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a dog from hell posted:Maybe Tyrell has been hiding in the Washington township? Him being in Scott Knowle's apartment doesn't make sense at this point and would be boring.
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Yeah, the idea is maybe Knowles is either loving with Joanna as revenge and/or trying to get something incriminating or hinting at Tyrell's possible whereabouts from her.
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a dog from hell posted:Tyrell has been hiding somewhere off the grid that pertains to Stage 2, of that much I am certain. Quite literally if it is a simulation, and he is a user of the simulation.
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Sep 18, 2016 10:18
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DaveKap posted:I know you're kinda joking but, just in case the clarification is needed, at no point should anyone have seriously suggested that Tyrell was literally at Scott Knowle's place. The phone traced there but that does not equate to Tyrell being there. I rewatched the episode and I noticed that the bodyguard does specifically say, "No way he's in THAT house." So I don't think my theory carries water as far as the phone calls go. I still don't think Knowles is a player, or rather I hope he's not. A lot of time has been spent building this mystery.
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Sep 18, 2016 17:44
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We haven't seen Knowles since the beginning of this season, I wouldn't be surprised if he is dead by now (killed by Tyrell)
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Sep 18, 2016 17:47
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New theory: Elliot did kill Tyrell, and that's why he's seeing him now. I don't want it to be true and don't think it is, though.
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I'm rewatching season 2 with my wife to get her caught up for the finale. A lot of things make way more sense during the rewatch. The first half of the season is easy to understand, and Elliot's weird haywire with Mr Robot in Init_5 makes sense as him developing the ability to observe his alternate personality without being noticed. There are a lot of other really small details that jump out.
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precision posted:New theory: Elliot did kill Tyrell, and that's why he's seeing him now. I thought of that too, is the only way for Tyrrell to be in his mind without turning the whole 1st season into nonsense Elliot killed Tyrrell and then he snapped and split again into a third personality I don't want it to be true but it is possible edit: there are 2 problems with this theory though: 1- it does not explains the gifts or the calls 2- it does not explains the message mr robot got Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Sep 18, 2016 |
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Sep 18, 2016 18:01
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precision posted:New theory: Elliot did kill Tyrell, and that's why he's seeing him now. I like when both possibilities are pretty much equally likely, they could have really gone in either direction and still made a good show, which makes the eventual reveal, or the moments where we're questioning it, all the less predictable and more interesting. It's like when Game of Thrones has two cool interesting characters fight to the death, you don't want either of them to die but you know one will, though they kinda hosed that up later on.
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The show has explicitly given signals for Tyrell being dead and alive simultaneously and it is pretty clever. I find it a little concerning that it is so difficult to tell what is going on in the penultimate episode but if next week delivers then I will be pleased. Another note: the phone calls were traced to a house. Knowles lived in an apartment.
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Sep 18, 2016 18:29
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The best thing about the show is that our confusion often mirrors Elliott's confusion.
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If the show ended with the true reality of the world being completely unknowable, I'd be fine with that, it'd probably be pretty cool.
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a dog from hell posted:The show has explicitly given signals for Tyrell being dead and alive simultaneously and it is pretty clever. I find it a little concerning that it is so difficult to tell what is going on in the penultimate episode but if next week delivers then I will be pleased. Manhattan and the upper east side is not a place that has 'houses'. edit: except for the Schinasi mansion if you want to be pedantic kill me now fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Sep 18, 2016 |
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I seriously doubt that Tyrell is alive. How could he have remained hidden for so long, with the whole world(including ecorp) looking for him? And then he just walks around in a business suit and gets into a taxi? Also, regarding all the robot theories: Tyrell Corporation was the name of the replicant company in Blade Runner. 
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waitwhatno posted:I seriously doubt that Tyrell is alive. How could he have remained hidden for so long, with the whole world(including ecorp) looking for him? And then he just walks around in a business suit and gets into a taxi? Dark Army is pretty reliable.
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Megaspel posted:If the show ended with the true reality of the world being completely unknowable, I'd be fine with that, it'd probably be pretty cool.
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Loved the Friends reference again; *clapclapclapclap* Another Lolita ref;  And the poster we all love. [no, not three olives;]    24/7 gurl, clack.
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Sep 19, 2016 00:32
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Yes, it sounded to me like Christian Slater as well.
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I think I heard a woman's voice as well.
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I think that's just from the two voices plus some audio effects applied over it.
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I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone talk about the Maniac Mansion reference during the commodore loading scene yet.DaveKap posted:It's statements like this that make writers think they can get away with remaking Lost. Please, no. I don't mean bullshit like 'it's actually all a dream/purgatory/fart space', but rather there being multiple, but well developed and thought out possibilities, each one interesting. Like how it's still interesting whether or not Tyrell is alive, either possibilities are interesting.
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He was up against some real heavy hitters so that's even more impressive.
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waitwhatno posted:I seriously doubt that Tyrell is alive. How could he have remained hidden for so long, with the whole world(including ecorp) looking for him? And then he just walks around in a business suit and gets into a taxi? Obviously, the brownouts are triggered so Tyrell can move around stealthily.
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nopants posted:Obviously, the brownouts are triggered so Tyrell can move around stealthily. I've got a blob on my phone screen and read this as "browncoats are triggered" and I was trying to figure out how the whole situation was upsetting the Firefly nerds.
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https://vine.co/v/5nM6aHvjxOJ Clever
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Ultimate troll would have been to have his twin brother go up first, then interrupt him halfway through the speech. Super glad he got the award though!
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Is there QRcode (or barcode) is while Angela is walking through the house? There are a lot of black and white squares and lines.
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Collateral posted:Is there QRcode (or barcode) is while Angela is walking through the house? There are a lot of black and white squares and lines. No, I only noticed the squares over people's faces as she walked by all the family photos. I'm assuming those are families affected by what E-Corp did all those years ago.
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Max posted:No, I only noticed the squares over people's faces as she walked by all the family photos. I'm assuming those are families affected by what E-Corp did all those years ago. Those are coloured squares. This is before, in the sitting room (pictures, pillows and the carpet) and the kitchen (circular tins on the cupboard top).
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counterfeitsaint posted:Elliot makes a big deal about asking if the driver can see Tyrell, but Tyrell gets in the cab and gives him directions and he responds and starts driving, so obviously he can see someone sitting there giving him directions. Wasn't the cabbie just sitting there waiting for a destination from Elliot until Tyrell got in?
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Max posted:No, I only noticed the squares over people's faces as she walked by all the family photos. I'm assuming those are families affected by what E-Corp did all those years ago. My assumption was that they were pictures of the people who actually lived in that house normally when the DA isn't using it.
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muscles like this? posted:My assumption was that they were pictures of the people who actually lived in that house normally when the DA isn't using it. They were all in a line right in front of the test room, which is a little strange for family pictures. You'd expect them to be spread out all over the house.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Wasn't the cabbie just sitting there waiting for a destination from Elliot until Tyrell got in? Yes. In the context of this show though, it is not a good/definitive clue since if Tyrell is a split from Elliot then the visualization could still allow for the cabbie response (as we have seen from Mr Robot/Elliot interaction in the past).
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Dante80 posted:Yes. In the context of this show though, it is not a good/definitive clue since if Tyrell is a split from Elliot then the visualization could still allow for the cabbie response (as we have seen from Mr Robot/Elliot interaction in the past). Cabbie asked Elliot where to before Tyrell even got in, so good evidence for them being the same person but not definitive proof. Also here's a translation from Reddit on what the cabbie says: What made me agree to this.." "Get in the car or don't, doesn't matter." "Hurry the hell up." "I don't have all day, are you gonna tell me or not?" "..He's blown a fuse." (Which in Egyptian means going crazy, not angry) "Shut the gently caress up!" "Unbelievable!" "Shut the gently caress up, you're driving me insane!" "gently caress you!" Going with Elliot=Tyrell plus some extra thing like they did with the MR Robot/sister reveal in the first season. Hopefully the Bladerunner and Back to the Future nods will turn into something but who knows.
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There's no Tyrrell = elliot reveal. If anything the reveal would be that Tyrrell is dead and elliot is just seeing him now. For Tyrrell to have always been elliot makes no sense.
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