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EightAce posted:However you have the beautiful and fiesty commanding officer to help you out , as you unravel the betrayal.. What a terrible ambush. Thank God Sandi is here to save the day. What would we do without her?
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https://twitter.com/a_tasty_avocado/status/786937522446303232
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 15:55 |
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getsome posted:Lucrative in the context of streaming, I don't mean obbjectively lucrative where money is concerned, I mean subscribers, attention and luv. What're you talking about. You think wtf is enjoying himself, you obviously haven't seen his show, that man either hates himself something fierce, or he's getting paid (and hates himself something fierce). I know SC fans are sad, but would idiots like INN force themselves to do literal hours of non-content every week without pay? Well, maybe, but I think it's slightly more likely they get paid.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:01 |
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:What're you talking about. You think wtf is enjoying himself, you obviously haven't seen his show, that man either hates himself something fierce, or he's getting paid (and hates himself something fierce). I think IIN totally saw this as their opportunity to get in on the ground floor and have it become a viable career, they must feel pretty pissed off at how poo poo it's all turned out, while they cling to that dream
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:04 |
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Wow the fans are getting shafted even harder than usual... Maybe CIG is really a hyper advanced market research think tank. They are trying to find the precise breaking point of the whale demo. $125m will seem a pittance next to the value of the information that is derived from these studies.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:05 |
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his nibs posted:Santaball is back.. kinda So, we've talked a lot over the ...... time.... of the months... about sataball... (Don't say years, Don't say years, Don't say years, Don't say years, ) ...time... (good save, brain)
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:10 |
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peter gabriel posted:I think IIN totally saw this as their opportunity to get in on the ground floor and have it become a viable career, they must feel pretty pissed off at how poo poo it's all turned out, while they cling to that dream They got their looks and youth at least!
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:10 |
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I don't think I read this the way I was supposed to read this but I'm pretty sure my way is correct.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:11 |
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Will people never learn?
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:13 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Even better, they have literal 19th century racist caricature posters about Holy living gently caress what's wrong with these people?
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:13 |
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getsome posted:Lucrative in the context of streaming, I don't mean obbjectively lucrative where money is concerned, I mean subscribers, attention and luv. Just posting to calibrate everyone's idea of what people make from streaming or posting videos on Youtube. It's rare to get one of the more popular persons on record about how much they actually make, and I'm talking about the Youtube people who get a million+ views per video. But they do make vague references about it here and there. Everything I've gathered from them indicates you get about $1 per thousand views on a monetized video of moderate length. I've heard references to as high as ~$1.30, and as low as $0.40 per thousand views. There are all kinds of complicating factors, such as if you have an above average number of viewers who adblock, how long the video is, how much time each individual viewer actually watches. Then Patreon, and Twitch subscriptions would be a little more income on top of that. Even the more popular Star Citizen streamers and Youtubers only just get into the triple digits. They'd be getting enough money to buy a lunch off the dollar menu. Any person who appears to be making SC media content like their income depends on it, is either a total fanatic, or getting paid. The photo from a couple days ago of that Wolf Larsen (internet marketing guy known to be contracting with CIG), hanging out with all the INN crew, is evidence of this. I don't know how the FTC hasn't hit any of these people for undisclosed sponsorships yet.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:14 |
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Raskolnikov posted:I wish Civ6 was out now. Painful to wait. Love the Sean Bean narration. New theme sounds really cool. Love the unstacked cities. I am thinking of buying the full Civ completionist pack to bide the time. Also subscribing to the VIP Civ VI chat channel, which allows me to see a live feed of Christopher Tin's home. I bought some capital city flair for my throne room. They haven't announced a throne room yet, but I know what they are up to! * * Oh wait, I'm just gonna buy it on steam when it comes out, DL it in about 20 min, and play it a bunch. I must have been thinking of something else.
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XK posted:There are all kinds of complicating factors, such as if you have an above average number of viewers who adblock, how long the video is, how much time each individual viewer actually watches. Then Patreon, and Twitch subscriptions would be a little more income on top of that. You also have to add the fact that EVERY ONE of the big youtube names is being managed by an entertainment network and have to pay fairly large royalties to that company in exchange for the advertising those companies give them.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:18 |
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If you're into spending money on hype, propping up your expectations with ~dreams~, and then watching it all evaporate, check out Star Citizen! * * Don't forget to <<use>> my referral code.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:19 |
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The proof that SC streamers are being paid by CIG is that they play Star Citizen every day. Nobody would do that without significant compensation. Not even the true believers play Star Citizen.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:22 |
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The FTC haven't investigated CIG yet because even they know it won't be released.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:24 |
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The FTC can't do anything because CIG doesn't provide a good or service to regulate.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:25 |
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Wise Learned Man posted:The proof that SC streamers are being paid by CIG is that they play Star Citizen every day. Nobody would do that without significant compensation. Not even the true believers play Star Citizen. Not even Chris Roberts plays Star Citizen, and he is getting paid for it.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:26 |
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TheAgent posted:that video is every "I have an idea for an awesome video game, I just need programmers and artists" thread ever created lol, I love these kind of 'ideas guys'. "I have this great idea for a building, it's amazing. I just need some architects, civil planners and engineers. Maybe some interior decorators to finish it off. I should be hired for my awesome building idea. Maybe some materials guys to invent some new materials capable of supporting this piece here." Some people will never realise that ideas are not valuable in this world. Distilling difficult ideas into a something useful or fun, and then implementing said ideas in the real world with all the limits that budget and market impose is extremely valuable, however.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:26 |
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Wise Learned Man posted:The proof that SC streamers are being paid by CIG is that they play Star Citizen every day. Nobody would do that without significant compensation. Not even the true believers play Star Citizen. Yeah if you were simply looking to earn a living off Youtube you wouldn't play SC, you'd go for something mega popular. This coupled with how miserable they look makes me think they are being subsidised at least.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:26 |
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Oleyo posted:lol, I love these kind of 'ideas guys'. They are the 'I'll make the wiki!' guys of the project, problem is, they are all those guys
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:27 |
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At the height of SC's popularity this year, 2.4, from the start of 2.4 to 2.5 Arena Commander had just over 400 accounts complete a match. We know this because the leaderboard records everyone who finishes a match so you can just look at how big the leaderboard is which reset every patch. 1.5 million strong.
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Raskolnikov posted:Is there an after? I am racking my brain here just trying to figure out how there is a before and (an after?) and how that might improve things. I am not seeing how any of it works. I was thinking the same thing. mainly because I have never seen a penis pump advert. Do people still get porn with ads in them?
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:29 |
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Mokinokaro posted:You also have to add the fact that EVERY ONE of the big youtube names is being managed by an entertainment network and have to pay fairly large royalties to that company in exchange for the advertising those companies give them. Yeah, this absolutely true for many of the popular Youtube personalities. I've heard of some of them having brutal contracts in general, even before taking the percentages into account. (I've heard this most about Machinima, which is notorious for having crushing contracts) I've heard of 40%+ being taken off the top. I'm not sure if any of the core group of SC streamers are affiliated with networks. However, their views are so low it's basically irrelevant. Take 40% of some guy's $1.50, it's still poverty income, unless there's money coming in on the side. Even the metric of $1 per thousand views feel generous to me, as sad as that is for anybody who actually relies on that income. When is the last time anyone in here has bought something due to influence of an ad before a video you were trying to watch?
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:31 |
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Lladre posted:I was thinking the same thing. mainly because I have never seen a penis pump advert. Do people still get porn with ads in them? NWS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaJCnMJvV60 NWS
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:31 |
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Brb killing myself
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:33 |
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XK posted:Yeah, this absolutely true for many of the popular Youtube personalities. I've heard of some of them having brutal contracts in general, even before taking the percentages into account. (I've heard this most about Machinima, which is notorious for having crushing contracts) I've heard of 40%+ being taken off the top. I'm not sure if any of the core group of SC streamers are affiliated with networks. However, their views are so low it's basically irrelevant. Take 40% of some guy's $1.50, it's still poverty income, unless there's money coming in on the side. I use adblock. There was a guy whose videos I watched every day and I felt bad and donated 2 bucks. Which is more than double than what he'd have made off me if I had ads on. So win win.
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Ol Cactus Dick posted:Yeah I don't buy the paid shills thing either, that have hundreds of nerds who paid them thousands to do it. Look at the Twitch/Youtube profile of some important streamers like Bored gamers or Noobifier. If you go trough all the video you can pinpoint the exact moment in time where they get the first deposit. The channel suddenly goes from various game review and lets play to 98% SC content with many videos literally using the same "talking points" on different channels. I could understand someone going on a binge when the game is new or maybe during the 2 week after a new patch but to keep 98% of your content on SC even during the weak months of winter when plenty of other games release is rather strange. I mean common, not even a single video about "Overwatch" ? That game moved more units than INN had views trough their lifetime and your not going to even play the free beta ? There is no doubt they have some serious Astro Turfing at work here aleksendr fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Oct 14, 2016 |
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TheLightPurges posted:The FTC can't do anything because CIG doesn't provide a good or service to regulate. This will potentially be the first example of the FTC regulating dreams.
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I do feel bad for a lot of those twitch streamers and youtubers who think they are going to make it big, because I don't care how much you love video games it's got to be draining to spend that much time in front of a camera. I worked at the college radio station a little bit when I was in undergrad and even a 1 or 2 hour show was exhausting. Some of those twitch people got so lucky though. It hurts me to even think about how much people like lirik/summit make. I'm sure they pay a ton in taxes and they work 6 days a week, but with ~10k subscribers they must be taking in at least 20k a month.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:41 |
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I wasn't ready for that.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:47 |
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scrubs season six posted:I wish when I was a teen my dad had turned our basement into a Tetris level or some poo poo. "Dad, what are you doing?" "I just need the long piece and it will all make sense.... do you have the long piece?! WHERE IS IT?!"
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:50 |
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But the streamers make money from donations too, which could be paid by cig.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:51 |
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trucutru posted:I must recognize that the spit of the game into SQ42 and SC was a stroke of genius? lol. Like an actual shell game. Where is the content...under this one? Nope, *wink* try again! This one? ...nope! you are bad at guessing!
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:52 |
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TheLightPurges posted:At the height of SC's popularity this year, 2.4, from the start of 2.4 to 2.5 Arena Commander had just over 400 accounts complete a match. We know this because the leaderboard records everyone who finishes a match so you can just look at how big the leaderboard is which reset every patch. Imgur is being garbage at inlining things, so click this link and imagine he's saying "400". http://imgur.com/gallery/JkwBhkA It's the Joker, in the interrogation room, saying "six".
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:54 |
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Breetai posted:
Wow, this is utterly savage. And yet... deft. I feel like I just watched someone get murdered, but I was impressed with their skill, and couldn't run.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:57 |
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This makes me so angry. Who in their right mind is diappointed by NMS and buys right into SC? I mean, i can get they become excited that theres a spacegame that promises all the things NMS promised but youd think someone who had been buurned once stays away from the fire. But then again, the poeople who do buy in deserve every bit. And the more Jpgs they buy i pity them less.
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# ? Oct 14, 2016 16:57 |
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trucutru posted:TL;DR: I bought a $750 piece of crap and now I am feeling kind of guilty about it. Wouldn't it be great if it was just like *I* want it to be? Do any of the replies remind him that it hasn't been 14 days and he can still get a refund?
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I chuckled, beer.
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crisp roberts posted:This makes me so angry. This is a happy thread, list your ships.
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