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I mean, I haven't seen the entire episode yet, but Christian forensic lady is going to end up in Lucifer's bed isn't she
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adhuin posted:Yeah. That version of All along the watchtowers was really nice. It was great. His voice is just different for that song and sounds great to me. Solid start episode to the season.
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Sep 20, 2016 18:27
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I've missed this show. I'm looking forward to seeing how the balance of procedural and serial work out this time, and to how far they go with the supernatural.tarlibone posted:And even on principal, when asked a hypothetical question about what she'd do if she could prove God exists, she's like, "what's the point? Then, we wouldn't need faith." I'm fairly confident that no real-world Christian would immediately come to that conclusion. FWIW I've heard something along these lines many times. Remember, she doesn't know that it's not a purely hypothetical question.
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Sep 20, 2016 18:56
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Remember, she doesn't know that it's not a purely hypothetical question. I know. That's why I said she was asked a hypothetical question--from her (the CSI: Satan lady) perspective, it was a purely hypothetical question. She has no reason to believe it's anything but hypothetical. What I want to know is, why can't they just miracle-zap that blood so it looks like ordinary human blood? You telling me that Gosh can't just wink His eye and twiddle his nose or something, and that blood comes up all normal on the tests?
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Sep 20, 2016 19:11
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Well, considering you apparently need a body to jump into when you leave hell (or heaven too, maybe), maybe it will just come up as human blood since the guy Lucifer hopped into was human.
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Sep 20, 2016 19:29
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Well, considering you apparently need a body to jump into when you leave hell (or heaven too, maybe), maybe it will just come up as human blood since the guy Lucifer hopped into was human. Amenadiel seems pretty worried about the blood, though. I think the divine and demonic can just transubstantiate or whatever.
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Sep 20, 2016 19:45
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Well, considering you apparently need a body to jump into when you leave hell (or heaven too, maybe), maybe it will just come up as human blood since the guy Lucifer hopped into was human. I'm only halfway through the episode, but they have said Lucifers mom doesnt have a body, but she isnt an angel or demon. I dont think they've said that Lucifer took a human body. In fact, that wouldnt make a lot of sense because of him having to cut off his wings/having the scars from the wings.
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Sep 20, 2016 19:54
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Yea, the more I thought about that after hitting reply, the more I realized I was off. I think Mom needed a body because she's literally a cosmic god like being, and doesn't HAVE a physical presence. Lucifer and Amenadiel are both rocking the bodies God gave em, same as I'd imagine with Maze.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:41
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That All Along the Watchtower thing was the most obnoxious troll 
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Loving everything so far, except for the bullshit two week wait for the next episode. 
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Sep 20, 2016 21:45
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tarlibone posted:I know. That's why I said she was asked a hypothetical question--from her (the CSI: Satan lady) perspective, it was a purely hypothetical question. She has no reason to believe it's anything but hypothetical. Which means that the way she answered it made sense. Have you really never heard any of "the point of faith is faith" style rhetoric?
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Rappaport posted:That All Along the Watchtower thing was the most obnoxious troll Honestly his overenunciated singing is one of my favourite things in the show. I laughed for probably about 15 straight minutes at his version of "Sinnerman". If they released a "Tom Ellis Overpronounces the hits" album I would buy it day one, no questions asked.
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Sep 20, 2016 21:57
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Which means that the way she answered it made sense. Have you really never heard any of "the point of faith is faith" style rhetoric? Of course I have. But the answer to a direct question like "what if you could prove definitively that there really is a God and a Jesus and a Devil and all that?" is almost always "yes." If you ask about faith and proof, you get the "faith is the proof of things not seen" routine. When you directly ask about whether or not you'd actually prove God's existence if you could by some tangible means--something that scientists would have to acknowledge, for example--then the answer I usually hear is yes. Hell, in my youth, I've heard more preachers and Christian debaters actually claim that they can prove, definitively, that God is real. Of course, much of their proof relies on the Bible, stories from the Bible, or things they consider to be miracles... but they offer this as concrete proof that only a contrarian could possibly deny.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Which means that the way she answered it made sense. Have you really never heard any of "the point of faith is faith" style rhetoric? I've only ever heard it from characters in positions like this though. I've never heard a real Christian say anything like that. It's like the tiredest cliche. It's nit a big deal though I used to it. I was really hoping she'd say "of course I'd test the ultimate hypothesis! I'm a scientist!"
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I didn't mind her response. Faith is a pretty big deal when it comes to God and the Bible. If God were real, he could come down and prove it at anytime. But he wants people to believe without seeing. To believe when it's not safe. That's not an uncommon Christian attitude.
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Snak posted:I've only ever heard it from characters in positions like this though. I've never heard a real Christian say anything like that. It's like the tiredest cliche. Maybe it's that most of the devout Christians I'm friends with are fairly liberal and come from the same Christian college where they did theological philosophy, but I've heard plenty of stuff along those lines.
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SiKboy posted:Honestly his overenunciated singing is one of my favourite things in the show. I laughed for probably about 15 straight minutes at his version of "Sinnerman". If they released a "Tom Ellis Overpronounces the hits" album I would buy it day one, no questions asked. Oh god, me too. Sing to me, sweet Satan!
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My mom is a rather devout christian and shes said that to me 
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Astrofig posted:Sing to me, sweet Satan! Watermelon Daiquiri posted:My mom is a rather devout christian and shes said that to me You are in a weird place with your family, but now I want you to sing to me. 
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TIL most Christians don't want to meet Jesus in case he doesn't live up to their expectations. I know that's not what they said, but it's pretty much equivalent. If you would rather continue to believe in God without proof than have Him make His divine presence known to you, I don't know how else you could interpret it. My biggest complaint about this episode was the lack of the best character: Trixie.
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Chasiubao posted:I mean, I haven't seen the entire episode yet, but Christian forensic lady is going to end up in Lucifer's bed isn't she She's so going to bone Lucifer and figure out he's the real devil because unlike Chole she's not an idiot.
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Sep 24, 2016 15:36
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Snak posted:My biggest complaint about this episode was the lack of the best character: Trixie. If IMDB is accurate she should show up next episode.
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Sep 24, 2016 15:40
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tarlibone posted:Of course I have. But the answer to a direct question like "what if you could prove definitively that there really is a God and a Jesus and a Devil and all that?" is almost always "yes." If you ask about faith and proof, you get the "faith is the proof of things not seen" routine. When you directly ask about whether or not you'd actually prove God's existence if you could by some tangible means--something that scientists would have to acknowledge, for example--then the answer I usually hear is yes. Hell, in my youth, I've heard more preachers and Christian debaters actually claim that they can prove, definitively, that God is real. Chloe is already our Doubting Thomas. CSI's position is perfectly fine. The relationship between evidence and faith is foundational in Christianity and, while not super common today, rejecting evidence in favor of faith is an old theological thought. Her aunt being a nun helps that along since she can get a "wacky" perspective tying into older versions of the faith that are uncommon today.
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It's fine, it's just boring because it's like, the single most common statement made about religion in pop-culture.
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Sep 24, 2016 17:54
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Okay, slapping at his hands to stop him from praying is already pretty hilarious.
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Oct 4, 2016 02:08
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That was a cart full of cheese, wasn't it. This show.
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Oct 4, 2016 02:49
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This show really is at its best when it just has fun with the sheer goofiness of its premise. Kind of loved the smug "I win this round!" look up at the angry sky to end the episode, too. I wonder though: What's up with Amanadiel's wings rotting? A lasting effect from being shanked by a demon's talon-knife thing?
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Oct 4, 2016 03:04
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I just finished this week's episode. Mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Win me back Fox. Win me back.
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Zebulon posted:This show really is at its best when it just has fun with the sheer goofiness of its premise. Kind of loved the smug "I win this round!" look up at the angry sky to end the episode, too. Probably more due to his actions and conduct than anything.
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Eddain posted:Probably more due to his actions and conduct than anything. You're much to smart to be posting on this site.
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Eddain posted:Probably more due to his actions and conduct than anything. Should have used protection when he was boinking Maze. Probably some weird demonic STI 
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Tricia Helfer has still got it, though it's sad that everything she's done since BSG has gotten cancelled or not ordered to a full series (Ascension). I always thought she would have been a better Cersei than Headey since they were both up for the part.
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Eddain posted:Probably more due to his actions and conduct than anything. A very good point. They made such a huge deal about the demon daggers before that they came to mind at first when they showed the rotting wings.
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Oct 4, 2016 08:57
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Man this show is so bad. I don't know why I look forward to it every week, but I do.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Tricia Helfer has still got it, though it's sad that everything she's done since BSG has gotten cancelled or not ordered to a full series (Ascension). I always thought she would have been a better Cersei than Headey since they were both up for the part. 42, such a babe.
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Oct 4, 2016 10:03
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I love how excited Lucifer always gets at discovering cocaine.
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Oct 4, 2016 13:36
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Astrofig posted:I love how excited Lucifer always gets at discovering cocaine. Similarly, "mum"'s first sip of whiskey seemed to delight her in all the right places. This season is starting out fantastic.
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This was a surprisingly good episode given how badly it started. That stuff with Lucifer being all embarrassed about seeing his mother's borrowed human body naked was really dumb.
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Apparently he ad libbed the whole "stealing a brick of coke" part Personally I loved the episode. Next weeks look a little bit weird though...
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I'm just glad that all of the obvious ways that Amenadiel was being even worse than Lucifer in the first season has come back to bite him. I was afraid they wouldn't address his "sins". Lucifer is behaving exactly as God expects, but Amenadiel is supposed to be better than that. He was lying, cheating, manipulating, and eventually loving a demon. Now he must atone. The first step was apologizing to Lucifer's therapist. Also, really glad to see his character come to understand Lucifer better and grudgingly accept him as he is, especially when they were hunting down mom. The only character who doesn't evolve is Lucifer and that's part of his charm. Even Maze is growing as a person / demon. Also, Mom seems to have "subtle" down whereas her son, Lucifer is all about being blatant. I still do not trust her or anything she says. Edit: I was so in to the episode and enjoying it then I was totally shocked when Chloe was on the screen interrogating her daughter. I realized that the show would be just fine without Chloe. The adventures of Lucifer and Amenadiel would be fine.
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