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Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Pilsner posted:

I'm on the fence about working from home. We have some people at the office who are very often working from home, or some that meet early and leave ridiculously early on the dot, like 2pm, and it's frequently an annoyance that it's a struggle to get some face time with them talking about the projects, and after lunch it's like "let's look at it tomorrow". Meanwhile I'm there 95% of days from around 9 til 4-5 ish. Yeah sure you can phone and Skype, but people are AFK constantly when they are home, so communication is ridiculously slow. We also cooperate with some developers in Pakistan (3 times zones away from us), and the amount of time it can take to solve a simple problem is absurd. It can take days to resolve something that two people at a physical office could solve in an hour because they can communicate instantly and work on their computers "live" so to speak.

I can't imagine what struggle it must be solving critical issues in a world-wide distributed company with no central office. People just get used to the fact that when you type a message in the common chat room, it can take anywhere from 2 minutes to 2 hours until you get a reply, and that's how it is? Fair enough I guess.

I think it would take some company dedication to make working from home successful, like infrastructure and common chat rooms, but then on the other hand I think - gently caress no, I don't want to work from home and have a webcam and an open microphone on all day ready to chat with coworkers at a moment's notice. I'd rather be in an office then.

I work from home probably 60% of the time. Others on my team are about the same. We usually stagger our days so we have someone in the office to field walk-ins from upper management, but even then no one is super fussed when our section is all remote on any given day. A couple on the team are 100% home office.

We have people strung around the globe, and we mostly don't have any issues with meeting attendance. We have almost ZERO face to face meetings, even when we all work in the same building. Even the all-hands-on-deck critical issues. I'm one of those early leavers, because I'm an early starter (I do 6AM-2ish). But I'm more than willing to jump on a late afternoon meeting, I'm just not going to be physically in the office to do it. And that usually means I'll let those after-hours (for me) stack up and then take a comp day.

There are people who seem to *never* be available for meetings or project updates, but usually they get removed from the projects and eventually not requested for new ones. Which always struck me as odd, since being a lead for your group in a project gives you experience and exposure for bonuses and promotion. But some people have different priorities and are comfortable with never advancing.

Overall, I'd say it's less dedication to the company, and more pride in your reputation and work in my experience.

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but people are AFK constantly when they are home

This is your main problem, here. You have to have people willing to be professional whether they work at home or in the office with everyone else. If you have to corner someone to get them to collaborate with you, it's not really a good indication of their professionalism.

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We also cooperate with some developers in Pakistan (3 times zones away from us), and the amount of time it can take to solve a simple problem is absurd
This was also a HUGE issue with us for a while (except 11 time zones). We finally had to put up the cash to pay for off-shifts for some of the dev team.


Boiled Water posted:

The chess clock is pretty neat when your boss asks why you're not done with A Thing you can point to the clock and say "x hours were taken up by other departments which is why I'm not done yet"

Keeping track of your time is always a good thing.

We don't have a chess-clock, but the team does use Toggl. It's less about time-cards and more about showing where our time is going. The reports we've generated from those has twice justified an increase in head-count for my group.

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Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Suzuran posted:

What about actual punch clocks, are those obsolete yet? At a prior employer we had one of the old mechanical clocks until 2003-ish, when he "upgraded" to a computerized punch clock that used your fingerprint to clock you in and out so people couldn't punch for their friends. The clock fed its data into a web-based status board that the boss would watch like a hawk, because if you were not there and visibly busy working on something you were literally stealing time from the company and he expected to be compensated. We had to punch out for any breaks, including smoke breaks, and if the boss found you being insufficiently busy he would punch you out with his administrative access code and you would not be paid from then until you were allowed to clock in again. One of my projects was supposed to be a program that monitored web usage via the proxy server logs and automatically punched someone out if they visited websites on the blacklist (myspace, etc) but that never happened.

If you were expected to continue working after being punched out that's illegal, by the way.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

Kwyndig posted:

If you were expected to continue working after being punched out that's illegal, by the way.

I have a feeling that employer is one of those "labor law is for suckers" types.

Frobbe
Jan 19, 2007

Calm Down
Getting back into obsolete technology, i'd like to show off this very nice typewriter i bought this weekend.


Initial tests shows that it works, though it does need a new ribbon. I've ordered one off of ebay that also has a red part, because red makes everything seem more important. I also saw you can get purple ink ribbons, which just seems classy as all gently caress.


This is after cleaning it up and giving it a quick wax and polish!

there's more info available here https://myoldtypewriter.wordpress.com/2015/11/04/the-handy-manual-olivetti-studio-42-typewriter/ including this handy diagram



It really makes you understand the terms behind tabulating, upper and lower case, caps lock and whatnot!

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.

banana posted:

I don't want to reopen the discussion, I just thought that getting this result when asking in german was funny.



Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

Frobbe posted:

Getting back into obsolete technology, i'd like to show off this very nice typewriter i bought this weekend.


Initial tests shows that it works, though it does need a new ribbon. I've ordered one off of ebay that also has a red part, because red makes everything seem more important. I also saw you can get purple ink ribbons, which just seems classy as all gently caress.


This is after cleaning it up and giving it a quick wax and polish!

there's more info available here https://myoldtypewriter.wordpress.com/2015/11/04/the-handy-manual-olivetti-studio-42-typewriter/ including this handy diagram



It really makes you understand the terms behind tabulating, upper and lower case, caps lock and whatnot!

Always liked the look of olivettis, my Lettera 22 in the same color is my favorite.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

My Lovely Horse posted:

I almost entirely automated a job that was 90% sitting around watching progress bars to begin with, and productivity is through the roof. Six hours a day I browse the forums and listen to music on youtube, and we're five months ahead of schedule. Sometimes I look around the office and wonder if it's me or if they're all just loving around. I don't even know what you're supposed to do for eight hours straight.



Also, I feel like I needed to correct this one:

Boiled Water posted:

If you're really good at automating things your job could become obsoleting your coworkers. self

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Kwyndig posted:

If you were expected to continue working after being punched out that's illegal, by the way.

Not sure what your nationality is but US labor laws are maybe three steps ahead of allowing indentured servitude, if not outright slavery.

Yeah - expecting/requiring employees to work off the clock is technically illegal, but when you can fire an employee because you don't like his new haircut or the color of his shoes (or pretty much an infinite number of reasons not explicitly prohibited by law) it makes any prohibition against firing a person worthless.

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Spy_Guy
Feb 19, 2013

Trabant posted:

Also, I feel like I needed to correct this one:
"If you're really good at automating things your job could become obsoleting your coworkers. self"

Speaking as a guy who is really good at automating things, this is not strictly the case. You will make a lot of people obsolete, since their jobs might take so much less time to do, but that only means they get moved to other tasks. One thing you won't do is obsolete yourself. If a manager speaks with another manager and says "This guy made X task take 15 minutes to do, when it took 3 days in the past!" you bet you're gonna be a valuable office commodity, then get to automate for other teams as well.

It's very fun work too. You see some task being done sluggishly and inefficiently, roll in, do your thing and then see how much things have improved when you're done.

Suzuran
Sep 14, 2012

Kwyndig posted:

If you were expected to continue working after being punched out that's illegal, by the way.

Once you were clocked out you had a strike on your attendance record so it did not matter if you stayed and worked or went home; You were already in poo poo. As far as I can remember everyone stayed and worked though. I'm pretty sure if you left you would not be coming back. This was in Illinois so he could do pretty much whatever he wanted. Toward the end a lot of people were working unpaid overtime just trying to keep the place afloat. Any job in a recession, any port in a storm.

Magnus Praeda posted:

I have a feeling that employer is one of those "labor law is for suckers" types.

Very much so. The company ceased to exist about two years after the events described, for a variety of reasons. Low employee morale was a large factor.

I was the first person in the door to set up before the place opened and the last person out the door when it closed. Really sad to see something you invested so much time and effort in get run into the ground. We sold offline computer training, which probably is also obsolete. The business model is certainly failed.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
My last job was salaried and the director made it absolutely clear that the measure of one's performance was directly tied to how many hours over 40 they worked, it was lovely

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Code Jockey posted:

My last job was salaried and the director made it absolutely clear that the measure of one's performance was directly tied to how many hours over 40 they worked, it was lovely

So competent workers were seen as inferior? Sounds about normal.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Geoj posted:

Not sure what your nationality is but US labor laws are maybe three steps ahead of allowing indentured servitude, if not outright slavery.

Yeah - expecting/requiring employees to work off the clock is technically illegal, but when you can fire an employee because you don't like his new haircut or the color of his shoes (or pretty much an infinite number of reasons not explicitly prohibited by law) it makes any prohibition against firing a person worthless.

Well yeah, there's that. But even if they fire you you can land them in poo poo if they're forcing unpaid work. Fines and penalties for violating minimum wage laws are no joke for a small business. Unless you're in jail or work in an exempt industry for some reason, then tough poo poo.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Kwyndig posted:

Well yeah, there's that. But even if they fire you you can land them in poo poo if they're forcing unpaid work. Fines and penalties for violating minimum wage laws are no joke for a small business. Unless you're in jail or work in an exempt industry for some reason, then tough poo poo.

Even "small" business owners have pretty deep pockets compared to their employees, and trying to take someone to court over what usually amounts to a few hundred dollars is difficult. Most people will just assume what they would get back would go to legal fees, so why bother? Plus even if you put the jerk out of business there's just going to be another rear end in a top hat to pick up where the first rear end in a top hat left off. It's pretty futile, and why nobody bothers. Couple that with the Protestant work ethic that says if you complain about hardship you're a Bad Person, and you got a ready-made exploitable workforce that just shrugs and takes it when you screw them over.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
Admittedly, not anywhere near 'best' in any way, but does Best Buy still offer really big sales on computers only to pre-install every machine with a Geek Squad Protection A/V and 'restore disks' that increases their prices by about $100+ that can't be refunded or removed from the purchase price?

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Jerry Cotton posted:

So competent workers were seen as inferior? Sounds about normal.

Yep.

Complete all your work items for a sprint? Great, but what else did you do?

So glad I'm done. The place I'm at now feels like I'm barely working in comparison to that, ha.


JediTalentAgent posted:

Admittedly, not anywhere near 'best' in any way, but does Best Buy still offer really big sales on computers only to pre-install every machine with a Geek Squad Protection A/V and 'restore disks' that increases their prices by about $100+ that can't be refunded or removed from the purchase price?

I am so glad I've always built my own PCs, jesus.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


I am currently looking for a good old-school CRT TV for retro gaming, currently a B&O MX 8000 is looking like the best option, because it does proper scanlines and has amazing picture and sound quality.

While looking around, I got to looking at CRT computer monitors, too. Just look at this bargain (especially that last line of text):



:eyepop:

You're gonna need one hell of a desk for that mother, no Ikea flat pack stuff.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



KozmoNaut posted:

I am currently looking for a good old-school CRT TV for retro gaming, currently a B&O MX 8000 is looking like the best option, because it does proper scanlines and has amazing picture and sound quality.

While looking around, I got to looking at CRT computer monitors, too. Just look at this bargain (especially that last line of text):



:eyepop:

You're gonna need one hell of a desk for that mother, no Ikea flat pack stuff.

Yep. Sony Trinitron CRTs were made from dwarf star matter and actually gained mass every step you took carrying them.

But by far the best monitor ever made.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


It's kinda weird to think that 24" used to be absolutely gigantic, even the biggest 4:3 CRT TVs were rarely bigger than 28". To have something that size as a computer monitor was unheard of.

I remember back in trade school, one guy got a 20" 1600x1200 LCD that he ran at like 800x600 or even 640x480 due to vision problems. I remember thinking that thing was absolutely massive and ridiculous, and probably outrageously expensive.

Now I have two similar 20" LCDs at work and they're just kinda OK, I guess. Nothing to get excited about :geno:

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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

KozmoNaut posted:

It's kinda weird to think that 24" used to be absolutely gigantic, even the biggest 4:3 CRT TVs were rarely bigger than 28". To have something that size as a computer monitor was unheard of.

I remember back in trade school, one guy got a 20" 1600x1200 LCD that he ran at like 800x600 or even 640x480 due to vision problems. I remember thinking that thing was absolutely massive and ridiculous, and probably outrageously expensive.

Now I have two similar 20" LCDs at work and they're just kinda OK, I guess. Nothing to get excited about :geno:

I had a 17" that we threw off the fourth floor of a dormitory in college, and REAL police came because someone thought it was a small bomb.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
Some car repair shop in Poland is still using a Commodore 64 to do some driveshaft balancing:
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-old-rear end-commodore-64-is-still-being-used-to-run-an-1787196319

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

DrBouvenstein posted:

Some car repair shop in Poland is still using a Commodore 64 to do some driveshaft balancing:
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-old-rear end-commodore-64-is-still-being-used-to-run-an-1787196319



Yeah but that's the new model.

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Suzuran posted:

What about actual punch clocks, are those obsolete yet? At a prior employer we had one of the old mechanical clocks until 2003-ish, when he "upgraded" to a computerized punch clock that used your fingerprint to clock you in and out so people couldn't punch for their friends. The clock fed its data into a web-based status board that the boss would watch like a hawk, because if you were not there and visibly busy working on something you were literally stealing time from the company and he expected to be compensated. We had to punch out for any breaks, including smoke breaks, and if the boss found you being insufficiently busy he would punch you out with his administrative access code and you would not be paid from then until you were allowed to clock in again. One of my projects was supposed to be a program that monitored web usage via the proxy server logs and automatically punched someone out if they visited websites on the blacklist (myspace, etc) but that never happened.

Actual, mechanical, punch clocks are nice. At a company I used to work for, I had to approve my staffs hours and compare them to their door access cards. You were not allowed to hold a door, everyone had to touch their card when they entered or left. The time clock used bio-metric ID which took forever to clock in/out. So we had to metrics to fuss over.

Give me a time card and a punch clock and life would be so much easier. Dealing with buddy punching isn't hard. You just have to hang someone to let people know it's not acceptable.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Tens of thousands of NHS computers are still running Windows XP.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Man, those Fallout HD graphics packs are getting good.

Trebek
Mar 7, 2002
College Slice

DrBouvenstein posted:

Some car repair shop in Poland is still using a Commodore 64 to do some driveshaft balancing:
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-old-rear end-commodore-64-is-still-being-used-to-run-an-1787196319



This is amazing in every way possible.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
Further proof that the C64 is the best

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

KozmoNaut posted:

It's kinda weird to think that 24" used to be absolutely gigantic, even the biggest 4:3 CRT TVs were rarely bigger than 28". To have something that size as a computer monitor was unheard of.


I think I posted it in this thread, but I was trying to find the largest consumer CRT TV made. I was able to find references to 40" and maybe 42" TV existing, but no model numbers, pricing, dates, etc. I know towards the end of their existance, Best Buy regularly sold 32" CRT TVs, but I don't personally remember seeing any bigger than that.

I used to do some PC janitoring for a guy who had a LAN set up in his basement with relatively high end PCs and a T1 internet connection (back when that was a big thing). He had several CRT widescreen monitors. 24" Sony's from what I remember. I do remember that they were a 2 man lift.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Seems that back from about 1993-1999, if you could afford a 21" Trinitron, you were king of the nerds. It was a very well performing piece. I do not miss lugging it around.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


The largest I've heard of that were sold as regular TVs was 40" or 42", for a 4:3 TV. Mitsubishi made some, as did Sony and I think Phillips made some too. Don't think I've ever heard of a 16:9 CRT bigger than 36".

I've heard about 45" CRTs and even a 60" one that was only produced in very limited numbers, as it was just too big to work properly. But I can't really find anything concrete, info about those mahoosive beasts is scarce to say the least. They would have been absolutely ridiculously expensive and impractical.

Personally, I'll be perfectly happy with a 28" B&O. Back in the day, that was big enough to impress most people :) 38kg of pure quality.

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Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Wasabi the J posted:

I had a 17" that we threw off the fourth floor of a dormitory in college, and REAL police came because someone thought it was a small bomb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jMFiRvxvrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1c_J9gcCOo

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry
Yeah, for the TV sizes, I meant 4:3. I know Sony had their WEGA widescreen TVs, but I don't remember how big they got.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

horny is prohibited

Lowen SoDium posted:

I think I posted it in this thread, but I was trying to find the largest consumer CRT TV made. I was able to find references to 40" and maybe 42" TV existing, but no model numbers, pricing, dates, etc. I know towards the end of their existance, Best Buy regularly sold 32" CRT TVs, but I don't personally remember seeing any bigger than that.

The Mitsubishi CS-40* series of 40" CRTs weighed about 240 pounds, and in the mid-90s were the kings of the mountain. You can check out the manual for a CS-40503 here, and a press release mentioning them here. MSRP ranged from $3499 for the base-model 40503 to $3999 for the top-end 40805 (~$5400-6200 in today's dollars). They didn't sell very many and it was discontinued in 1998.

In 2001, Sony made a Trinitron in the same size, the 40XBR800, which was even capable of 1080P. It weighed three hundred pounds and cost a relatively paltry $2,300. (Specsheet here, paywalled WSJ article here.)

There's some internet rumor that Mitsubishi once made a 61" CRT, but quickly discontinued it because the tubes didn't last very long and were quite dangerous to move.

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Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
I've got a 21" Dell-branded Sony Trinitron PC monitor in my garage that I got back in... 2005? It was liquidated when some school changed over to flat panels. Absolutely gigantic, weighs as much as my car, and the picture quality is amazing.

Best part? Hooking my scan line generator to it, combined with this cool little composite to RGB/VGA upscaler I found at a thrift store. Makes old console games look awesome.

The monitor also has RGB inputs, but without the scanline generator, it looks a little blurry.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

DrBouvenstein posted:

Some car repair shop in Poland is still using a Commodore 64 to do some driveshaft balancing:
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-old-rear end-commodore-64-is-still-being-used-to-run-an-1787196319



When it doesn't need to communicate with anything but the balancer and maybe a printer, there's little impetus to replace working equipment.

I love finding weird poo poo like that tucked away somewhere.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

KozmoNaut posted:

Personally, I'll be perfectly happy with a 28" B&O. Back in the day, that was big enough to impress most people :) 38kg of pure quality.

You know I can't resist posting my retro setup



About $10,000 of 1992s finest electronics! Beosystem 7000, Beosystem 2500, MX7000, Redline 60.2, all in white. The TV and stereo are datalinked, so you can get the sound from the TV on the stereo - or you can play the sound from the stereo on the active speakers on the TV!

I use a softmodded Wii hooked up via RGB Scart for retro games, it does 240p very well.

I can also PM you some Facebook groups for Denmark/Euro-based B&O sites if you're not already on them.

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon
Those old B&O TVs are gorgeous. In particular when you put it directly on the floor ising its tilted foot. Same goes for redline speakers!


Still using a MX6000 myself, as I still haven't bothered to make the transition to flatscreens :v:

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


evobatman posted:

You know I can't resist posting my retro setup



About $10,000 of 1992s finest electronics! Beosystem 7000, Beosystem 2500, MX7000, Redline 60.2, all in white. The TV and stereo are datalinked, so you can get the sound from the TV on the stereo - or you can play the sound from the stereo on the active speakers on the TV!

I use a softmodded Wii hooked up via RGB Scart for retro games, it does 240p very well.

I can also PM you some Facebook groups for Denmark/Euro-based B&O sites if you're not already on them.

Yeah, it's a pretty rad setup you've got there.

I was actually originally just looking for any MX TV, but a really inexpensive (possibly free) MX8000 popped up and well, it was the top-of-the-line end-all-be-all final gasp for the B&O CRT (disregarding the Avants), so I gotta have it. Unlike a lot of the previous model, the service menu is directly accessible from the remote, and there are a few other nice exclusive features as well.

The MX 8000 only has two SCART inputs, unlike the 7000's 2x SCART plus 1x S-Video, but they're both RGB-capable and I don't mind using an external switch. I'm only going to hook up my Gamecube (or Wii) and PS2 initially, anyway. Are both the SCART plugs on the 7000 RGB-capable? And are you using the hidden scanline feature for that pure retro gaming feel?

IMHO the best thing about the 7000/8000, apart from the awesome video quality, are the speakers. They're just ridiculously good and powerful. Of course they run rings around the puny speakers in modern LCD TVs, but they'll put most proper stereos to shame as well.

I'm not a member of any B&O groups, but I used to work at the HQ in Struer, and my dad is a certified tech from back when CRTs were the hottest thing around. I don't think I'm going straight into the deep end, for now. Just the TV, and mostly for retro gaming :)

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Only one of the two scarts on the MX7000 is RGB-capable as far as I've figured out, but I have a very very early model. Later models might be more capable.

I did try that scanline thing with a 480i signal from the Wii, but it didn't make much difference to me. 240P from NES, SNES and Mega Drive emulators is GORGEOUS though! If you're a scanline fetishist it doesn't get much better than that! Remember to invest in proper Scart cables for your PS2 and Gamecube. I hooked up my PS3 via Scart in 576i for shits and giggles, and it does look pretty good!

The speakers are a completely different experience from LCD TV speakers, I've read that they are up to par with the Beolab 2500s, but I haven't pushed them enough to confirm it.

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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


I have a SCART cable for the Gamecube, but unfortunately it's one of those cheap-rear end composite-only ripoffs.

I'll be getting proper cables from these guys https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/, they even offer the cables with a "sync cleaner" that eliminates artifacts from the combined composite+sync signal when you're using RGB. Those guys and http://retrorgb.com/ are the go-to places for RGB on older consoles, even the N64 which never officially had RGB. I think theres an NES RGB mod now as well, which is just ridiculous.

I may just actually hook up the Wii instead of the Gamecube. It should work fine with the official RGB cable, and I've got a bunch of games on Virtual Console to tide me over until I get my hands on some actual old-school hardware. I know the consoles from the GC/PS2/Xbox generation forwards work great on 16:9 TVs, but 4:3 just feels more old-school and "proper" to me. And a pillarboxed picture in the middle of a 32" 16:9 is just tiny and pathetic compared to a 4:3 28".

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