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cerious posted:Is Digital Deluxe edition a pro buy or should I just preorder the regular? I can't remember if Civ V's version of the bonuses was worth it or not, all I remember was maybe Babylon + Denmark + Spain and some other maps. If it includes something like Gods & Kings eventually I'm down but otherwise I'm a little skeptical if it's worth the extra $20 or not. If there are going to be G&K/BNW level expansions, it isn't going to be in the Deluxe. This isn't a season pass.
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Krazyface posted:They could do the Statue of Liberty, though I understand why they might be reluctant after all the BS over de Medici. If they do this and don't provide the Eiffel Tower as an alternate leader for France it will be such bullshit.
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Uh... the Statue of Liberty was actually born in France? Clearly unfit for the American leader.
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Chin Strap posted:If there are going to be G&K/BNW level expansions, it isn't going to be in the Deluxe. This isn't a season pass. It is though. It includes the first four DLC in a bundle price that you get when they release. I'm not going to buy it because I can just buy the DLC for half price during steam sales and I doubt the $20 is going to have that much of a discount. Though it does come with the soundtrack too, which at least makes it intriguing.
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IcePhoenix posted:It is though. It includes the first four DLC in a bundle price that you get when they release. I'm not going to buy it because I can just buy the DLC for half price during steam sales and I doubt the $20 is going to have that much of a discount. Though it does come with the soundtrack too, which at least makes it intriguing. Exactly, there's nothing in the Deluxe edition that you can't get later, on sale. Except maybe the soundtrack?
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Wacky Delly posted:Exactly, there's nothing in the Deluxe edition that you can't get later, on sale. Except maybe the soundtrack? Yeah, unless you care about the soundtrack, deluxe edition really doesn't do anything. I'd rather buy 3 of the DLCs for $5-6 when they come out than spend $20 now. I'll probably not buy the inevitable map pack until it's available by chance in a humble bundle next year.
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So I've been brain storming ideas for second rulers for civilizations. I base all this off nothing , but random thoughts in my brain. Charles V: Germany Universal Monarch (Charles V): Additional Wildcard policy slot, +7 combat score when defending against attack. Peace of Augsburg (Charles V): Likes when you share a religion with allied city-states, dislikes spreading opposing religion to city-states. Charles the Fifth was the ruler of the Holy Roman Empire at its apex. Under his rule, Spain, the Spanish Netherlanders, Burgundy, the HRE and most of Italy fell under his dominion. Regarded by many as the closest Europe came to being ruled by one monarch, Charles lead the Holy Roman Empire to victory through decades of war against France and the Ottoman Empire. His ability Universal Monarch reflects the military reforms under his rule which modernized the Spanish and HRE Imperial Army through the innovative use of early Pike and Shot formations as well as other government reforms. He gains +1 wildcard slot and gains bonuses to units in defensive wars (a number of wars were wagged to try and dismantle his empire). His A.I Personality is the Peace of Augsburg, Charles was emperor during the Protestant Reformation and had to fight a number of his vassals who took up the Lutheran cause. His A.I likes when you share the same religion as his allied city-states and dislikes it when you spread an opposing religion to those city states. Constantine I: Rome The Great Apostle (Constantine) Holy Sites start with a free building (Usually Shrines) Edict of Milan (Constantine) Likes civilizations that allow religion to spread naturally, dislikes civilizations that use apostles and inquisitors. Constantine temporarily arrested the downward slide the Roman empire entered into at the start of his and Diocletian's reign and instituted a number of direly needed reforms to the Imperial administration. More famously though, he ended the persecutions against Christianity and even would go on to embrace the religion and attempt to resolve theological differences emerging in the newly liberated faith. Constantine's ability The Great Apostle reflects his new religious attitude and the Roman ability to quickly construct around this new identity. His A.I Personality represents the attempted ecumenical attitude he tried to maintain through his rule. His main goal was to try and prevent religious squabbles from disrupting his empire, so as a result, he enjoys when you let religion lay and do its thing and dislikes it when you try and push a religious agenda. Stalin: Russia Five Year Plan (Stalin) Replaces the Industrial District with Industrial Projekt (Grants +1 Production and +1 Science for each resource in city’s border). The International (Stalin): Likes civilizations that share a government with Russia, dislikes civilizations that do not share Russia’s government. Stalin was the Secretary General of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The de-facto dictator of the Soviet Union, Stalin lead his country for more than thirty years. Under his iron rule, Russia and its territories were forced marched through decades of collectivization and industrialization, and by the end of the Second World War, the Soviet Union was one of two super powers left standing. Stalin's ability would be the Five Year Plan, it would replace Russia's special building with the Industrial Projeck, which allows for a rapid boost to production and science in the areas controlled by Russia. This would change Russia's aim to more military or scientific victories. Stalin A.I would be the the International. He would like civs that share his government, and dislike those who do not. I'd either do that or Paranoia and have him randomly pick civs to get along with and those he dislikes. I'll probably brain storm more, I like fiddling around with ideas for civs.
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Hogama posted:Gorgo's Greece does have a different border color, and it was confirmed that both leaders can be in a game at once. If they are guaranteed adjacent starts and can conquer each other's cities without an assimilation penalty that could prove an interesting dynamic.
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IcePhoenix posted:Quill just had one of his spies captured and rather than being destroyed the AI held it hostage and traded it back to him post a vid of this?
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Oct 12, 2016 22:18
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 One more dev stream before launch, tomorrow. Dunno the extent of new material they'll have over the Youtube gang (besides Gorgo), but they are at least sure to have the latest build. And it probably won't matter if they open the Civilopedia this time!
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Clarste posted:Uh... the Statue of Liberty was actually born in France? Clearly unfit for the American leader. there's a statue of liberty in japan, obviously it belongs with hojo
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I misread that for a moment and was like 'holy poo poo launch is tomorrow??' And then reality sunk in.
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I'm actually getting pretty stoked about next Friday. My expectations are still quite tempered but I am really looking forward to playing with the district and civics system. I am cautiously optimistic that this will be fun and good on release.
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Kibbles n Shits posted:I'm actually getting pretty stoked about next Friday. My expectations are still quite tempered but I am really looking forward to playing with the district and civics system. I am cautiously optimistic that this will be fun and good on release. I expect it to be buggy, poorly balanced and with a half-crippled AI but I'll play it anyway. Do we know if diplomacy with the AI will, well, exist in multiplayer this time around? They fixed most of the major issues about Civ V multiplayer over time, but not the part where the AIs never contacted the player(s) about anything which is kind of a major aspect of the game.
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Oct 12, 2016 23:34
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The American leader should be the Eiffel Tower from Versailles casino in Las Vegas
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General Morden posted:post a vid of this? https://clips.twitch.tv/quill18/WanderingHyenaANELE
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https://twitter.com/EdBeach23/status/786309684152168448 Probably just what it means mechanically regarding multiple leaders, but who knows? Maybe he'll toss out some hints for the future.
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That is pretty awesome. I hope I can send spies to rescue my other spies.
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I'm guessing that Ganishka could be another Indian leader.
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Cirofren posted:Any word on if they figured out a way to make "End Turn" take less than half an hour after you reveal the map? Have you turned on quick combat and movement? Otherwise you might need a faster computer.
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Kibbles n Shits posted:I'm actually getting pretty stoked about next Friday. My expectations are still quite tempered but I am really looking forward to playing with the district and civics system. I am cautiously optimistic that this will be fun and good on release. Look at this scrub, just tampering his expectations  . Real pros know the only way to get stoked for a new Civ is to place on it all your hopes of feeling the same sense of wonder you got from experiencing a new game back when you were a kid, before the internet turned you into an over-analyzing cynical rear end in a top hat 
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Rexides posted:Look at this scrub, just tampering his expectations Next weekend is going to be good for fun-havers that like Civilization games.
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Gort posted:We know basically nothing about MP. I'm certain it sucks, but I won't even care until I'm 2000 hours into singe player. Also, modding sucks.
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Khagan posted:If this is the case wouldn't Saracen be a more appropriate name for the civ. As of now the devs are feeding into the Arabia = Islam notion if that's the case. Well, it depends on what you mean when you say 'Arabia'. Nowadays we have a clear picture for what that means, namely, of course, Saudi Arabia, but I think when Civ says 'Arabia', it means 'the primary medieval Islamic caliphates that held Mecca'. The half of the Middle East that you wouldn't consider Persia has spent most of its history generally under one rule - first from about the 600s and 700s as the Caliphates claiming succession to Mohammed, then as the Mamluk Sultanate from the 900s to roughly 1300s, and around then under Ottoman rule until modern history. Saladin's Ayyubid dynasty wasn't techncially that long-lived, but the Mamluk state succeeding from it did hold influence and the main centers of Islam remained prosperous throughout the Middle Ages under them. They weren't technically the Caliphate proper, like the Ottomans actually laid claim to - but the Abbasid Caliphate, after getting their poo poo wrecked by the Mongols, basically crashed with the Mamluks for the next few centuries, and they held Mecca during that time, so they basically might as well have actually been the Caliphate. Really, you'd have Saladin more properly leading the Ayyubids or Mamluks, and go further and say Harun al-Rashid led the Abbasids, and Abu Bakr lead the Rashiduns, but it's not too unreasonable to define him as leading the concept of the Arab-dominated medieval Islamic empire they entitle 'Arabia', since he did, really. I mean I'm more leery of Frederick Barbarossa of Germany, running around with U-Boats. The Holy Roman Empire may have been pretty Germanic but it's such a loving weird and convoluted mess that I think the term 'Germany' doesn't really apply until modern history when the actual, unified Germany we know today happened. Kind of like how Civ won't have Ottoman rulers being the leader of Arabia, they're saying the Ottomans were a different beast altogether. (Similarly, I wouldn't call the Saudis 'Arabia' either in this context, the Saudi Arabia we know so well today is such a radically different thing in every respect except for happening to own Mecca and happening to be Arabic that I'd call Saudi Arabia its own civ.)
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That all boils down to "civilization" being an extremely vague term, especially as used in these games. Edit: India is probably the worst offender of all. It was (is) just as diverse and politically fragmented as Europe. Kassad fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Nobunaga never ruled Japan either: he was just a feudal lord who tried to conquer the country and died before he finished.
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I've long since learned not to pay any kind of attention to how accurately Civilization represents the real world.
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Kanfy posted:I've long since learned not to pay any kind of attention to how accurately Civilization represents the real world. I'm still waiting for the one-time deal contact where Renaissance and earlier leaders flip their poo poo about how the stars are moving and the world is about to end after you research Satellites.
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Prism posted:I misread that for a moment and was like 'holy poo poo launch is tomorrow??' Same 
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RE: Buying Deluxe vs Regular right now. I bought my Deluxe Edition for $63 versus the regular price of $60. I went to IsThereAnyDeal and just kept an eye out for the Deluxe Edition to drop down to a reasonable price. I want to say that the regular version was running roughly $47. I bought mine from Bundle Stars.
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Interview with Christopher Tin. You can hear parts of Sogno di Volare in it.
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https://youtu.be/D_TGGgkCLD8 I don't hear any volare in there at all  . Glad Tin is on the tunes again. Maybe we can end up with another Slamba yetu
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Speaking of, I had forgotten about a lot of cool Civ V tracks until I played it again recently. Field of Poppies for example is one of my favorite Civ war themes for sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8WEaGSSd58
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Little Bitch Man posted:The new theme just sounds like generic civ music so far, I hope I'm wrong when we get to hear the full thing. This new one's not a bad track though, and I'm looking forward to hearing the full thing with the title movie playing and everything.
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Hamlet442 posted:RE: Buying Deluxe vs Regular right now. Unfortunately 2k is not letting anyone do any more pre-order discounts. This is why GMG has to do a "Preorder Civ6 and get 20% off one of these other games!" deal. Eiba posted:It's because, as the composer said in the video, it's eurocentric rather than "Africa-centric" like Baba Yetu. Part of what Baba Yetu so good was that it sounded different, like it was an inclusive mashup of different cultures. Or at least that's how it felt to me. This new one is nice and soaring and epic... but pure European, which is indeed way more generic for this setting, and what all of the forgettable Civ V title music aimed for. Baba Yetu is the Christian "Lords Prayer" translated into Swahili by a Asian-American(forget whether Chinese or Japanese, I think Chinese) immigrant. It is a very inclusive mashup of cultures. Khisanth Magus fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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I always liked the cradle of civilization to crescendo of modernity that Baba Yetu presented. You could imagine a humble tribe spreading across the globe and unto the very bosom of heaven.
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