglorious fulfillment of chuckleheads since time immemorial falsely claiming that they could "see the strings" on their pan-and-scanned, washed out VHS tapes and cable television monitors. It would be one thing if you told me, "The film grain and color balance isn't being accurately reproduced," because that's a genuine issue of bad transfer. But being able to see the strings guiding Rodan or the flamethrower in Gamera's mouth actually adds to the mystifying power of the spectacle for me. It's particularly satisfying knowing that I'm actually finally keying in on something that as a kid I could never see, but all the kids who picked on me claimed they could see just to spite what I liked. It would be like finding out a midget really did commit suicide in the background of The Wizard of Oz.
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Sep 17, 2016 22:40
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Don't let a few bad apples spoil the whole string spotting community. Most of us are pretty ethical.
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Dylazodelan posted:That's been an unfortunate issue in all of the new Blu-Rays; I'm especially seeing a lot more wires holding up wings and such than I used to with the old DVDs or VHS. Couldn't they just CG those wires out? I've been noticing that with my blu rays as well and it's grating. I kinda regret buying them and wish I woulda stuck with DVD.
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Yaws posted:Couldn't they just CG those wires out? I've been noticing that with my blu rays as well and it's grating. I kinda regret buying them and wish I woulda stuck with DVD. I wouldn't mind some CG retouching, if only to remove small SFX flaws like that. But I guess that would negate the "campy charm" that the early movies have.
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Yaws posted:Couldn't they just CG those wires out? I've been noticing that with my blu rays as well and it's grating. I kinda regret buying them and wish I woulda stuck with DVD. That'd kinda defeat the point though - no one's going into a pre-96 Godzilla movie expecting to not see a dude in a rubber suit. Those things really drive home that they created tangible FX stuff, like a whole tiny tiny town and just went to fuckin' town on it. I like that.
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I can't recall offhand any attempts to clean up quote unquote "bad" old special effects which were not horribly ill-advised, so it's just as well that Toho is one of the least likely studios to do something like that anyway.
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The remasters for the original Star Trek were not bad but they went overboard in replacing every single optical shot. Actually now that I think of it Blade Runner: the Final Cut looks good, they messed with the matte lines but that was enough.
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I, Butthole posted:That'd kinda defeat the point though - no one's going into a pre-96 Godzilla movie expecting to not see a dude in a rubber suit. Those things really drive home that they created tangible FX stuff, like a whole tiny tiny town and just went to fuckin' town on it. I like that. I'm not at all interested in seeing wires in my science fiction films. The filmmakers certainly would rather you not see them.
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I, Butthole posted:That'd kinda defeat the point though - no one's going into a pre-96 Godzilla movie expecting to not see a dude in a rubber suit. Those things really drive home that they created tangible FX stuff, like a whole tiny tiny town and just went to fuckin' town on it. I like that. Funny enough, the cities get even worse treatment from the "make fun of you for liking it" crowd, yet they're often a goddamn masterpiece, especially the early ones. Tsubaraya did some AMAZINGLY detailed work at recreating Japanese cities to look exactly like the real thing. Rodan especially has some impressive photo-realistic stuff. The big problem is most of these were in the 60s, when most architecture was just "plain square buildings" for the most part, so it's easy to overlook the detail level. Tsubaraya once got in trouble with the US military, because his aircraft carrier overhead shot (of a model, natch) was close enough to the real deal, that they thought he was actually doing illegal flyovers of their ships for the footage.
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There is beauty in imperfection.
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Choco1980 posted:Funny enough, the cities get even worse treatment from the "make fun of you for liking it" crowd, yet they're often a goddamn masterpiece, especially the early ones. Tsubaraya did some AMAZINGLY detailed work at recreating Japanese cities to look exactly like the real thing. Rodan especially has some impressive photo-realistic stuff. The big problem is most of these were in the 60s, when most architecture was just "plain square buildings" for the most part, so it's easy to overlook the detail level. Tsubaraya once got in trouble with the US military, because his aircraft carrier overhead shot (of a model, natch) was close enough to the real deal, that they thought he was actually doing illegal flyovers of their ships for the footage. If anything, the 90s films live up more to the "cardboard buildings" stereotype; there didn't seem like much was done to make them look like read buildings and not mostly-hollow models.
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Dylazodelan posted:If anything, the 90s films live up more to the "cardboard buildings" stereotype; there didn't seem like much was done to make them look like read buildings and not mostly-hollow models. Well, also, by then they blew up Godzilla to twice his original size, ironically to compensate for how much higher the average building height had gotten in major metropolitan areas. Trade off is less detailed miniatures.
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It's like how the workprint of X-Men Wolverine Origins was the preferred way to see it.
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Choco1980 posted:Funny enough, the cities get even worse treatment from the "make fun of you for liking it" crowd, yet they're often a goddamn masterpiece, especially the early ones. Tsubaraya did some AMAZINGLY detailed work at recreating Japanese cities to look exactly like the real thing. Rodan especially has some impressive photo-realistic stuff. The big problem is most of these were in the 60s, when most architecture was just "plain square buildings" for the most part, so it's easy to overlook the detail level. Tsubaraya once got in trouble with the US military, because his aircraft carrier overhead shot (of a model, natch) was close enough to the real deal, that they thought he was actually doing illegal flyovers of their ships for the footage. I absolutely adore those miniature cities and if I had the space and money I would totally build one myself.
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