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Troy Queef posted:The great Youtube channel Regular Car Reviews has done more than a few reviews of bad '80s/'90s American cars, and here's some people here might be interested in: That cavalier video was spot on my high school experience right down to the trunk subs 
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What companies still exist, but more or less as a shell of their former selves or in just name only? I saw some Altec Lansing stuff in a store recently and remembered that I thought they used to be a fairly big, respectable PC audio brand about 15 years ago, but looking at their wiki it seems like they've changed hands a few times and been sold to various companies for relatively little money.
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Sep 16, 2016 19:46
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my porsche and mercedes run perfectly and have no issues
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Waroduce posted:I went to UMiami and have never heard that expression before. I dont think UM pretends to be anything but a rich party school that used to be good at football hey, they're going to be good again now that they've hired Richt
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Sep 16, 2016 20:43
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Waroduce posted:I went to UMiami and have never heard that expression before. I dont think UM pretends to be anything but a rich party school that used to be good at football
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JediTalentAgent posted:What companies still exist, but more or less as a shell of their former selves or in just name only? Motorola. loving Google.
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Sep 16, 2016 21:06
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Krispy Kareem posted:Motorola.
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Sep 16, 2016 21:07
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Saitek once circling the drain is given new life by Logitech.
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Troy Queef posted:Chevy Cavalier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAKdyOUas8k I drive one of these, an '03 model. I think that's one of the last years they made them. The interior is cheap as gently caress (like, it's really lovely omg what how is it this bad) but it has been incredibly reliable and a huge upgrade over what I drove before - an '89 Mercury Tracer that I had for 14 years and was rotting from the inside out. I put a lot of work into it in '11 and '12 to keep it running but it needed a new gas tank and they told me I'd have to find one in a junkyard because Ford didn't make them anymore so I said gently caress it. The exterior design of that '96 looks exactly like my car, and it's 7 years older. I find that kind of disturbing. Way to iterate on design, GM. Ryoshi posted:I think the Saturn died because it just wasn't very good and people were already trying to strap poo poo to their Genesises like Sega CD and the 32x, then Sega came out with the Saturn and people were like 'what the gently caress is this poo poo i'm going to buy a Playstation'. Classic market oversaturation. This is a great joke post, and I completely agree with the idea presented in it, except for the system itself - the JP library is full of incredible arcade ports and actually it was Sega's first successful console to date in that region (the SG-1000, Mark III, Game Gear, and Mega Drive+addons were not popular). Western gamers don't care about arcade stuff and both NA/EU Sega and Sony were against 2D releases so yeah. Also, it launched 5 months early out of nowhere, pissing off retailers, and PS1 was 100 bucks cheaper. Ofecks has a new favorite as of 21:46 on Sep 16, 2016 |
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Sep 16, 2016 21:14
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Jack Trades posted:Something Awful LLC  lol
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Sep 16, 2016 21:49
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Y-Hat posted:I think Tulane is known as the Harvard of the South. it's one of the most expensive private schools in the country
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Sep 16, 2016 21:50
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The other problem with Saturn is that they came out with a decent car, the SC\SL, then did very little with it for eleven goddamn years. A half-assed facelift and a few more horsepower for the underpowered, vibratory base motor was about it. You can't compete with the Japanese automakers without redesigning your vehicle at least every five years. Plus, and I'm speaking as a professional mechanic here, they really weren't that good. The base engine had a terrible problem with the head cracking between the oil galley and the water jackets; GM eventually agreed to pay for the $1500-$2K repair after like eight years , but most people either sold or junked their hosed-up cars by then. The oil control rings wouldn't seal right due to carbon buildup if you drove them gently, then they'd burn oil perpetually, although it didn't really affect anything -if- you checked your oil often. And everybody does that, right? The Saturn-only automatic tranny suffered from valve-body warpage that would start with a delay going into Reverse and eventually gently caress the whole trans if it wasn't fixed. And few people caught it in time. You can't be competitive in 2000 with a vehicle that was kinda sorta almost as good as a 1991 Corolla. And everything else Saturn sold were either badge-engineered poo poo from GM or weird Eurocars that didn't fit the US demand. Well, I take that back, the Sky was cool, for all fifteen seconds they made it. JnnyThndrs has a new favorite as of 22:17 on Sep 16, 2016 |
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Sep 16, 2016 22:11
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The Sky was just a badge-engineered Pontiac Solstice, anyway. I cannot think of another car manufacturer that is as outright boring and bland as GM. Apparently their new cars are pretty decent but I would never, ever buy one after the ignition switch debacle. I did have a 1998 Cavalier that I walked away from following a rollover accident at 60 MPH (sideswiped by a tractor trailer). No complaints about that.
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Sep 16, 2016 23:15
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Ofecks posted:I drive one of these, an '03 model. I think that's one of the last years they made them. The interior is cheap as gently caress (like, it's really lovely omg what how is it this bad) but it has been incredibly reliable and a huge upgrade over what I drove before - an '89 Mercury Tracer that I had for 14 years and was rotting from the inside out. I put a lot of work into it in '11 and '12 to keep it running but it needed a new gas tank and they told me I'd have to find one in a junkyard because Ford didn't make them anymore so I said gently caress it. The exterior design of that '96 looks exactly like my car, and it's 7 years older. I find that kind of disturbing. Way to iterate on design, GM. I had an '02 which left me stranded after the front subframe collapsed while I was slowing down at a tollbooth. The piece of junk was completely rotted and it wasn't even 10 years old. That thing was just unpleasant to be in. Between the road and wind noise at highway speeds you needed the radio cranked to 3/4 just to hear it over everything else and it started feeling a bit janky at any speeds over 65mph. Not shaking or anything dangerous, you were just very aware of how fast you were going because the car didn't really feel like it was meant to cruise at higher speeds.
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Sep 17, 2016 00:07
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JediTalentAgent posted:What companies still exist, but more or less as a shell of their former selves or in just name only? They were the gold standard in the 70s for home audio speakers; the Model 19s in particular were almost universally lusted after and out of reach for most, like Leica in the camera world. I don't know the history, but I suspect this was yet another once mighty name licensed/sold to the highest bidder and there was little to no actual lineage between them. It might have been brought up in these very pages, but I believe Koss is the lone exception to this, as they never really went away and continue to produce headphones from throwaways right up to heirloom priced audiophile sets.
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My dad is an Indiana motorhead and was a Chevy dude to the bone. He bought a 1968 Camaro Z28 brand new the year it came out and loved it. He ordered a Blazer directly from the factory in the 70s exactly the way he wanted it and it was such a piece of poo poo he swore off Chevy forever and spent the next 30 years driving Volkswagens and Subarus.
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Citizen Tayne posted:The Sky was just a badge-engineered Pontiac Solstice, anyway. BUT THEIR TRUCKS ARE MADE OF FREEDOM AND COLD ROLLED STEEL LIKE SUBMARINES
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Sep 17, 2016 01:37
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Citizen Tayne posted:I cannot think of another car manufacturer that is as outright boring and bland as GM. Apparently their new cars are pretty decent but I would never, ever buy one after the ignition switch debacle. Toyota in the period between axing the MR2 Spyder and introducing the GT86. They still made reliable cars, but they were all 'appliance cars'.
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Thank you to whoever posted the regular car reviews, I have spent most of my free time in the past 24 hours watching them.natetimm posted:My dad is an Indiana motorhead and was a Chevy dude to the bone. He bought a 1968 Camaro Z28 brand new the year it came out and loved it. He ordered a Blazer directly from the factory in the 70s exactly the way he wanted it and it was such a piece of poo poo he swore off Chevy forever and spent the next 30 years driving Volkswagens and Subarus.
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Sep 17, 2016 01:53
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Can we talk about my SUV and correlating small penis more? I'm kinda soft.
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two forty posted:Thank you to whoever posted the regular car reviews, I have spent most of my free time in the past 24 hours watching them. The issues on the Blazer were less workmanship and more quality of materials. Everything loving broke on that thing within 5 years of buying it and it spent the next 30 in the garage as his pipe dream retirement project until he finally sold it to the scrap yard. He couldn't believe what a dip in quality there had been in 10 years. He did buy a Plymouth Grand Voyager in 1990 that I drove until it died, but we had at least 10 other cars that were either VWs or Subarus.
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Cubey posted:Toyota in the period between axing the MR2 Spyder and introducing the GT86. They still made reliable cars, but they were all 'appliance cars'. There's nothing wrong with an appliance car, I had a 2002 Corolla and it was actually a shittier driving experience than my 1998 Cavalier. It was still a better car at the end of the day. I'm not a fan of companies that are okay with murdering their customers in return for saving eighteen cents a unit.
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Sep 17, 2016 02:12
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sharknado slashfic posted:That cavalier video was spot on my high school experience right down to the trunk subs Yep, the only difference for me was I had a Kenwood stereo with detach face and faux leather zipper case, not a Pioneer. Everything else was describing my high school life in 1996 in detail right down to the Swisher Sweets and late nights at the donut shop.
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Sep 17, 2016 02:13
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(Yes, the 1998 Cavalier was literally a better driving experience than a 2002 Corolla. The Cavalier felt like a car. The Corolla felt like I was driving a lawnmower with a windshield.)
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Citizen Tayne posted:There's nothing wrong with an appliance car, I had a 2002 Corolla and it was actually a shittier driving experience than my 1998 Cavalier. It was still a better car at the end of the day. There's nothing wrong with appliance cars, but when that's all you make it becomes extremely boring. Especially for Toyota, a company who initially got its foot in the door in the US by selling cheap, sporty things.
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Cubey posted:There's nothing wrong with appliance cars, but when that's all you make it becomes extremely boring. Especially for Toyota, a company who initially got its foot in the door in the US by selling cheap, sporty things. Toyota USA divorced their sporty cars and put them into Lexus.
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Lexus is a luxury brand, not a sporty brand. The closest Lexus ever came to putting out an actual sports car was the SC 430, notable for being the worst thing to ever come out of Toyota.
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Citizen Tayne posted:Toyota USA divorced their sporty cars and put them into Lexus. And the Suv division namely 4Runner
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Sep 17, 2016 02:24
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Toyota got popular making cheap, reliable cars that got good mileage, other than the MR2, 'sporty' wasn't really Toyota's forte. Even the horribly overrated OG AE86 isn't that sporty until you dump a bunch of money into it. I mean...1977 Celicas with 18R motors making 80hp might have felt 'sporty' compared to 5000lb T-birds with 160hp 400M engines, but that's about it. Toyota's always made appliance cars, they're good at it, but they seem even less interested in making interesting cars than they used to be.
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Toyotas have been appliance cars since day one, a tarted-up Corolla sold as a Celica or whatever isn't really what made their name, it was the fact that you could buy a Toyota, drive it for 100k miles, and it still didn't have one foot in the junkyard. Or you could get easy 15% terms on a 1982 Starlet because you need to have a new car. Sure they've always made vaguely-but-not-quite-halo cars, but their bread and butter for a long time was a stripper corolla with a stick shift.
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Cubey posted:Lexus is a luxury brand, not a sporty brand. The closest Lexus ever came to putting out an actual sports car was the SC 430, notable for being the worst thing to ever come out of Toyota. They also made the LFA which was an amazing piece of machinery and could hold it's against European supercars. Lexus engineers can definitely work magic when management lets them up for air. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4OfY9EYuUg
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JnnyThndrs posted:Toyota got popular making cheap, reliable cars that got good mileage, other than the MR2, 'sporty' wasn't really Toyota's forte. Even the horribly overrated OG AE86 isn't that sporty until you dump a bunch of money into it. The Celica was a sports car from day one, and a very successful one up until the half-assed shitbox that was the final generation. And don't forget about the Supra, though that didn't sell anywhere near the numbers that the Celica and MR2 did as it was a good deal pricier.
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I love that Roadmaster and everything that guy did to it.
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The_Franz posted:I had an '02 which left me stranded after the front subframe collapsed while I was slowing down at a tollbooth. The piece of junk was completely rotted and it wasn't even 10 years old. That thing was just unpleasant to be in. Between the road and wind noise at highway speeds you needed the radio cranked to 3/4 just to hear it over everything else and it started feeling a bit janky at any speeds over 65mph. Not shaking or anything dangerous, you were just very aware of how fast you were going because the car didn't really feel like it was meant to cruise at higher speeds. Hm, that's unfortunate. I should probably disclaim that mine has rather low mileage for its age. I'll confirm the highway noise, it's annoying, but it otherwise feels fine at high speeds. Sometimes something whistles/whines if I push it over 80, probably an airflow thing somewhere.
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Cubey posted:Lexus is a luxury brand, not a sporty brand. The closest Lexus ever came to putting out an actual sports car was the SC 430, notable for being the worst thing to ever come out of Toyota. Sporty is luxury. It's way too late tonight for me to dig up examples, but Lexus wanted to confuse BMW (sporty) with Mercedes (comfortable) and tried to do both. They succeeded, as we can see today.
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two forty posted:Thank you to whoever posted the regular car reviews, I have spent most of my free time in the past 24 hours watching them. cheers. here's some other of his Greatest Hits: BMW E30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSgZGOCyYcY The Mini: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C52pizDWow JDM Honda Kei van: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL_T4Lr0uu8 Mazda RX-7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkJYnxFYJQ
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The_Franz posted:I had an '02 which left me stranded after the front subframe collapsed while I was slowing down at a tollbooth. The piece of junk was completely rotted and it wasn't even 10 years old. That thing was just unpleasant to be in. Between the road and wind noise at highway speeds you needed the radio cranked to 3/4 just to hear it over everything else and it started feeling a bit janky at any speeds over 65mph. Not shaking or anything dangerous, you were just very aware of how fast you were going because the car didn't really feel like it was meant to cruise at higher speeds. Sounds like you didn't keep up on maintenance. My Cavalier was incredibly reliable, and when it got ran over by a truck it died respectably and left me in good shape.
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*dumb rear end in a top hat buys 10 year old car for $500 and then is shocked when it falls apart* "$car sucks!"
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Cubey posted:The Celica was a sports car from day one, and a very successful one up until the half-assed shitbox that was the final generation. And don't forget about the Supra, though that didn't sell anywhere near the numbers that the Celica and MR2 did as it was a good deal pricier. I dunno about 'day one', there was nothing sporty but the ads when talking about early Celicas. The '82-86 GT-S was the first remotely sporty Celica, and the Supra is cool but more of a GT than a sports car due to its size and weight. I remember being at an autocross in ~1987 and a guy almost punched the announcer in the face 'cause he, over the PA, said the guy's Celica had a 'forklift motor'. Announcer was right, though, 18/20/22R's are wonderfully reliable and about as sporty as those tractor motors w/SU carbs that MG used to make. Back in the day the guys with Celicas and money would import Japanese 2T-G motors, and those ran pretty well.
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Toyota has always bland-but-reliable cars. It became especially obvious between '98 and 2012 - you can still buy a 99 Camry with 220k on the odometer that will go for another few years, but it's going to be a banal loving car to drive. And that's usually alright, since most people just want transportation above a fun car to drive. What sucks is when Toyota makes a great sports car like the FR-S/GT86 and it sells like shiiiiiit. They made a sports coupe that handled like a dream and people still poo poo on it for being "underpowered". And while I think another 30 or 40hp would have made it a bit more fun, people just don't know how to drive it - you have to wring the piss out of it; the engine is happiest and most fun when it's at 4-5k RPM. The gearing makes it obvious but still people couldn't fathom that, and so they derided it.
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