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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:The problem is, when Infinitum is being combative town, he's kinda like me. Consistent and focused. you also got hella mad about votes buddy
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Oct 23, 2016 07:58
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i completely forgot about tq tq and infintum before jim i GUESS
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Oct 23, 2016 07:59
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Uh, yeah.. why did he just assume the number of other-than-town factions rather than there being a fewer number of larger ones? He never answered that question.
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Oct 23, 2016 08:08
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Somberbrero posted:i completely forgot about tq
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Oct 23, 2016 08:09
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DickBastardly posted:Uh, yeah.. why did he just assume the number of other-than-town factions rather than there being a fewer number of larger ones? He never answered that question. logic.
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Oct 23, 2016 08:09
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I'm gonna sleep on all this and come back fresh, bright-eyed, bushy tailed, AND SLOSHHAMMERD AS FUUUUUUQ
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Oct 23, 2016 08:10
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Infinitum posted:I would put down actual money that you're really desperate to link me to some conspiracy theory you've just come up with. HE DID GUIS GOD RIGHT HERE!
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Oct 23, 2016 08:10
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Sorry I haven't been participating. I was getting my shine on at the Texas State Fair then I wrote a paper about the process of the dying individual. Who is scum?
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Oct 23, 2016 08:10
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ahaha he said if he had 100% solid set-up info he'd SHARE IT. WHAT? Ok yeah, that's pretty un-town... right?
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Oct 23, 2016 08:14
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Take that as a confirmation I guess. Also I'm only read like the first 11 pages of this thread. I forgot how fast shine games move.
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Oct 23, 2016 08:14
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Jimson how's your dog doing?
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Oct 23, 2016 08:14
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I need to fuckin go to bed, but I feel comfortable with this for now. ##vote Infinitum
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Oct 23, 2016 08:16
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jimson you're my boy remember that
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Oct 23, 2016 08:16
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Jimson how's your dog doing? She's good  She got fleas over the weekend  so we are getting her treated tomorrow. dongsbot9000 posted:jimson you're my boy remember that awh Your my boy too <3
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Oct 23, 2016 08:18
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im going to vote for the first person to start casting aspersions as i feel more comfy w the peaceful and slowly deductive ##vote dongsbot9000 the man looks at me like im fresh canned tuna
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Oct 23, 2016 13:32
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HELLO THREAD I AM CATCHING UP  HERE ARE SOME THOUGHTS FOR YOU MY CHILDREN ------------------------------------------------------------- People throwing shade on me because 'this isn't arsehole town Inf', so this must be cold calculating scum-Inf Shame on you. Since I've come back to Mafia from my break I have been super-chill and non-dickish. I received a PM from Podima before the game started asking me to 'tone down the arseholeishness', which I was planning on anyway. I think all can agree that the tone of my posts has been pretty light and def non-provoking. So if you are making arguements that I must be scum based on that, you're shining more light on you than you are on me. Extremely helpful for me to scum hunt tho  Also it's my bday weekend, so I am chilling the gently caress out and getting drunk as a skunk ------------------------------------------------------------- BottleKnight posted:You're just My purpose was that I went out for my bday and I'm still pretty much still three sheets to the wind here and wanted a reference point when I got back. Also my scumdar is pinging you pretttttttttttttty hard, but I don't have enough to go on. I'm keeping my eye on you mister. ------------------------------------------------------------- JimsonTheBetrayer posted:The problem is. In those scum games? He was making an EFFORT to post like that. Talking about it in the scumdocs. Clearing every post he makes with us ahead of time. Which also makes me think he has a veteran player in the scumdoc with us BUT that's only because of the 2 games I played with him. This is bad with the whole 'us' thing. Not sure if Jimbo is scum, but he definitely reads as non-town, as do many of his other posts. Will be keeping my other eye on him. 2 eyes in different directions. Like a lizard. ------------------------------------------------------------- Finding myself agreeing with a lot of stuff Jonathan Fisk is saying. Pinging my towndar for the moment.  -------------------------------------------------------------- Lot of squabbling about stuff Glowku is saying the past few pages. Reading like a town slapfight. Nothing really stands out for me here. -------------------------------------------------------------- Murmur Twin posted:I think Somber's case on Infinitum is the best one out there right now. I can't think of a reason for town Infinitum to (a) know about or (b) care about the number of factions, and the way he reacted when pressed on it felt unnaturally defensive. I always care about setup spec. I always make cases based around setup spec. It is one of the primary ways I play mafia and part of my meta as a town player. I love gaming the system, as was shown in El Dorado 3 Mafia where I correctly predicted scum based on zone movements. MY THIRD EYE IS UPON THEE MURMUR TWIN -------------------------------------------------------------- JimsonTheBetrayer posted:The problem is, when Infinitum is being combative town, he's kinda like me. Consistent and focused. It's my bday weekend. It's my actual birthday tomorrow, so I won't be 100% on deck Today I was out with family getting drunk I'm not purposely being distant. I'm just unfocused cause I'm getting drunk as gently caress boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii -------------------------------------------------------------- DickBastardly posted:ahaha he said if he had 100% solid set-up info he'd SHARE IT. WHAT? Ok yeah, that's pretty un-town... right? If I was an Oracle, or whatever the gently caress it's called where you're provided setup info in your roledoc, I'd be providing it. Legit no reason to hide it. My 'setup info' is based on the fact I've played in both previous Shine games, and logic. Also you are pinging the gently caress out of me with a few of your other posts. MY 4TH EYEeEEeeeeeeeeee Luckily for you my attention is elsewhere for the moment...
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Oct 23, 2016 13:46
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Now time for my actual case! For my actual D1 non-joke vote, I'm going to ##vote zimbomonkey He shows all the hallmarks of a lazy scum player trying to hide in between posts without actually saying anything of value. To provide some context earlier on there was a relatively big voter push on myself, and the previous 3 votes in order were: quote:
While CPig's is definitely a Not-A-Good-Vote™, and KBs was no effort, Izzhov at least provides some reasoning behind his vote. It's D1. Hard to pick a target. I get that. But then you have ZM's vote immediately afterwards. zimbomonkey posted:yeah that's enough for me What is this vote? What is 'enough' for him to satisfy this vote? He's not agreeing with a case. He's not providing context. It's.. nothing. I'll tell you what it is though. Lazy. Opportunistic. A pure out and out 'Me-2' vote. The hallmarks of newbie scum player. And you'll say to me, "Well maybe he's going along with the flow of the other votes to see what pops up Inf" But then I refer you to the very next post he makes. Does he add anything to the conversation? Does he make a joke? No. His very next post* comes after Jimson makes a potential scumslip zimbomonkey posted:Holy loving poo poo that scumslip AGAIN. Lazy. Opportunistic. A pure out and out 'Me-2' vote No extrapolation of his though process. No analysis of Jimson's posts up until that point to solidify his vote. A few pages later, in which arguments revolve around Glowku for a bit, the conversation turns back to Jimson: zimbomonkey posted:I'm not sure what else to say about jimson. he literally slipped out that he was part of a scumdoc and then tried to turn that into a town thing to do. I've not played a lot of these games, true, but I've never seen a townie say "us" when referencing scum. For that matter I've never seen scum do it either. Finally we see some points getting made, however they're all incredibly flimsy and while I agree Jimson reads as non-town it's the manner in which ZM presents the arguement that raises my eyebrow further. Noone is asking anything of ZM at this point, but he feels the need to defend his vote with "I voted accordingly" It's weird phrasing in context, and something I definitely don't see in town-aligned player. It's like he's responding to a question noones asked yet, which was to justify his vote on Jimson. Eventually he unvotes because he groks Jimsons logic for some reason, but I feel the damage has been done at this point zimbomonkey posted:I can't bring myself to push a lynch on a guy that typed one word wrong during a tough day. Oh wow. You can't bring yourself to push a case now that your flimsy logic has fallen apart scumbo? You can't find it in your heart of hearts?  (There's your dickish town-inf for the evening) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tl;dr My scumdar has pinging quite a few people thus far, but none stand out more than Zimbomonkey. Lazy. Opportunistic. A pure out and out 'Me-2' style voter. Likening to hiding in the shadows behind half-arsed arguements. The hallmarks of a lazy newbie scumbo. ##vote zimbomonkey
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Oct 23, 2016 13:47
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k i dont want to vote w/ infi so maybe i dont like zimb ne more
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Oct 23, 2016 14:07
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zimbs first post about infi is the worst he posts like 3 para about why infi sux but its just a rehash of previous pts w/ no vote at the end feels like a beginner scum move; "scum hunt" w/o saying anything
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Oct 23, 2016 14:08
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It's late. It just turned Oct 24 here in Australia. It's my actual bday now. I'm getting drunk. I will attempt to answer any questions posed to me, but I won't be casing anyone for the moment. I've made, I feel, a solid case for zimbomonkey as the D1 lynch candidate. I will be back on deck in a fuller capacity in 24 hours time.
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Oct 23, 2016 14:09
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DickBastardly and Murmur Twin are pinging me hard as well. Murmur Twin because he knows my play style, so he's striking me as non-town. DickBastardly for a bunch of his posts, and is striking me as scum. INFINITUM OUT
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Oct 23, 2016 14:12
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"Here's a list of scummy players" *List people who attack me*
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Oct 23, 2016 14:25
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Oct 23, 2016 14:27
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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:Clearing every post he makes with us ahead of time. Which also makes me think he has a veteran player in the scumdoc with*** him*** BUT that's only because of the 2 games I played with him Why didn't you just say this in the beginning? ##unvote jimsonthebetrayer The main reason I voted you was because you just brushed it off with "it's obvious what I meant to say," and other weird stuff I've cited. Plus you got angry at us rather than yourself when you made a slip up. Both of those things made me wary of working with you. Maybe take a deep breath every once in a while would make you enjoy the game more.
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Oct 23, 2016 15:10
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Murmur Twin posted:This is a lot of words to "me too" an easy case on a typo/scumslip and feels suspicious. It reads like scum making a fake case to me. I can see that. Please note that I was responding to... I think Kashuno stating that people weren't citing any evidence for the Jimson vote. So I collected the evidence and put it all in that post... that's why it comes off as "not saying anything new," I was just trying to re-state things for Kashuno.
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Oct 23, 2016 15:17
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Mafia edit: Forgot to say, "shucks, y'awl, being in this hurr conversation feels like walking around barefoot in a broken glass factory."
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Oct 23, 2016 15:20
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First off, that "scumslip" is bullshit. Nobody "accidentally" mentions that they're part of an active scumdoc in the game they are currently playing. If you believe that, and voted Jimson for THAT sole reason, may the bright flaming eye of Justice, Go'Tse, fall upon you. Secondly, my vote on Jimson was 50% meta and 50% joke. The heightened excitement and activity of the Jimson could be attributed to interest in playing its role, which it claims to have breadcrumbed. As it bounces off the tables (hopefully not breaking them) in its exuberance, it looks suspiciously like a Scumson, because Townson usually quietly wastes away in a dark corner somewhere, pleadingly gazing at other patrons while stretching out its neck for hewing. ##unvote I was initially concerned that chores might be scum, as he has failed to bountifully provide us with meaningless excrement, and while I share his temerity in aligning myself with Infinitum, the case against zimbomonkey is sound. When I am scum (whoa boy look at that loving scumslip guys) I vote and case people in a manner that lacks depth. In a game of 33 players, scum should be able to get away with such folly. Zimbo's mistake was to do so repeatedly. It's good play for the scum, you see. Voting gives you a badge of participation, and it keeps the numbers high enough such that when the deadline comes near, momentum will toss one of our compatriots into the abyss. But if you want second place, or first, the vote must come with rationale, a reason, and zimbo has failed us in that regard. He doesn't deserve second place, or 1st. He deserves 33rd. ##vote zimbo, and let Justice shine on us all!
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Oct 23, 2016 15:21
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Izzhov posted:If Jimson flips town we can immediately vote Glowku based on logic I've repeatedly quoted myself explaining. This is the single worst post in the game and advocates a chain lynch.
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Oct 23, 2016 15:21
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Kashuno posted:This is the single worst post in the game and advocates a chain lynch. Also, town points to Kashuno for pointing out that voting Jimson for the "scumslip" regardless of Jimson's (or even Kashuno's alignment) is scummy as hell.
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Oct 23, 2016 15:25
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I'm not feeling zimbo quite yet iirc he's pretty new? If that's the case and he's in a very large game I can understand his posts. Don't really like infs big post up above there.have been agreeing with Fisk which is very rare. I need to reread BK sometime today because his posting screams scum to me but I can't put a finger on why
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Oct 23, 2016 15:28
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@ Infi The oracle is useful for outing fakeclaims... which only works if the set-up info is a guarded secret until the necessary time for the oracle to claim and debunk said fakeclaim(s). If set-up info is specc'd and put out right in the beginning of the game, I can only see that helping the scum to gain knowledge of what they're up against and to craft their game accordingly. That, coupled with the fact that you were specific about the number's of anti-town teams is what pinged me about you. It wasn't really a general statement like "ok guys, normally a balanced mafia gave has a 1-scum to 2-town ratio which means in a game of 33 we're looking to nab 11 anti-towns." Instead you were like "hmm I think there are 4-5 anti-town teams because that's what my experience and logic tells me". I don't even know how logic plays into knowing more than one third of this game has anti-towns in it, unless you know more than you are saying you do... and if that's the case, it doesn't feel townie of you. poo poo, the town Infi I know said it's hard to be anything but a lazy assjackal D1. You, as town infi, admitted to being a lazy assjackal D1 in another game and are basing your case on the fact that a player is being a lazy assjackal this game.... consistent much?
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Oct 23, 2016 15:28
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Kashuno posted:I'm not feeling zimbo quite yet iirc he's pretty new? If that's the case and he's in a very large game I can understand his posts. Don't really like infs big post up above there.have been agreeing with Fisk which is very rare. I need to reread BK sometime today because his posting screams scum to me but I can't put a finger on why I don't know Jimson or glowku's alignment, but izzhov is advocating a scenario that "guarantees" a lynch of glowku if jimson is town. Unless glowku had a N0 cop (which was not claimed) glowku does not know Jimson's alignment. IF glowku had a N0 cop, THEN glowku would have claimed it, because he would have no reason not to. THEREFORE izzhov is advocating a blind lynch of one party based on a blind lynch of another party and saying it is the best case scenario. If Izzhof CANNOT know that it's the best case scenario for town, Izzhov MUST know that BOTH Jimson and Glowku are not of Izzhov's alignment. THEREFORE, izzhov is SCUM. ##vote izzhov
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Oct 23, 2016 15:38
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Also, town points to Kashuno for pointing out that voting Jimson for the "scumslip" regardless of Jimson's (or even Kashuno's alignment) is scummy as hell. Tobbs, first you get all "may the hammer of justice gently caress you in the arse" over voting Jim for, at the time, a REALLY suss potential scum-slip WHICH YOU ALSO VOTED IN. Now your giving Kash points on something that Kash didn't say which is that the vote for Jim was scummy, when what he clearly was stating was that voting a player based on the chance that the flip could be used to fuel a bandwagon on another player is scummy. I'm pretty sure Kash didn't imply voting someone based on a perceived scumslip was scummy BECAUSE KASH WAS THE FIRST TO VOTE JIM BASED ON THAT SLIP! This just looks like damage control on your part IMO, a bit suss if you ask me.
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Oct 23, 2016 15:39
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DickBastardly posted:Tobbs, first you get all "may the hammer of justice gently caress you in the arse" over voting Jim for, at the time, a REALLY suss potential scum-slip WHICH YOU ALSO VOTED IN. Now your giving Kash points on something that Kash didn't say which is that the vote for Jim was scummy, when what he clearly was stating was that voting a player based on the chance that the flip could be used to fuel a bandwagon on another player is scummy. I'm pretty sure Kash didn't imply voting someone based on a perceived scumslip was scummy BECAUSE KASH WAS THE FIRST TO VOTE JIM BASED ON THAT SLIP! This just looks like damage control on your part IMO, a bit suss if you ask me. Fiiiiiirst of all: LIES. I voted for Jimson many, many hours before he made the "scumslip" and had to read through 7 pages of bullshit before deciding to unvote him. I'll have to re-read Kashuno to see when Kashuno voted him.
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Oct 23, 2016 15:42
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I don't know Jimson or glowku's alignment, but izzhov is advocating a scenario that "guarantees" a lynch of glowku if jimson is town. This is a stretch imo
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Oct 23, 2016 15:44
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Second of all, good point on Kashuno flip-flopping. Minus points for getting caught up in that bullshit parade, but he still retains points for seeing the votes come flying like so many rotten tomatoes and getting suspicious. Momentum like that is very rarely a town push.
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Oct 23, 2016 15:45
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Fiiiiiirst of all: LIES. OK, well.. I should've researched your part in that better. But my second point still stands.
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Oct 23, 2016 15:45
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DickBastardly posted:OK, well.. I should've researched your part in that better. But my second point still stands. "your part in that" being your vote on Jim that is.
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DickBastardly posted:OK, well.. I should've researched your part in that better. But my second point still stands. Look. Look at this post. You don't research players. You case them. You research them if you're planning on pinning something on them tho.
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