|
Donkwich posted:Of all the election cycles to want to vote third party, they choose the cycle where the third party candidates are much more incompetent than they normally are. Some of the electorate is so desperate for their dream non-weird anti-establishment candidate, but many of them will come crawling back. The 3rd party candidates are exactly the same as 2012 though?
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:10
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 13, 2024 15:38 |
|
|
Night10194 posted:It's happened multiple times before and he's self-destructed every time. This is the 4th time since last year that Trump has reached or exceeded 44% in national poll aggregation. Last time was the conventions and he went all the way up to 45.6%. Every time he crashes back down to 40% or below. Outside of October 8th 2015-December 15th 2015, the longest period of time he's been solidly above 43% was the convention when he flew towards the sun for 9 whole days, July 23-July 31. The entire race has seen Trump more or less bouncing between SUPER hosed polling numbers and hosed polling numbers. Trump is Trump. He manages to, comparatively, hold his poo poo together for a week or two every once in a while and the media fills the void with think pieces on bad news for Hillary. If you like, you can look at it the opposite way, and every once in a while think pieces on Hillary are louder than Trump's gently caress ups. However Trump always finds a way to get the attention and the scorn back on himself. He can't keep from loving up, and his team of yes men can only corral him for so long before he goes off. Could this be mythic time of difference, when the laws of reality go haywire and we transition from the comically worst timeline to the the true darkest timeline? Sure, it's a lurking possibility. Not a very big one though, especially since Trump is Trump. Remember that McCain and Romney both lead for brief periods as well. It's all going to work out and we'll all be drinking our favorite citrus mixed drinks come November. And in 2020 we'll all freak out when Ted Cruz looks to be winning and all is lost, only to victoriously drink Canadian Punch in November.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:14
|
|
|
Yeah but they're even worse now somehow. Stein wasn't actively shilling for Putin in 2012 as I recall.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:15
|
|
|
Trump could spend the entire debate pissing blood into his own mouth and he would win the debate. We all know this.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:15
|
|
|
SLOSifl posted:Trump could spend the entire debate pissing blood into his own mouth and he would win the debate. We all know this. I have so much blood. The best blood! People would pay me to donate blood, everyone's saying it. My blood would cure cancer.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:16
|
|
|
Will the debt limit be hit on 17th? OP says something to that effect.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:18
|
|
|
Argas posted:I have so much blood. The best blood! People would pay me to donate blood, everyone's saying it. My blood would cure cancer. I would personally volunteer to drink a few pints of Trump blood directly from the vein, regardless of the veracity of this claim.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:18
|
|
|
I think some perspective is helpful from the past two elections' RCP poll aggregates. Yes, they both had Obama, but: In 2012, Obama was leading Romney by about 3 points on this day. He was leading Romney by less than a point when he won the election with that electoral map. In 2008, McCain was leading Obama by about 1.5 points on this day. LMAO though, on RCP's election news page: quote:Transparency Issue Clouds Clinton, Trump Campaigns
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:22
|
|
|
Jesus. The shifting goalposts are real. First, it was "Trump will say something stupid and ruin himself again." Then, when he didn't, it was "he'll never break 40% in the polls". Then, it was "oh, Clinton still leads by four or five". Then it became, "She can win even if she loses all the swing states". loving hell. Just accept the fact she is losing and doing a lovely job of campaigning. The debates are the only hope we have left before a madman takes office and kills us all. EDIT: His campaign just released a statement saying Obama was born in the US. Now watch as the press gives him credit and he continues to rise in the polls.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:22
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:Jesus. The shifting goalposts are real. Something something loving toxx something. Edit: Except Trump himself refuses to affirmake that Obama was born here.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:24
|
|
|
Cthulhumatic posted:Something something loving toxx something. gently caress off. I don't have to place a stupid bet to point out that this thread is delusional.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:24
|
|
|
Hillary isn't losing she's up +2 in the poll of polls
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:25
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:gently caress off. I don't have to place a stupid bet to point out that this thread is delusional. Please have a heart attack already.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:26
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:gently caress off. I don't have to place a stupid bet to point out that this thread is delusional. Toxx
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:26
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:delusional. Yup. Also gently caress yourself. Trump refuses to pull back on being a birther.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:26
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:gently caress off. I don't have to place a stupid bet to point out that this thread is delusional. I mean really if you're this absolutely convinced that Donald Trump is going to become President and kill us all in a nuclear war, shouldn't you get out there and get some hedonism on? Maybe run up some credit cards you won't have to pay back? Or perhaps prepare yourself and obtain durable goods and other resources for yourself, or perhaps attempt to store seeds in a radiation-proof bunker for the future to use to regenerate the ecology?
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:26
|
|
|
straight up brolic posted:Hillary isn't losing she's up +2 in the poll of polls
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:26
|
|
|
straight up brolic posted:Hillary isn't losing she's up +2 in the poll of polls Xerxes.org, the Poll of Polls
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:26
|
|
|
straight up brolic posted:and in every model
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:27
|
|
|
straight up brolic posted:and she's had pneumonia for the past week and had no control of message
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:27
|
|
|
smg77 posted:They are giant babies. 
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:27
|
|
|
Since when did this thread go from "swing states only matter" to "she's up two in the national polls everything is fine"? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:27
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:Since when did this thread go from "swing states only matter" to "she's up two in the national polls everything is fine"? POST A MAP
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:28
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:EDIT: His campaign just released a statement saying Obama was born in the US. Now watch as the press gives him credit and he continues to rise in the polls. His surrogates have been saying it for a while now. No one is going to believe it until he himself actually says it.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:28
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:Since when did this thread go from "swing states only matter" to "she's up two in the national polls everything is fine"?
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:28
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:Since when did this thread go from "swing states only matter" to "she's up two in the national polls everything is fine"? perhaps you can challenge Fishmech to become America's Smartest Boy
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:28
|
|
|
I want Trump to have enough imaginary "momentum" that he and everyone around him actually thinks he's going to win going into election day. I want another Fox News meltdown.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:30
|
|
|
dont quote marmalade
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:31
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:Jesus. The shifting goalposts are real. Hillary is not losing. In fact she has been winning for 450 of the 457 total days that Trump has officially been running for president. I know you like to pretend that Clinton is losing and we're all doomed, but it would be nice if you held off on yelling about the wolf until the wolf was actually here. I can't even remember if you remembered to cry wolf on the few days that it was actually "warranted". 
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:31
|
|
|
I will say that it does 'feel' like Trump's winning because a moderate unlikelihood that one of the most terrible people alive being president feels like a loss. Where the polls are at currently, it feels like we're on the second Russian Roulette spin. He is, however, not ahead by any reliable metric.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:31
|
|
|
 "Comeback Clinton" Phayray fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Sep 16, 2016 |
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:32
|
|
|
Gyges posted:I know this is probably the most pointless post I've ever made, which is impressive, but I shall respond to you. More then anything else this election and this thread is making me realize people have no idea we aren't a direct democracy. Or how the Electoral College works.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:33
|
|
|
Rookersh posted:More then anything else this election and this thread is making me realize people have no idea we aren't a direct democracy. Or how the Electoral College works.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:35
|
|
|
Rookersh posted:More then anything else this election and this thread is making me realize people have no idea we aren't a direct democracy. Or how the Electoral College works. Donald Trump is winning in neither the nationwide popular "election" nor in the actual Electoral College system. He has not been, and it's really unlikely that he will in the future. Though I guess one could argue that we'll have a whole boatload of faithless electors who happen to get a trip on Trump Cruise Line on November 10th.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:38
|
|
|
Phayray posted:
It was Clinton they wanted to write the comeback narrative about all along 
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:38
|
|
|
Nessus posted:since you just so happened to powerfully own us with the blinding radiance of your superior intellect Fishmech can actually debate. Celestial just says Hillary is doomed.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:38
|
|
|
Phayray posted:
The pivot!!!!!
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:38
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:39
|
|
|
Gyges posted:I know you like to pretend that Clinton is losing and we're all doomed, but it would be nice if you held off on yelling about the wolf until the wolf was actually here. Phayray posted:
It's BBC so hard to feel like CNN will go HMM THOSE BRITISH CHAPS HAVE SOMETHING. But if the media finally goes "okay well enough of that, time to make sure the country doesn't devolve into a tire fire (that hurts our bottom lines)" then I would like it very much.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 13, 2024 15:38 |
|
|
Haha, they really can't let it go, can they? It would be such a powerful move, the ultimate pivot, yet they still really can't.
|
|
#
?
Sep 16, 2016 03:41
|
|
