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d0grent posted:There's no Tyrrell = elliot reveal. If anything the reveal would be that Tyrrell is dead and elliot is just seeing him now. For Tyrrell to have always been elliot makes no sense. I agree But that would be a boring and predictable reveal, so I dont think it is. I think Tyrell was really alive all this time, and the real reveal is what happened that night between him and Elliot and what phase 2 is
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The thing they need to address is that the bullet that was in the popcorn machine was fired, since the shell was found there by the police. I'm really hoping we find out on Wednesday, because not revealing that event after a whole other season has gone by would be . . . risky.
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magiccarpet posted:We have two red rotary phones now, right?
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Max posted:The thing they need to address is that the bullet that was in the popcorn machine was fired, since the shell was found there by the police. I'm really hoping we find out on Wednesday, because not revealing that event after a whole other season has gone by would be . . . risky. Im pretty sure that we are going to have a flashback of that night in the finale
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Ersatz posted:Those are actually consistent with "red machines" in China; red rotary phones that connect/are provided to elite members of the party (in both government and industry). If we're all going down the timetravel/alt reality hole, I'm starting to think the red phones are a way to communicate between the two. Since both phones have appeared in 'dream states' (mental institution, the fish room) these could be projections of the ability to communicate. I am getting a strong vibe that Elliot can see and interact with people from both realities at the same time, and Angela as well after whatever Whiterose was alluding to. Washington Township is going to be the energy plant from Stranger Things 
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Sep 19, 2016 21:24
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I managed to catch up on the 2nd season this weekend. Holy poo poo is this show awesome and Rami winning an Emmy is so great. Truly deserves is with this season.
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magiccarpet posted:If we're all going down the timetravel/alt reality hole, I'm starting to think the red phones are a way to communicate between the two. Since both phones have appeared in 'dream states' (mental institution, the fish room) these could be projections of the ability to communicate. I am getting a strong vibe that Elliot can see and interact with people from both realities at the same time, and Angela as well after whatever Whiterose was alluding to.
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Ersatz posted:The pseudo-realism of the show has been fun, but at this point I think I'm down for some magical realism by way of White Rose. Might as well just go all the way down the rabbit hole. I was recently rewatching S2E05, particularly the scene with Whiterose (as Minister Zhang) and Dom. One bit of dialog from Zhang particularly stood out Minister Zhang posted:Let me ask, Ms. DiPierro - have you ever wondered how the world would look if the 5/9 hack never happened? How the world would look right now? In fact, some believe there are alternate realities playing out that very scenario. With other lives that we're leading, other people that we've become. The contemplation moves me very deeply. Not exactly earth shattering, but it's more fuel for the alternate reality fire.
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gonger posted:I was recently rewatching S2E05, particularly the scene with Whiterose (as Minister Zhang) and Dom. One bit of dialog from Zhang particularly stood out
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Max posted:Ultimate troll would have been to have his twin brother go up first, then interrupt him halfway through the speech. Super glad he got the award though! Should've had Christian Slater accept the award on his behalf, while Rami Malek just stared at him confused.
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sticklefifer posted:Should've had Christian Slater accept the award on his behalf, while Rami Malek just stared at him confused. oh my god that would have been so perfect
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gonger posted:I was recently rewatching S2E05, particularly the scene with Whiterose (as Minister Zhang) and Dom. One bit of dialog from Zhang particularly stood out What is kinda earth shattering is that Elliot talks to them
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Digital Jedi posted:I managed to catch up on the 2nd season this weekend.
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sticklefifer posted:Should've had Christian Slater accept the award on his behalf, while Rami Malek just stared at him confused. god dammit
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sticklefifer posted:Should've had Christian Slater accept the award on his behalf, while Rami Malek just stared at him confused. Pretty sure this would have won the Emmys a Golden Globe for best comedy performance.
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Tyrell = Elliot theory: Why would Joanna's lackey sit there while he tried to ping the cell phone and then tell him Wellick wouldn't be in that house.
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i hope there's an alternate world where elliot does apologise to the guy with the instagram full of his cats
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Maleks twin brother really doesn't look like him. He's kind of heavy set and he's super skinny.
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Ersatz posted:Yeah - I actually had that dialog in mind when I wrote my post. At a minimum, I think we're getting something like White Rose using super computing to determine possible outcomese of choices, and then steering events to maximize favorable outcomes based on the predictions. This would also fit with the BTTF2 references; Biff had access to an almanac from the future and used that information to gain power.
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Bitter Mushroom posted:when a record skips I too believe i've travelled in time Well to be fair, you have.
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Where is their any evidence for time travel at all other than the Bttf references. The blackouts aren't evidence of that as time is pausing if anything not jumping to another point in time. Would also be very not in keeping with the plot so far, with its theme focusing on what/who is real and what isn't.
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Sep 20, 2016 11:06
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I liked whoever's theory it was that the lucid dream Elliot is experiencing is actually the 3 days we missed
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ukle posted:Where is their any evidence for time travel at all other than the Bttf references. The blackouts aren't evidence of that as time is pausing if anything not jumping to another point in time. the news report skip
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Social Animal posted:Can someone explain to me what actually happened when Elliot received the call from Tyrell in prison? Ages ago, but S1 was airing on Swiss TV last night. As it's dubbed in French he says this in Italian for the french dub. I totally forgot he originally says it in french 
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magiccarpet posted:the news report skip
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I want the finale to air just so that we can stop talking about alternate realities.
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Skizzzer posted:I want the finale to air just so that we can stop talking about alternate realities. Tyrell is both alive and dead until we observe the episode.
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magiccarpet posted:the news report skip This can equally be nothing though, a lot of TVs and on-demand services or such can skip like this when resumed.
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Sep 20, 2016 16:43
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I wonder what it's like to be Tyrell's actor and know you're a credited regular but you only have a handful of scenes throughout the whole season.
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Mr. Powers posted:Tyrell is both alive and dead until we observe the episode. 
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Mr. Powers posted:Tyrell is both alive and dead until we observe the episode. Schroedinger's sociopath
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I hope the finale is Elliot staring at a box for an hour and Tyrrell jumps out in the last few seconds.
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hope and vaseline posted:I wonder what it's like to be Tyrell's actor and know you're a credited regular but you only have a handful of scenes throughout the whole season. I've read that tv serials where creators don't want their actors to know if they'll be killed or not, will end up paying every main actor a base pay, no mater how many episodes they appear in or when they die in the season. So if someone bites it in episode 2, they won't be privy to it until the moment they start shooting that episode, since as far as they know they are paid through the whole season. They did this on Breaking Bad and the Sopranos. I imagine they did it here as well. Though Tyrell is a different situation.
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Phase 1: The seed is planted when opposites attract. Can you dig it? It takes the physical to create the physical. Phase 2: The flower blossoms through what seems to be a concrete surface. I.E. greed, racism, insanity, physical, and social handicaps. These are the things that mold the flower. Red rose or black rose, no in between. Phase 3: The judgement. If it were to fall upon you today, which flower would you be? The red rose, or the black? This is the warning.
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Doctor Butts posted:Phase 1:
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kill me now posted:Manhattan and the upper east side is not a place that has 'houses'. The UES has plenty of townhouses though?
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theflyingexecutive posted:The UES has plenty of townhouses though? Right and unless I'm way off they showed Knowles living in a townhouse which was referenced as an "apartment" by the poster i quoted.
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