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Night10194 posted:There is something uniquely heroic about facing a nightmare from beyond normal reality and still having time for proper procedure, minimum necessary force, and rule of law. Nicholas Angel vs Cthulhu.
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"Have you ever fired a gun at a cultist screaming 'Ia!"?" "No, I have never fired a gun at a cultist screaming 'Ia!'." "How about two guns?"
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Oct 1, 2016 17:38
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It's suggested that TFV and VASCU don't actually have a lot of personnel exchange, mostly because one of the possible (and stupid) plotlines for TFV is that it's actually funded by a group of powerful vampires and you end up having to clean house. A psychic who can tell when you're lying and force you to answer questions would crack that wide open easily. And yeah, VASCU still values the law and TFV doesn't. They don't arrest people because they think it's funny, they do it because it's the right thing to do and you don't cut corners just because the perp has superpowers.
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Oct 1, 2016 18:04
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He was 10 feet tall and a bundle of muscle and claws, how did you ever capture him alive? It's my job, ma'am. Dammit you can't just go into a vampire coven guns blazing because you think the perp that nabbed the senators daughter is in there. If you weren't the best dam VASCU I have your rear end would be on the curb, but instead because I got the fuckin Feds so far up my rear end they know what I'm thinking about for breakfast your getting a new partner, and he's a werewolf so don't give me any of your poo poo because it's this or your gun, badge, and holy symbols.
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Oct 1, 2016 18:20
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Really, we need way more supernatural procedurals.
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Oct 1, 2016 18:22
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With proper series bibles. I'm sick of loose canons.
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Oct 1, 2016 18:42
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Precinct of Darkness Police: The Proceduring Depositions & Dragons RICO Case: Torment Crimefinder Blue Diceless Roleplaying System
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Oct 1, 2016 18:48
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There was a nWoD police sourcebook, Precinct 13 or something along those lines. Until I actually looked at it, I thought Apocalypse Prevention Inc might be a good source of MIB/supernatural cop mechanics. After having seen it, not so much.
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Oct 1, 2016 19:02
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Night10194 posted:Really, we need way more supernatural procedurals. K-9 units with lycanthropic squadmates.
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Oct 1, 2016 19:14
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Kurieg posted:K-9 units with lycanthropic squadmates. Well Janson, you cracked the case and you nabbed the suspect without causing a scene. I'm not good at giving compliments so I'm only gonna say this once. You're a good boy, yes you, you're the good boy. I'm telling you Janson, when I retire I'm buying a doghouse for me and the misses on a farm upstate and I'm just gonna sit on the porch gnawing on bones all day. I know you're not all dog like me, but you understand at some point you gotta stop chasing the bad guys tails and spend your time chasing your own. Only 3 dog weeks till then buddy, so let's close this one out for an old mutt like me.
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Oct 1, 2016 19:23
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Night10194 posted:I just use Unisystem or something. Always a good choice.
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Oct 1, 2016 20:11
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Halloween Jack posted:Beast wouldn't have so many creepy, gross issues if it abandoned the whole "teaching lessons" theme, which I'm not convinced is particularly strong or worth saving It's hilarious because the whole teaching lessons thing was shoehorned in later on to make Beasts more sympathetic after the outcry over the first draft. Before, they were cruel for their own sake, without any real pretension to a higher purpose. Anyway, I'd totes play a game as a hero whose superpower is committing microagressions against Beasts by Photoshopping new Pepe memes.
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Oct 1, 2016 20:34
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Barudak posted:He was 10 feet tall and a bundle of muscle and claws, how did you ever capture him alive? Fun as VASCU is, they just couldn't have filled the role TFV did in my old Hunter campaign before I moved, where I pitched the opening session as "The president has been kidnapped by vampires. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?"
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Night10194 posted:Really, we need way more supernatural procedurals. COPS. But the drunk guy by the side of the highway is a Tremere who's using vampire powers to walk around seven feet off the ground. That disorderly guy CAN break those cuffs when he hulks out into his werewolf warform. Getting called into to break up the domestic dispute between a Vampire and his Ghoul, because the neighbours think they're a bit rowdy. The awful driver that the officers suspect is high? Turns out he's just a mummy from 989BC who never got a license. Then they pick up an ordinary human burglar who gets shoved in the back of the car between the warform werewolf and the mummy. Teenager graffiti artists turn out to be Grey aliens in oversized hoodies. It'd probably mostly be funny for a few sessions, but I think those sessions would be pretty spectacular.
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Oct 1, 2016 21:01
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There's an anthology comic headed up by Alan Moore, called Cinema Purgatorio. One of the stories, Code Pru, is about New York emergency workers who have to deal with everything from Frankenstein's monsters off their meds, to suicidal vampires, to monstrous things with (lysergic) acid for blood. Seems like it might make for good inspiration.
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Oct 1, 2016 21:10
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Night10194 posted:Really, we need way more supernatural procedurals.
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Oct 1, 2016 21:12
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I was hyped for The Watch TV series, but I'm not sure how that project's going since Sir Pratchett's death.
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Oct 1, 2016 21:24
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Night10194 posted:Really, we need way more supernatural procedurals. Trial & Terror: SVU does that sort of thing.
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Oct 1, 2016 21:39
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Barudak posted:Precinct of Darkness Claw & Order: Spectral Victims Unit
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Oct 1, 2016 22:08
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You could probably run InSpectres like that. Have the franchise deal with vampire/undead senescence home, outbreaks of parasites of supernatural creatures, missing apparition cases and attempts to meld portions of the party dimension with the real world without the neighborhood's consent. Integrate the supernatural into the everyday and then have the government put it on the back burner because they make up such a small volume of the constituency.
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megane posted:Claw & Order: Spectral Victims Unit 
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I mean the best Urban Fantasy game I ever played in I was a Child Services worker who got caught up in some fairy Changeling bullshit and ended up tricking Titania by accident and saving Baltimore while solving occult mysteries by finding the relatively human motives underlying the crimes. God, that campaign was fun. Being a bureaucrat or civil servant caught up in horror is Good Times.
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Night10194 posted:Really, we need way more supernatural procedurals. The Discworld books about Captain Vimes is this, complete with werewolf. And I kinda think we don't, since they turned Vertigo's Lucifer into a supernatural procedural. Death Valley was a short-lived MTV series that was basically Brooklyn 99 with supernaturals. It was awesome. Vampirism was treated like drug addiction, with one of the characters' kids getting into it because she thought it was cool. It was really good, used lots of the gags we're brainstorming in this thread, but it doesn't feel like anyone has seen it! Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Oct 2, 2016 |
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Night10194 posted:Really, we need way more supernatural procedurals. I've said it before, but VASCU is my love letter to police procedurals (since the outline was "Psychic FBI agents. Go."). In my mind, it had to account for agents who run the gamut from DCI Jane Tennyson to John Luther; Columbo to Dave Robicheaux. It's one of the CofD things I'm happiest with, and I'd love a chance to revisit them.
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I remember someone saying good Hunter groups can be summarized as a specific fear of monstrous splats. The Union is the fear of the mob, TFV is the fear of The Man, the Aegis Kai Doru and Ascended Ones are the fear that humans aren't as ignorant as you hope they are, the Malleus Maleficarum and the Long Night are the fear that sooner or later God's gonna cut you down, etc. VASCU is the fear that you are not above the law. It doesn't matter what you need to do to survive, it doesn't matter what duties you think you have, in the end all humans will see is a criminal.
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Kavak posted:I remember someone saying good Hunter groups can be summarized as a specific fear of monstrous splats. The Union is the fear of the mob, TFV is the fear of The Man, the Aegis Kai Doru and Ascended Ones are the fear that humans aren't as ignorant as you hope they are, the Malleus Maleficarum and the Long Night are the fear that sooner or later God's gonna cut you down, etc. VASCU is the fear that you are not above the law. It doesn't matter what you need to do to survive, it doesn't matter what duties you think you have, in the end all humans will see is a criminal. That was my theory of them all. I also had Cheiron as the fear that humans are going to prey on *you*. Also that the crazy devil children are proof that no matter what taint or evil made you, you actually DID have a choice not to be a piece of poo poo, and someone who chose differently is going to bring you to justice. Night10194 fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Oct 2, 2016 |
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Night10194 posted:I mean the best Urban Fantasy game I ever played in I was a Child Services worker who got caught up in some fairy Changeling bullshit and ended up tricking Titania by accident and saving Baltimore while solving occult mysteries by finding the relatively human motives underlying the crimes. oh my gosh that both sounds really neat and makes me sad 'cos every changeling-adjacent game i've nosed into has just devolved into fey murderhoboes 
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Ningyou posted:oh my gosh It was a game about a single dad raising his adopted special needs daughter. Just her special needs were that she had been tainted with magical power and weird prophetic dreams by being in the fae realm. He ended up marrying an SVU detective he worked with, buying a house, and raising his daughter to be a functioning, happy adult while solving crimes and fighting giant cockroaches that wore the skins of hobos. That homebrew was loving awesome and I've pondered trying to make a novel out of Cecil Myron's story. My DMin' buddy in high school was really good.
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Barudak posted:Well Janson, you cracked the case and you nabbed the suspect without causing a scene. I'm not good at giving compliments so I'm only gonna say this once. You're a good boy, yes you, you're the good boy. Finally, the Tequila & Bonetti rpg we always wanted.
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Night10194 posted:I mean the best Urban Fantasy game I ever played in I was a Child Services worker who got caught up in some fairy Changeling bullshit and ended up tricking Titania by accident and saving Baltimore while solving occult mysteries by finding the relatively human motives underlying the crimes. Things like this are why I loved Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. Its entire overarching theme was that, for all the supernatural power and age of those who play the game of vampires, at the end of the night they are all pretty much as stupid, petty, divided and delusional as the humans they claim superiority over. The sarcophagus isn't the herald to some big tide of bloodshed, it's an explosive macguffin that only has value because stupidly old people thought it was powerful and couldn't imagine that they were wrong. The supposed big daddy of vampire civilization works as a cabbie. Vampire and vampire-hunter alike are both vulnerable to getting shot. And the game ends with the supposedly secret vampire society blowing the lid off its own hidden coffin because a Napoleonic-era noble two centuries out of time got scared of an upstart threat to his power and sicced his bodyguard on you under the spotlights. Compared to the rest of the WoD of that era, which loved to talk up the greatness of vampires and werewolves and so on, it was a real breath of fresh air.
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It's just such a shame about the Chinatown portion of the game.
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MollyMetroid posted:It's just such a shame about the Chinatown portion of the game. Chinatown isn't bad, it's just not as well done as the rest of the game. There are some great sidequests in there, and those are really the lifeblood of bloodlines.
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I'm surprised that's the first thing people bring up, rather than the sewers. Ironically, I don't actually hate them- I like the story of the sewer workers and the designs of the fleshcrafts.
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Davin Valkri posted:Things like this are why I loved Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. Its entire overarching theme was that, for all the supernatural power and age of those who play the game of vampires, at the end of the night they are all pretty much as stupid, petty, divided and delusional as the humans they claim superiority over. The sarcophagus isn't the herald to some big tide of bloodshed, it's an explosive macguffin that only has value because stupidly old people thought it was powerful and couldn't imagine that they were wrong.
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Davin Valkri posted:Things like this are why I loved Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. Its entire overarching theme was that, for all the supernatural power and age of those who play the game of vampires, at the end of the night they are all pretty much as stupid, petty, divided and delusional as the humans they claim superiority over. The sarcophagus isn't the herald to some big tide of bloodshed, it's an explosive macguffin that only has value because stupidly old people thought it was powerful and couldn't imagine that they were wrong. The supposed big daddy of vampire civilization works as a cabbie. Vampire and vampire-hunter alike are both vulnerable to getting shot. And the game ends with the supposedly secret vampire society blowing the lid off its own hidden coffin because a Napoleonic-era noble two centuries out of time got scared of an upstart threat to his power and sicced his bodyguard on you under the spotlights. Compared to the rest of the WoD of that era, which loved to talk up the greatness of vampires and werewolves and so on, it was a real breath of fresh air. It's why I always felt that Bloodlines felt more like a Requiem game than a Masquerade one. (It's really a shame Requiem isn't getting a video game.)
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quote:Hero Slang Maybe a bit late to comment on this, but it's the funniest thing I've ever seen in anything WoD related. If I ever get around to make a WoD-style parody game*, I'll be happy to make something even half as silly. (What gets me especially is "Ballroom Blitz". Now I want to make a character - preferrably a Hunter - who hums this constantly during shootouts - preferrably against Beasts.) ( *) Currently a toss-up between Mahou: The Shoujoing and Tumblr: The Privilege. The latter only uses a single stat for everything. Guess what it's called?)
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Simian_Prime posted:It's why I always felt that Bloodlines felt more like a Requiem game than a Masquerade one. Bloodlines is very late-era VTM Revised, so it comes from that period where someone somewhere had realized that vampires work really well as bickering organised crime syndicates who deal in power and blood. That's something that was carried over to the lightning-focused VTR.
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1. FATAL is 1200 pages long? That was the most shocking, spit-take-iest thing to come out of the latest System Mastery. Seriously, what the poo poo? 2. RPPR did a tongue-in-cheek review of Phoenix Command in their Afterhours subscriber podcast, and I felt like a big old grognard resenting them the whole time because I actually "get" Phoenix Command and would've wanted the chance to play it in all earnest. I even had a scenario sketched out as an intro to a totally-not-Jagged-Alliance setting.
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gradenko_2000 posted:1. FATAL is 1200 pages long? That was the most shocking, spit-take-iest thing to come out of the latest System Mastery. Seriously, what the poo poo? Honestly not surprised between the huge randomized tables, way too many stats, and the ridiculous complex maths you're expected to use. And I noticed - and used to be guilty of it when I was younger that there's a tendency to conflate length with quality.
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gradenko_2000 posted:1. FATAL is 1200 pages long? That was the most shocking, spit-take-iest thing to come out of the latest System Mastery. Seriously, what the poo poo? Heck, I don't actually know. That might be hyperbole. I know it's unreasonably big.
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