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G - Smattas be our gavel.
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Sep 30, 2016 05:19
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FoxTerrier posted:It will not calm people down. It will convince them we agree with their violent response to Hagar/CoM and inflame things. I am not opposed to this outcome
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Sep 30, 2016 05:21
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Switching to F Diog, is there any other large inanimate object aound that we could smash for dramatic efect that isn't a melachim statue?
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Sep 30, 2016 05:24
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Let me try putting this another way for anyone still undecided.* So, in this example, let's say Religion A—Capybarisim—is the majority. B—Snarlsissm—is a persecuted minority. Y'all just told a bunch of die hard, long suffering Snarlsists you're not actually a Snarlsist as well, you're Capybarist. Furthermore, the Snarlsist preacher that was feeding their faith by telling them for decades that you were a secret Snarlisist too is a liar, and if they have questions about faith go ask Capybarist Father Fred. Then, when they understandably freak out at (they believe) being lied to and their eternal souls put at risk, as well as having been part of a persecuted minority for no goddamn reason, your idea to calm them down, and show them it isn't the time for violence, and that you're REALLY not mad at the Snarlsist church/preacher that misrepresented you as a member, is to go break the super symbolic Snarlsist icon of Saint Snarls** in the corner. (Also an icon Capybarists are known to hate, FWIW) .... Y'all. For real. C'mon. No. FoxTerrier fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Sep 30, 2016 |
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Sep 30, 2016 05:24
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Sep 30, 2016 05:28
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I'm gonna go with F Yell at everyone to stop
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Sep 30, 2016 05:45
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FoxTerrier posted:Let me try putting this another way for anyone still undecided.* G
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Sep 30, 2016 05:48
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Wish we could do Power word El and carve it out on the wall again
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Sep 30, 2016 05:51
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G. Lift the statue and Smattas over your head with your tremendous strength and throw it into the wall for dramatic effect, THEN yell at everyone to stop fighting! Honestly, I could hardly ask for a better first vote! ELLLLLLLL
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Sep 30, 2016 05:52
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I - Lets not cause more violence than we need.
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Sep 30, 2016 05:57
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J. "Sheketh! Silence! I AM MAGISTRATE OF THIS CITY AND YOU WILL LISTEN WHEN I HAVE MORE TO SAY. Then banish the priestess.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:16
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G. They can believe whatever stupid poo poo they want, but they can't be killing each other and the statue has to go no matter what. And they can't be putting words in Enkidel's mouth.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:35
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Mexican Deathgasm posted:Those guys are like 110% sure that Hagar was intentionally misleading them which is incredibly weird. It's not a "lol goons" situation, it's not knowing why or how they are so certain even after what we said. Maybe they have secret knowledge of something that they're not telling us? Maybe they're just dicks that really don't care at all whether Hagar was herself misled and just want to slake their anger with blood? Yeah, this is weird. It's a hell of a jump from, "we don't believe Hagar" to "Hagar has been knowingly lying for years." Agree about not-smahing things. F Also: Diog - Can a mob of unarmed, un-blooded people meaningfully hurt us?
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Sep 30, 2016 06:48
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FoxTerrier posted:By destroying it, your message is not 'everyone shut the gently caress up and listen to me, look how strong I am.' It is if you yell "Everyone shut the gently caress up and listen to me" while smashing the statue with the strength of ~120 regular men It's almost as if we live in a society where the biggest and strongest lead, and are obeyed because the religion of this society explicitly states it's because this means they are naturally better than you
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Sep 30, 2016 07:01
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Yeah, it'll grab hold of their attention in a visceral way and bring the focus back onto Enkidel, which is what is needed to restore order right now.
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Sep 30, 2016 07:08
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F. The statue needs to go, but it doesn't need to go explosively right this instant.
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Sep 30, 2016 07:10
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Wha t is the Chadash Bait Hamikdash?
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Sep 30, 2016 07:13
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Diog, Hagar is next to us, right? Mostly behind the shield wall?
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Sep 30, 2016 07:21
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F, You tards. Smashing poo poo is only going to make people more angry and want more violence. Yelling in mighty man voice for SILENCE! might shut them long enough to tell them to chill out and go home and think about poo poo.
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Sep 30, 2016 07:24
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G I think getting everyone's attention by smashing the statue is better than potentially triggering some mighty speech. With our luck we'll stop everyone's hearts or something. We shouldn't be experimenting. I'm all kinds of suspicious of all the bizarre warnings we've been getting. A while back Ishamal told us to ignore them.
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Sep 30, 2016 07:33
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Boonoo posted:I'm all kinds of suspicious of all the bizarre warnings we've been getting. A while back Ishamal told us to ignore them. Eagerly awaiting our next opportunity to tell Ishamal he was wrong, again.
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Sep 30, 2016 07:48
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Boonoo posted:[I'm all kinds of suspicious of all the bizarre warnings we've been getting. A while back Ishamal told us to ignore them. I don't think so, the last of such warnings to be ignored ended with Enkidel succumbing to death/HUNGER/becoming-a-being-of-pure-light Pretty sure Ishamal tells us to ignore: -Our Hunger -Blue Fog 'Ghosts' -Temptation to use magicks -Letting out balls tap into our well
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Sep 30, 2016 07:53
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I say the statue should be melted down and poured on the altar of El.
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Sep 30, 2016 07:58
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G Wrong voting is fun.
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Sep 30, 2016 08:13
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urf posted:I don't think so, the last of such warnings to be ignored ended with Enkidel succumbing to death/HUNGER/becoming-a-being-of-pure-light Here's a bit from when we were getting terrible feelings about being separated from our Balls--Danal was going to ask some to accompany him on an adventure. Diogines posted:At some point prior to the current conversation with Danal or maybe a bit after, but not in a way that conflicts with the pending vote.... It seems like some of this stuff has been similar. This whole mess has been full of odd feelings. Who exactly is under attack here? It doesn't seem like Enkidel is under physical threat. Is it that the heretics have stopped worshiping us? I wonder, too, what we don't understand. What was Hagar trying to say. "They..." What? The whole situation is fishy.
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Sep 30, 2016 08:19
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Boonoo posted:
So what?
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Sep 30, 2016 08:34
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There definitely seems to be something strange at work but like others have said we are working with a significant lack of information regarding Hagar's more detailed dealings with her congregation and then there's the fact that the melachim worshippers number in the hundreds higher than we had believed. It could simply be that Enkidel's grasp of the situation was much more tenuous than he had believed, thus the reactions from Paebel & Co. I suspect there's more that Hagar was holding back Bareen-taught knowledge kept to herself? Possibly about Enkidel specifically?
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Sep 30, 2016 08:43
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G to prove that we're not fooling around with them. Maybe destroying the object of their worship will end the weird effects going on in this situation.
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Sep 30, 2016 08:46
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Get smashing.
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Sep 30, 2016 08:49
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F. This should be enough I get this sinking feeling that our worshipers (however unknowingly) are enthralled to us in such a way that what we say is TRUE. Like, bold reality warping truth, at least to them. Saying Haggar is incorrect and the melachim faith is false means to every single worshiper that hears it, it is so true and to deny such fact means one is being a malicious heretic. This is the huge leap, the huge anger; yes these peoples faith is very important to them and the normal reaction would be Gaddiel's, but I'm going to hazard Gaddiel isn't fully enthralled. Instead by just saying Hagar is wrong, then the reality is Hagar was always wrong and these truths were always self-evident, so thus Hagar is a fraud, a charlatan taking advantage of people and potentially condemning them. Like, we're loving half Melachim and we've seen evidence that Melachim can change reality on a whim, possibly subconsciously. Why would we think we're exempt from this? Amok himself did this exact same poo poo to us.
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Sep 30, 2016 10:24
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Cool, cool. I don't really understand why we never ran the possibility past Eleazar and Paebel that the tablets could have come from Bareen and so Hagar was also misled, not lying. S'alright though. More partial towards G than F. I think in normal situations smashing the statue might do as FoxTerrier said, but given that we're also protecting Hagar behind a ring of Mighty warriors, I don't think there's a clear enough message that more murder is not actually being encouraged, and getting people to notice that is a good idea. More though, I'm not really comfortable with putting outselves in a tiny room with no way out with Hagar right now. Not going with either one, even though it's probably pointless given the voting. Voting to stop and use our ~~*~senses~*~~ to consider the feeling that we're under attack, our [???], and anything else strange.
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Sep 30, 2016 10:42
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Sep 30, 2016 10:46
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G + Pray hard for hell because holy hell can we do nothing right
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Sep 30, 2016 10:46
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Theglavwen posted:Cool, cool. I don't really understand why we never ran the possibility past Eleazar and Paebel that the tablets could have come from Bareen and so Hagar was also misled, not lying. S'alright though. It's not just Hagar in danger here. The crowd can easily turn on each other: one person breaks a holy relic, one person attacks them to defend the faith, others jump in. Things have gotten pretty ugly. Pausing to consider here would probably not be a good delay.
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Sep 30, 2016 10:50
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TacoNight posted:It's not just Hagar in danger here. The crowd can easily turn on each other: one person breaks a holy relic, one person attacks them to defend the faith, others jump in. Things have gotten pretty ugly. Eh, they're already doing that though, running away with Hagar certainly isn't going to stop it any more than anything else. I'm sympathetic to not wanting to pause, but it only takes a couple of moments. Maybe even a few moments delay isn't ideal, but I'd much rather find out if something is really going on behind the scenes. If we consider poo poo and get new info about the statue, or Hagar, or some sort of spell or effect that's going on and its source, it could really clear up the issue of whether or not we ought to be smashing statues or trusting Hagar. Generally as these sort of options go, we space out for like 10 seconds, then one of our balls goes "Enkidel, what should we do!" as the whole progresses incrementally.
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Sep 30, 2016 10:57
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G - this is probably a bad idea that will cause bloodshed and ruin. It is, however, awesome. So I'm voting for it
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Sep 30, 2016 10:59
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Sep 30, 2016 11:45
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The 'g' violence bs is pure sjw garbage. Smh. Not that I think we should destroy the statue... Or disband the heretics...or....etc etc.
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Wow, destroying a people's faith ends up with them in a confusing brawl and literally killing people. Who could have guessed??!?!?!?!? Right voters, that's who 
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