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Really Pants posted:It's Fie's Cooking Power Hour. ...the goods. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Sep 23, 2016 14:59
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Koguma posted:Might have something to do with that fancy "S." in the middle of her name. Figured that had to do with her family being descendents of Sandlot.
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Sep 23, 2016 15:00
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Really Pants posted:It's Fie's Cooking Power Hour. *whisking furiously*
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Sep 23, 2016 15:02
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lets hang out posted:Figured that had to do with her family being descendents of Sandlot. I definitely think that's the case. I'm curious if Duvalie's hate for them is singular because their very existence sullies the purity of her ~ILLUSTRIOUS LORD~ or if it's something the Steel Maiden shares because their existence means she can't actually be the real Lianne Sandlot. I really hope the steel maiden makes a proper appearance in CS3.
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Sep 23, 2016 16:15
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Erpy posted:So if you want the Crossbell games to have a serious chance of being brought over, buy Trails 3rd when it comes out. Don't wait on a sale, buy it on day one and if you have both a Steam account and a GOG account, friggin double-dip. And be sure to remind the no-PSP-no-buy crowd and the "eh, 3rd is only a bridge game and not that important, so I think I'll just skip that one"-crowd of the stakes whenever possible. While I don't think I'll go so far as buying it twice on day one, I'm sure I'll get a copy right away. It'll be the first Trails game I'll be in a position to do so. And I'll grab it off Humble, like I do just about everything, since they're supposed to give devs/publishers more back than Steam. Not sure how they compare to GOG.
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Sep 23, 2016 17:04
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^^ Steel Maiden is the primary antagonist of Crossbell arc, isn't she? Also, I finished the game now, 10 hours after the "finale". There' something that bugs me [CS2 ending and epilogue spoilers] Class VII, except for Rean, is deciding to graduate one year early and went their separate ways. They deliberately dance around when they decided to do this and why, only saying that each of them has a duty to fulfilled, which is true, I guess. I really hoped this is part of some kind of plan they concoct in response to whatever Osbourne said to them at the castle. Only thing is, every member of Class VII are not really schemers like that, except for Crow. I hoped this gets elaborated on CS3 and it isn't just a way to generate even more angst
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Sep 23, 2016 17:10
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So are we supposed to know what's up with the obvious giant robot door at Lohengrin castle? No one ever talks about it even after Rean gets that vision of it opening and the seventh anguis showing up there in cs1 makes me think we're supposed to see it and go "oh that explains ________________ from the crossbell games". Or maybe it's a hint for cs3? I have no idea.
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Sep 23, 2016 17:31
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davidHalestorm posted:[CS2 ending and epilogue spoilers] Class VII, except for Rean, is deciding to graduate one year early and went their separate ways. They deliberately dance around when they decided to do this and why, only saying that each of them has a duty to fulfilled, which is true, I guess. I suppose it made more of an impact to show Rean staying there alone, but some of the reasons the others gave for leaving weren't that persuasive. Sure, Jusis doesn't have time to finish school anymore, and OK, Elliott would be better off in music school, but Gaius just sort of decides to head back to Nord because...? Alisa can't wait a year to start at Reinford because...?Given how important they kept saying Class 7 was to them, one would think they'd get a higher first-year retention rate than 10%.
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Sep 23, 2016 17:44
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epenthesis posted:I suppose it made more of an impact to show Rean staying there alone, but some of the reasons the others gave for leaving weren't that persuasive. Sure, Jusis doesn't have time to finish school anymore, and OK, Elliott would be better off in music school, but Gaius just sort of decides to head back to Nord because...? Alisa can't wait a year to start at Reinford because...?Given how important they kept saying Class 7 was to them, one would think they'd get a higher first-year retention rate than 10%. Alisa going into Reinford means she doesn't need military academy experience anymore. Gaius is just sort of "well, uh, Gaius has to leave too I guess" but that's Gaius in a nutshell.
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Sep 23, 2016 17:47
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davidHalestorm posted:^^ Honestly, the only ones that really made sense were Jusis, since trying to govern Kreuzen province while attending Thors at the same time probably would have been too much; Millium, since no matter how much she enjoyed it attending Thors was ultimately just a mission; and Emma and Fie, both of whom were going looking for someone(s), which is somewhat time sensitive, and Fie never really cared about the schooling aspect anyways. Alisa, Gaius, Machias, Laura and Elliot all had extremely flimsy reasons as to why they needed to graduate early.
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Sep 23, 2016 17:52
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lets hang out posted:So are we supposed to know what's up with the obvious giant robot door at Lohengrin castle? No one ever talks about it even after Rean gets that vision of it opening and the seventh anguis showing up there in cs1 makes me think we're supposed to see it and go "oh that explains ________________ from the crossbell games". Or maybe it's a hint for cs3? I have no idea. I feel like it's supposed to hint that the Steel Maiden has a giant robot too. Which would be excellent.
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Sep 23, 2016 17:52
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Saint Freak posted:...the goods. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) You can TRY eating it if you want...
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Sep 23, 2016 17:53
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lets hang out posted:Figured that had to do with her family being descendents of Sandlot. Aren't the Arseids descendants of one of her Eisenritter companions, not Sandlot herself?
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Sep 23, 2016 17:57
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Lord Koth posted:Aren't the Arseids descendants of one of her Eisenritter companions, not Sandlot herself? Yes but the speculation is that the S initial in their names stands for Sandlot, and the Black Records do talk about how the Sandlots are the original rulers of Legram, so why would the Arseids be the rulers now?
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Sep 23, 2016 18:03
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^ oh maybe, I think I remember that. ImpAtom posted:Alisa going into Reinford means she doesn't need military academy experience anymore. Gaius is just sort of "well, uh, Gaius has to leave too I guess" but that's Gaius in a nutshell. Things are heating up with Calvard for reals and Osbourne just rolled over an independent state that was stuck in between the two nations, a lot like Nord is. And Gaius was only in school to learn how to protect his home anyway, so yeah.
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Sep 23, 2016 18:04
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The dlc for the game is finally up, new casual costumes for everyone, 2 special costumes for Rean and Alisa(Joshua/Estelle costumes and Tokyo Xanadu cameo costumes.) and a bunch of cosmetic accessories. You can even buy the entire wave of dlc items for one lump sum.
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Sep 23, 2016 18:10
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Zaggitz posted:For those of you who wanna know more about what exactly went down in the finale, but don't wanna go through NG+ for it, I just transcribed all the Black Records for a friend. Spoilers, obviously: That didn't really say much that couldn't already be inferred from what we've already seen in the game. Unless there's more that NG+ adds don't really see any new revelations.
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Sep 23, 2016 18:35
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theblackw0lf posted:That didn't really say much that couldn't already be inferred from what we've already seen in the game. The revelations come from who you turn the books into, which I outlined in a previous post.
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Sep 23, 2016 18:39
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Zaggitz posted:The revelations come from who you turn the books into, which I outlined in a previous post. Ah gotcha
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Sep 23, 2016 18:52
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Whoever voiced Duvalie needs a medal holy poo poo she's the best.
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Sep 23, 2016 19:08
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Koguma posted:Whoever voiced Duvalie needs a medal holy poo poo she's the best. Just looked it up and its the same lady who did Estelle in Tales of Vesperia, talk about a difference.
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Sep 23, 2016 19:28
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Koguma posted:Whoever voiced Duvalie needs a medal holy poo poo she's the best. The entire recording staff deserves a medal, this dub is the best and is a significant improvement over the first game.
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Sep 23, 2016 20:01
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and the first game already had a great dub
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Sep 23, 2016 20:24
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Lord Koth posted:Honestly, the only ones that really made sense were Jusis, since trying to govern Kreuzen province while attending Thors at the same time probably would have been too much; Millium, since no matter how much she enjoyed it attending Thors was ultimately just a mission; and Emma and Fie, both of whom were going looking for someone(s), which is somewhat time sensitive, and Fie never really cared about the schooling aspect anyways. Alisa, Gaius, Machias, Laura and Elliot all had extremely flimsy reasons as to why they needed to graduate early. One of the Kiseki-guru's over at another board brought up another view; that with Olivier forced to the sidelines and Osborne having a stronger grip on the country than ever, Class VII was actually being "disbanded". The class itself wouldn't disappear, but the unique field-study based curriculum would be slashed and Class VII would follow the same curiculum as all the other classes. Since Class VII was Olivier's pet project and was an attempt by him to create a Bracer-like force trained to act separately from the factional powers, it'd make sense for the guy who pretty much forced the Guild out of the country to want to stomp that initiative out and make sure the people in that class would end up in his own force rather than Olivier's third way. And if that happened and much of what identified them as a class was slashed, it'd make sense for the people of Class VII to start reevaluating whether they still wanted to continue attending the academy. A note on Elliot and Alisa; they were never really that interested in a military career to begin with. Elliot was forced to attend Thors and with his dad eventually supporting his dream of attending the music academy, he already had a strong incentive to switch schools. Alisa went to Thors instead of the Roer Institute of Technology because she wanted to get away from her mom and her family name, but deep down she's not a warrior, she's a tech geek who's way more into engineering than military matters. With the relationship with her mom slightly less icy and her granddad once again being a prominent presence in the company, a lot of her incentive to stay at Thors was gone too. And the one major incentive she had, Rean, was actually pushing her to follow her own road rather than stick around for someone else. Erpy fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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Sep 23, 2016 20:27
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So when you get through the CS2 intermission, I highly recommend ignoring all your objectives and going straight to the ancient quarry in the Nord Highlands.
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Sep 23, 2016 20:33
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Erpy posted:One of the Kiseki-guru's over at another board brought up another view; that with Olivier forced to the sidelines and Osborne having a stronger grip on the country than ever, Class VII was actually being "disbanded". The class itself wouldn't disappear, but the unique field-study based curriculum would be slashed and Class VII would follow the same curiculum as all the other classes. Since Class VII was Olivier's pet project and was an attempt by him to create a Bracer-like force trained to act separately from the factional powers, it'd make sense for the guy who pretty much forced the Guild out of the country to want to stomp that initiative out and make sure the people in that class would end up in his own force rather than Olivier's third way. And if that happened and much of what identified them as a class was slashed, it'd make sense for the people of Class VII to start reevaluating whether they still wanted to continue attending the academy. A note on Elliot and Alisa; they were never really that interested in a military career to begin with. Elliot was forced to attend Thors and with his dad eventually supporting his dream of attending the music academy, he already had a strong incentive to switch schools. Alisa went to Thors instead of the Roer Institute of Technology because she wanted to get away from her mom and her family name, but deep down she's not a warrior, she's a tech geek who's way more into engineering than military matters. With the relationship with her mom slightly less icy and her granddad once again being a prominent presence in the company, a lot of her incentive to stay at Thors was gone too. And the one major incentive she had, Rean, was actually pushing her to follow her own road rather than stick around for someone else. This makes a lot of sense, given that (Finale spoilers) one of the directors was actually an Ironblood, which would certainly put a dent in Olivier's plans now that it was revealed to Class VII et al. If he still remains as a member, that would put two members on Osborne's side, making it really easy to stomp out any chance at anything actually happening on that front.
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Sep 23, 2016 20:38
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Yeah, that's a good point. Class VII is Olivert's pet project since day 1 and (spoilers for CS2 ending and Trails SC) and Osbourne manages to put someone loyal to him since pretty much day 1 in it. I wonder if that's Osbourne's revenge for Olivert foiling his plans to invade Liberl in SC? . Man, the good guys in Erebonia need to step up their scheming game. I want to see more stuff like what Kevin and Joshua did to trick the final boss in SC and all the ridiculous crap that Cassius Bright pulled.
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Sep 23, 2016 21:10
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The thing is, in talking about military careers in regards to Thors, is that I'm pretty sure it's mentioned at one point (sorry, not going through the entirety of both games to check) that only about 40% of Thors graduates these days go on to careers in the military. Everyone else just goes off to do something else. As for Alisa specifically, it's not like George ever had an interest in a military career and, presumably, Thors does cater to engineering to some extent, given him staying there to graduate despite apparently receiving huge numbers of offers from all over the place. Hell, they could have had Alisa take over that role in CS3, assuming any decent amount of time is still spent at Thors. The deliberate breakup of the class due to the Osborne stuff is certainly reasonable, but there was no real reason not to be more clear about that, as opposed to leaving it to speculation, if that is the case. Also, I could have sworn that RIT was a generally higher age group than Thors. Similar to the political university Machias is going to, where it' generally for graduates, but he's joining early for some reason.
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Sep 23, 2016 21:15
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Cyouni posted:This makes a lot of sense, given that (Finale spoilers) one of the directors was actually an Ironblood, which would certainly put a dent in Olivier's plans now that it was revealed to Class VII et al. If he still remains as a member, that would put two members on Osborne's side, making it really easy to stomp out any chance at anything actually happening on that front. I don't know if I'd paint it that bleak. Even if Class VII is "officially" disbanded the project did exactly what it set out to do from the start and I imagine that will pay dividends down the road. I have no doubt that when push comes to shove that Class VII's loyalties will lie with themselves and with the people they protect and serve rather than any sort of superficial "duty" imposed upon them by their families/country or whatnot. if CS3 is as much of a game-changer as Falcom is saying that it is, Class VII's bond will no doubt play a large role in how the narrative progresses.
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Sep 23, 2016 22:17
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Erpy posted:One of the Kiseki-guru's over at another board brought up another view; that with Olivier forced to the sidelines and Osborne having a stronger grip on the country than ever, Class VII was actually being "disbanded". The class itself wouldn't disappear, but the unique field-study based curriculum would be slashed and Class VII would follow the same curiculum as all the other classes. Since Class VII was Olivier's pet project and was an attempt by him to create a Bracer-like force trained to act separately from the factional powers, it'd make sense for the guy who pretty much forced the Guild out of the country to want to stomp that initiative out and make sure the people in that class would end up in his own force rather than Olivier's third way. And if that happened and much of what identified them as a class was slashed, it'd make sense for the people of Class VII to start reevaluating whether they still wanted to continue attending the academy. A note on Elliot and Alisa; they were never really that interested in a military career to begin with. Elliot was forced to attend Thors and with his dad eventually supporting his dream of attending the music academy, he already had a strong incentive to switch schools. Alisa went to Thors instead of the Roer Institute of Technology because she wanted to get away from her mom and her family name, but deep down she's not a warrior, she's a tech geek who's way more into engineering than military matters. With the relationship with her mom slightly less icy and her granddad once again being a prominent presence in the company, a lot of her incentive to stay at Thors was gone too. And the one major incentive she had, Rean, was actually pushing her to follow her own road rather than stick around for someone else. That's basically what my thoughts are, though I kind of suspect that there may have been some pressure put on everyone else in class VII to leave the academy at the end of the school year. Sure some of them have excellent reasons to leave, but it's how I ended up reading everyone else leaving the academy.
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Sep 23, 2016 22:40
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Lord Koth posted:The thing is, in talking about military careers in regards to Thors, is that I'm pretty sure it's mentioned at one point (sorry, not going through the entirety of both games to check) that only about 40% of Thors graduates these days go on to careers in the military.
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Sep 23, 2016 22:42
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Super Jay Mann posted:I don't know if I'd paint it that bleak. Even if Class VII is "officially" disbanded the project did exactly what it set out to do from the start and I imagine that will pay dividends down the road. I have no doubt that when push comes to shove that Class VII's loyalties will lie with themselves and with the people they protect and serve rather than any sort of superficial "duty" imposed upon them by their families/country or whatnot. Well, to be fair it did work, just any future things will be blatantly Osborne-centered. Or perhaps less blatant, but still definitely Osborne-centered. There's no way it'll be anything like the first year was.
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Sep 23, 2016 23:18
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also there are approx. 31 hugs in cold steel 2. i counted.
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Sep 24, 2016 05:22
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Endorph posted:also there are approx. 31 hugs in cold steel 2. i counted. You've done very important work and I appreciate it.
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Sep 24, 2016 07:15
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How many headpats
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Sep 24, 2016 07:17
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lets hang out posted:How many headpats As many as you want, depending on how many battles you finish with a link attack between Rean and Elise.
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Sep 24, 2016 07:19
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Does anyone else feel like the antagonists in CS II are a total let down? I just finished up the Finale and spent the entire time thinking how much better Liber Ark was as a climax. Barring Duke Cayenne, none of the antagonists really interacted with the party in any sort of way that would make you want to rise up and kick their rear end (not that the game would allow you to do so anyway since every time you defeat one of them it turns out they were totally holding back and you need to fetch an adult to defeat them for you). Vita kidnapping Elise (who it turns out is totally fine and was never in any danger anyway) is more or less the only antagonistic thing any of the major boss characters pull on the party in the entire game(s). The way Crow was handled was so bizarre too. Dude ordered a bunch of terrorist attacks that (presumably) killed innocent people, then assassinated the Chancellor and sparked a civil war and Class VII talks about him as if he's a naughty kid that ran away from home. There's so much potential for conflict there and Rean + pals through the whole game are content to just go with "come on crow, lets be friends again ya big goof". He's the only antagonist Class VII actually manage to definitively defeat and it only occurs under the pretense of beating the power of friendship into him. It's just such a far cry from how satisfying it was to defeat Weissmann, Loewe and co. tl;dr bad guys all suck as bad guys. too much power level bullshit and very little motivation. duvalies alright though
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Sep 24, 2016 13:16
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I beat the game last night. Now I feel sad. Having to watch characters make decisions that were extremely frustrating and knowing there was nothing I could do to stop them was heartbreaking. Rean just feels so broken by the death of Crow and the reveal about Osborne. The exact reasons for Class VII all leaving were vague and somewhat unsatisfying, but watching Rean push them away, particularly Alisa who I'd paired him with, was heartwrenching. And now he's just going to follow Osborne's orders because he has no drive left. I hope he's faking or something and wants to work from the inside to bring Osborne down. Won't be surprised if he's a villain for much of CS3 though. Poor Rean... Bland posted:Does anyone else feel like the antagonists in CS II are a total let down? I just finished up the Finale and spent the entire time thinking how much better Liber Ark was as a climax. Barring Duke Cayenne, none of the antagonists really interacted with the party in any sort of way that would make you want to rise up and kick their rear end (not that the game would allow you to do so anyway since every time you defeat one of them it turns out they were totally holding back and you need to fetch an adult to defeat them for you). Vita kidnapping Elise (who it turns out is totally fine and was never in any danger anyway) is more or less the only antagonistic thing any of the major boss characters pull on the party in the entire game(s). The way Crow was handled was so bizarre too. Dude ordered a bunch of terrorist attacks that (presumably) killed innocent people, then assassinated the Chancellor and sparked a civil war and Class VII talks about him as if he's a naughty kid that ran away from home. There's so much potential for conflict there and Rean + pals through the whole game are content to just go with "come on crow, lets be friends again ya big goof". He's the only antagonist Class VII actually manage to definitively defeat and it only occurs under the pretense of beating the power of friendship into him. It's just such a far cry from how satisfying it was to defeat Weissmann, Loewe and co. I felt similarly for much of the Finale, however by the end it became apparent that we weren't going to get a complete triumph because this wasn't the climax. There's still a third game in this trilogy. I was expecting an SC but the story went in a very different direction, and in the end I'm okay with that. Osborne is an incredible villain and I look forward to seeing where he goes next.
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Is the game hanging on a black screen after the ending a common bug?
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