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Covok posted:Destroy the Force = Ending all life in the universe I don't think it is. That's why she's in conflict with Nihilus. She wants to do to all force users what happened to the exile.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I don't think it is. That's why she's in conflict with Nihilus. She wants to do to all force users what happened to the exile. Last I checked, everything alive is part of the Living Force in Star Wars. So, if all living creatures are a part of, destroying it would require killing them, no? Also, while it did come out later, I think I remember the Clone Wars TV series saying that the Cosmic Force and Living Force are in a cycle of exchange and, without it, life can't be created, but it's been a while since I've seen those episode. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if this has to do with different interpretations on how the Force works. IIRC, the nature of the force and how it manifests would often get wonky from writer to writer. The only consistent think being elements introduced in the actual films, for obvious reasons. Hell, remember the Yuuzhan Vong being absent from the force? I'm still not sure how that was justified. Also, going back to grey jedi for a second, had a shower thought that the Imperial Knights from Legacy are the polar opposite of the Je'daii and the Bendu. The former literally tries to avoid using any side of the force too greatly but favors the light a tad and the later tries to use the entire force but in balance with both sides.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 03:46 |
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The Force works the way you want it to work.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 05:14 |
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Doctor Reynolds posted:The Force works the way you want it to work. Not according to Han Solo it doesn't
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 05:19 |
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Covok posted:Last I checked, everything alive is part of the Living Force in Star Wars. So, if all living creatures are a part of, destroying it would require killing them, no? Also, while it did come out later, I think I remember the Clone Wars TV series saying that the Cosmic Force and Living Force are in a cycle of exchange and, without it, life can't be created, but it's been a while since I've seen those episode. The exile wasn't a part of the force and they survived. iirc the plan was to create a huge amount of devastation and cause force echoes that would either kill those who were entirely dependent on the force and couldn't/wouldn't turn away from it, or blind people to the force. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Sep 18, 2016 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:The exile wasn't a part of the force and they survived. How were they not part of the force? Don't you play a Jedi in that game? Also, I guess any explanation is equally valid on how to remove the force from the universe since, you know, fictional universe, but I do wonder what Keria thought she'd get from it. I guess it has to do with EU logic vs Cannon logic, though. Or Old EU, I should say. Like, recently, I've been re-reading Star Wars: Legacy and, holy poo poo, did I forgot how over the top the comics made the Force at times: immortal sith mage surviving in an amulet and able to make zombies with magic, for example. Like, if that is what the Force does, then, yeah, getting rid of it can seem necessary for sure. Edit: By the way, since I brought them up, we kind of dodged the bullet with the Yuuzhan Vong in Clone Wars, I found out yesterday. They were going to show up in that show, but the episode never materialized. If it did, they would have been locked in as canon and, well, yeah... Covok fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Sep 18, 2016 |
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Covok posted:How were they not part of the force? Don't you play a Jedi in that game? Also, I guess any explanation is equally valid on how to remove the force from the universe since, you know, fictional universe, but I do wonder what Keria thought she'd get from it. They were a wound that was only able to use the force through stealing it from other force sensitives, and I think specifically because of the bond with Kreia. And Kreia wanted an end to the galactic wars that rose up every couple of decades because some jedi fell to the dark side.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 06:28 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:They were a wound that was only able to use the force through stealing it from other force sensitives, and I think specifically because of the bond with Kreia. Huh, that's an interesting plot point. And, yeah, I can see that since that was a really common plot point in the EU. Less an exception and more than rule in the EU that some Jedi turning Sith would disrupt the entire galaxy.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 06:33 |
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Rewatching season 2 to get myself properly amped up for Saturday. Goddamn, Siege of Lothal is great. This is also just one of the best fuckin' shots in recent Star Wars fiction, hope something this season can match it.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 02:42 |
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Kreia was sick and tired of the "Sith keep turning into cackling cartoon villains" thing so wanted to SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING. Maul is kinda in the same place at this point, but has decided on a slightly less nihilistic path.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 03:04 |
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TheCenturion posted:Kreia was sick and tired of the "Sith keep turning into cackling cartoon villains" thing so wanted to SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING. ??? Maul specifically wants to murder the top dogs and get revenge so he can be the top dog. They're not even close?
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 06:27 |
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kingcom posted:??? Maul specifically wants to murder the top dogs and get revenge so he can be the top dog. They're not even close? Kreia wants to raze it all the the ground. Maul wants to prove to his abusive father figure Palplatine that he isn't a failure, and finally get that pat on the head he's wanted since he was a starving child that Palp took in after he killed another street kid for a scrap of food or something.
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drunkill posted:Well there is a new trilogy of Thrawn books that Zahn is currently writing, so no doubt they sat down and talked about everything in great detail before he was added to Rebels. Pretty sure it's just one book, not a new trilogy. The link you posted backs that up, it only talks about the one book, Thrawn, and how it will span several years, from his first encounter with the Empire to the events of Rebels.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 13:29 |
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thrawn527 posted:Pretty sure it's just one book, not a new trilogy. The link you posted backs that up, it only talks about the one book, Thrawn, and how it will span several years, from his first encounter with the Empire to the events of Rebels. I hope it's artfully done.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 13:44 |
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TheCenturion posted:Kreia wants to raze it all the the ground. Maul wants to prove to his abusive father figure Palplatine that he isn't a failure, and finally get that pat on the head he's wanted since he was a starving child that Palp took in after he killed another street kid for a scrap of food or something. At this point I don't think he wants the old man's approval. Sheev has taken away everything Maul has ever had including His life before Maul, whatever that was His apprenticeship and the secrets of the Sith. Destroyed his criminal empire. Killed his brother. Killed his mother Hunted him for the last 15+ years. All he wants is survival, power, and revenge.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 14:02 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:At this point I don't think he wants the old man's approval. Sheev has taken away everything Maul has ever had including Don't forget giving him a giant robo-worm spider body thing. Or was that someone else?
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 16:18 |
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He did that himself
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 18:06 |
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And sure Obi-wan cut him in half, but he already got that particular revenge.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 20:14 |
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I hope we see his severed bottom half show up as a sith lord this season.
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# ? Sep 20, 2016 07:48 |
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kingcom posted:I hope we see his severed bottom half show up as a sith lord this season. Well it is chock-full of midichlorians
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# ? Sep 20, 2016 10:54 |
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thrawn527 posted:Same with Bendu. In the original script, Jedi were called the Jedi Bendu. Is Lucas sill in denial about how much he ripped off Dune?
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# ? Sep 20, 2016 11:32 |
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Was he ever? He's been very open about the genesis of A New Hope, and how much it takes from Flash Gordon and The Hidden Fortress at the very least, so I can't imagine he was being particularly evasive about other sources.
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# ? Sep 20, 2016 13:59 |
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New clip & article with Thrawn being Thrawn-y.
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# ? Sep 21, 2016 18:54 |
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Iirc dune was mentioned in the making of doc for the ot as inspiration and that came out like ten years ago
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# ? Sep 21, 2016 19:37 |
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Man. More French/Ryloth accent Hera. [edit] Also, if Luke was a little short for a Stormtrooper, what does that make Ezra? Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Man. More French/Ryloth accent Hera. A teen who had one hell of a growth spurt
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 02:05 |
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quote:“He must have had a story pre-Jedi because he had risen to Grand Admiral, and I’ve kind of told myself, ‘Well, I’m not changing much of what Tim did, I’m just putting him in this time period, which wasn’t really explored to my knowledge,” Filoni says. Play TIE Fighter you hack!
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 02:47 |
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bunnyofdoom posted:A teen who had one hell of a growth spurt He's still pretty short looking compared to the stormtroopers.
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 02:59 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Play TIE Fighter you hack! That was actually post-ESB so he is correct. (Like the first mission of Tie fighter is hunting down rebels fleeing Hoth)
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 03:45 |
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And pre-Jedi. And before he was a Grand Admiral. And I just want the cool ships from Tie Fighter to show up.
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 04:30 |
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 04:54 |
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This and the TIE uglies that were mixed with X-Wings are some of the worst parts of the EU. Really I think the only old EU I really liked was the Dark Horse stuff. The books were all awful.
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 05:00 |
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I love Thrawn's voice.
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 06:52 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Play TIE Fighter you hack! Thrawn is promoted to Grand Admiral, as seen here and it is still before the Prelude to Endor missions So it is pre-Jedi but that's cutting it reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaally close and probably isn't what they were thinking of when they decided to make him a Grand Admiral for the show. I'm in agreement, it spoils a bit of fun that he's a Grand Admiral already because if he had just started as a Vice Admiral then he is an unknown in the universe and people in the Empire just know him for getting results and having this obsession with art and studying it. I guess we'll have to wait and see what his intro is like but if he's a Grand Admiral already then I like to believe that SOMEONE in the Rebellion hierarchy will know who he is since there aren't a lot of Grand Admirals, just like there aren't a lot of Moffs
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 09:25 |
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Chickenwalker posted:This and the TIE uglies that were mixed with X-Wings are some of the worst parts of the EU. Really I think the only old EU I really liked was the Dark Horse stuff. The books were all awful. The uglies were the worst idea in the entire EU. Make the setting seem small and also that's not how complex machinery works dammit. It's stupid thematically too. You know what fighters criminals should be using? TIE fighters. There are a lot of TIE fighters out there, because the Empire was Bad.
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 10:31 |
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Bundle o' clips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGqNqseSg4w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUdV-UvSKHk
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Vitamin P posted:The uglies were the worst idea in the entire EU. Make the setting seem small and also that's not how complex machinery works dammit. Plus they're cheap and easy to maintain, plus they've been in the hands of corrupt officials since forever... "Whoops, another squadron of TIEs got 'lost' or 'stolen by pirates' or on one notable occasion 'lost in a swamp'..."
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 18:38 |
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Anyone else get the feeling that Ezra = Snoke?
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 01:20 |
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Nah, he hates the Empire. If he goes sith, it'd be more anarchistic than authortiarian.
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