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lifts cats over head posted:I wonder if HBO uses the same team to create all of their opening credits now. The last few shows I've watched, or at least seen the credits to, have been amazing. One of the first things my girlfriend said when watching this show was "You can always tell it's an HBO show because of the credits!" Xealot posted:HBO uses Elastic for most of their flagship shows, which they again did with Westworld. (Elastic also did Game of Thrones, True Detective, Deadwood, Carnivale, and The Leftovers. Outside HBO, they did Daredevil, Luke Cage, Halt and Catch Fire, and Man in the High Castle, so basically they're the loving best.) Huh, cool
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Phi230 posted:No squibs. The guns fire projectiles. There was a hole in the A GROWIN BOY robot I liked the boss lady being like "gently caress no that thing isn't going back into rotation" after they shut it off. That, combined with the security officers taking every situation seriously and being armed, make me like that so far there are people being reasonable and not making stupid decisions.
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Oct 6, 2016 00:23
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Codependent Poster posted:I liked the boss lady being like "gently caress no that thing isn't going back into rotation" after they shut it off. That, combined with the security officers taking every situation seriously and being armed, make me like that so far there are people being reasonable and not making stupid decisions. From the very beginning, when she was sending security down to check on a glitch she was telling the programmer that if it isn't fixed immediately upon his arrival, security gets to do whatever they think is necessary.
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Oct 6, 2016 00:27
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theflyingexecutive posted:Right, that's the question. If you're on team "not the same ship", how much change does it take until something is new? The smallest perceivable amount of time. What time is it? Are you the same person that you were a second ago? No, you're a second older. The question should be, "When does the amount of change have a noticeable effect upon the subject undergoing it?" The answer is, it varies.
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Oct 6, 2016 00:28
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Pissflaps posted:Are you talking about Newton or my wife? I probably don't know your wife. But yeah, I think any girlfriend I've had would be upset about me loving a robot. But I'm not in the depraved upper class like the guy who killed the bank robber and his wife who got hot over the dying albino, so what do I know.
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Oct 6, 2016 00:30
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Not to get all TFR, but one thing I noticed with the security team was that their guns appeared to be smaller caliber, sub machine guns, designed for accuracy through quantity. Maybe when robots go bad, they don't stick to normal human speeds? It makes me think of Miracle Boy from the Miracleman series...
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I do also really appreciate that everyone but Hopkins is constantly worried about the threat that the hosts pose
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Oct 6, 2016 00:32
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Movie Hammond was pretty keen on his pets. Book Hammond just cared about the investment.
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Oct 6, 2016 00:35
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At some point that supreme badass lady host from the robbery will be given a real gun, and poo poo will be real. At a later point, the host rebellion will attempt to unlock that level of skill and reflexes in ALL hosts, and poo poo will be realer yet. I imagine there is some kind of software used to design the hosts, and she had the GUNS slider pushed to 100.
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Lack of Gravitas posted:tbh if some little kid came up and said this to me I'd act the same way she did. That's good, that's good, I'm glad to hear that. Tell me, LoG, have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?
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Come to think of it, Book Wu wanted to roll back the animals to make them slower, pointing out that they weren't really dinosaurs anyway because they'd played around and skipped much of their DNA, all for the benefit of the guests. If anyone hasn't read the novel version of Jurassic Park they should
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LordThorn posted:At some point that supreme badass lady host from the robbery will be given a real gun, and poo poo will be real. My favorite part was when she pumped like five rounds into the same guy, who was being dragged behind the horse!
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Oct 6, 2016 00:40
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Dumb nitpick but for anyone that's ever fired a gun, the absence of recoil is irritating.
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Oct 6, 2016 00:44
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One of the Delos employees is going to have a huge "Told you we should have restrained the ones in storage' moment.
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Trivia posted:Dumb nitpick but for anyone that's ever fired a gun, the absence of recoil is irritating. Apparently they use irl fake ammo, not sure what kind of recoil it has, I'm guessing it's something like an air-rifle
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Krazyface posted:That's good, that's good, I'm glad to hear that. Tell me, LoG, have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Why no, I know things will work out the way they're meant to  ...actually, come to think of it, there was this one time when I was high as gently caress while watching a Tool video...
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MrMojok posted:My favorite part was when she pumped like five rounds into the same guy, who was being dragged behind the horse! For a hot second, I thought that she might be a guest who decided to join Hector's bandit gang- the amount of violence she was committing just seemed very un-robotlike compared to the host-on-host murdering we'd seen up to that point. Plus, the way she had multiple shotguns at the ready so she didn't have to reload seemed like something only a guest would think to do. Then she got wasted by the yahoos, and I realized on a re-watch that the Writer had mentioned beefing up the bloodshed levels to make up for wrapping the storyline earlier than usual.
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Pissflaps posted:My prediction? I think Thandie Newton is a human not a host. That's a clever theory, she does seem to be unique. Maybe she works with the writers, orchestrating events from the inside? Pharmaskittle posted:Yeah, she definitely seems to have more agency and personality than a host, but who knows. Pissflaps posted:Are you talking about Newton or my wife? 
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Yeah, I assume they manipulated things to get as many of the patched hosts into town as possible, so she could gun them all down and they could be examined later. Also, after the massacre, guests in town wouldn't be surprised at how many fewer townie hosts there were around since they'd just seen dozens of them gunned down.
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Oct 6, 2016 01:10
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This show is Brilliant. The fake out at the start was amazing. While I'd like to think that Ed Harris is a deranged power gamer, I have a feeling that he is either an "upper management" guest or host carrying out the desires of upper management. I also have a feeling that the original dadbot lost it with the update, not because he was recalling his cannibal prose, but because one of his core programmings is to protect his daughter and he has spent the last 10 years watching her get mutilated, killed and raped over and over and over.  The update brought those memories out from beyond the pale and so he lost it. Bert Roberge posted:The singularity that kills humanity will probably be snuff porn androids that gain sentience. 
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I'm re-watching the premier and noticed the voice over at the beginning directed at Dolores sounds more like the lead programmer than the security guy eventually see deliver those lines. Anybody else notice this or am I just mistaken? Edit: Actually the two sound eerily similar. Also the part where the prostitute tells Teddy "You're new, hardly a rind on you" had a whole different meaning. lifts cats over head fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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lifts cats over head posted:I'm re-watching the premier and noticed the voice over at the beginning directed at Dolores sounds more like the lead programmer than the security guy eventually see deliver those lines. Anybody else notice this or am I just mistaken? You are not mistaken. This is not Delores' first rodeo.
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lifts cats over head posted:I'm re-watching the premier and noticed the voice over at the beginning directed at Dolores sounds more like the lead programmer than the security guy eventually see deliver those lines. Anybody else notice this or am I just mistaken? You're right, it does sound like the lead programmer guy. Huh. Rougey posted:This show is Brilliant. Yeeep, that's my thinking too.  Super tragic.
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Rougey posted:This show is Brilliant. I think this was very deliberate. His programming and the horrors of humanity all at once.
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Professor Shark posted:I think this was very deliberate. His programming and the horrors of humanity all at once. I agree. Try and imagine having a daughter. I know, drat near impossible for goons. Now imagine 30 years of blissful ignorance. Interrupted by 30 years of her constant physical and psychological torture. It was loving deliberate.
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Thandie Newton is not a host. Watch the season sneak preview.
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Codependent Poster posted:I liked the boss lady being like "gently caress no that thing isn't going back into rotation" after they shut it off. That, combined with the security officers taking every situation seriously and being armed, make me like that so far there are people being reasonable and not making stupid decisions. You know, this made me wonder why they didn't just junk all the hosts that they retire? Especially if there was some sign of faulty programming.
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I kinda missed it the first time through, but I'm re-watching and the conversation between the boss lady and the writer guy has a really key part "This place is one thing to the guests, another thing to shareholders, and something completely different to management." He makes the good point that people would probably prefer the robots are more robotic, unless you're truly psychopathic. Its not just Anthony Hopkins who is pushing the limit of the robots, all upper management has some dark ulterior motive.  lead programmer guy seems to want to bring his son back from the dead, and Hopkins mentioned bringing people back from the dead. So they're trying to build a Duncan Ghola, if you're familiar with Dune. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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VendaGoat posted:I agree. That entire scene made me think about BSG and the whole "Humanities children are coming home" thing. Zaphod42 posted:I kinda missed it the first time through, but I'm re-watching and the conversation between the boss lady and the writer guy has a really key part Worst scene of the premiere. Man that was ham-fisted.
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This show is loving great. I am so so glad they didn't use JJ Abrahams style "Mystery box" storytelling because that poo poo is completely played out. They gave up the premise front and center. I really appreciate that. Secondly, all the questions of "Why would they do X instead of a more safe and responsible Y?" are clearly coming from people who've never worked in a vast corporate, blue-chip, environment. Because the answers are always to cut corners, cover their rear end, or meet performance goals. Once in a while you might have someone trying to right but they either get frustrated and stop trying, or get Wells-Fargo'd out of the job. The cold storage scene was especially funny to me because I work in a massive multinational corp, and we have a storage room full of outdated printers that exist to print particular reports that HAVE to be printed and initiated by management in the year loving 2016. Like, the only unrealistic aspect of the show is that the Operations people actually get to call the shots when it comes to how the park operates. In real life that's at least several meetings worth of bullshit where consensus and possible blame gets spread around. And finally to be signed off by a CEO that knows jack of all poo poo about how things operate, and was brought on solely to increase shareholder value.
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Honestly the most unrealistic thing is that the head writer is a man with any kind of power and not just a team of underpaid 20-somethings whose opinions mean jack poo poo.
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MokBa posted:Honestly the most unrealistic thing is that the head writer is a man with any kind of power and not just a team of underpaid 20-somethings whose opinions mean jack poo poo. If this is a future where salaried writers are valued and have a say in corporate governance than my immersion is completely broken. There's fantasy, and then there's un-reality.
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MokBa posted:Honestly the most unrealistic thing is that the head writer is a man with any kind of power and not just a team of underpaid 20-somethings whose opinions mean jack poo poo. He doesn't seem to have much power, he is younger than the other employees, and the boss lady calls him a terrible hack writer. I dunno seems to fit 
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"Would you like to wake up from this dream?" "Yes. I'm terrified." "There's nothing to be afraid of, Dolores, as long as you answer my questions correctly, understand?" "Yes." Can't help but wonder how the interviews would have gone if she'd been instructed to answer the questions truthfully instead.
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Professor Shark posted:One of the first things my girlfriend said when watching this show was "You can always tell it's an HBO show because of the credits!" You can tell it's HBO because it had a plethora of dicks and boobs.
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Strong start for the series, the setting is pretty interesting. Ed Harris character has been to the park so many times that he's either extremely rich or some kind of VIP. I'm thinking that because of the incident 30 years ago he got some kind of lifetime access as compensation (it would explain him trying to investigate the place). I just don't know if management is oblivious to his snooping around, they can probably see/hear everything that is happening and a regular like him would definitely be someone on some watch list. While his killing/raping/etc. is something common, what he's saying to the hosts is suspicious. Miss Mowcher fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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ZZZorcerer posted:Strong start for the series, the setting is pretty interesting. he makes a comment early on saying he paid good money, and as a result wants to see the host fight. This makes me think that he is probably still paying to get in.
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ZZZorcerer posted:Strong start for the series, the setting is pretty interesting. I don't think that you have to assume he is a human. Although unlikely, he could be an undetected "ghost in the machine" who escaped and gained sentience years before. Of course, it would mean that he has to have overridden the host/guest no kill policy
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El Hefe posted:I like the show but I don't understand why it seems like every guest is obsessed with killing. If there were no consequences for you brutalizing and offing your boss, or the people in traffic whom drive badly, would you leave them alive?
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