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I think when citizens quibble about normal dev dates they are kinda ignoring the elephant. Is it normal to have this little to show after 4 years (or whatever amount of time you've deluded yourself into thinking dev started)? This is triply so for a large project like SC where they have so much to do.
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Nov 3, 2016 14:51
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TheLightPurges posted:I think when citizens quibble about normal dev dates they are kinda ignoring the elephant. "It's normal for games to take 5 years to make". TO MAKE. How normal is it not to have a vertical slice after 5 years?
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Nov 3, 2016 14:53
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Hopper posted:How is it that when Crobberts says "you can definitely expect this by the end of the year" people interpret this as "this will be released by the end of the year" and then call him a liar? All he does is tell the world expecting things is perfectly ok. He's just helping people figure out what they can dream of next, in case they don't dream well on their own. 
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Nov 3, 2016 14:53
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alphabettitouretti posted:
...or which didn't even have a vertical slice. After $130 million in funding 
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Nov 3, 2016 14:54
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Ok dude development TOTALLY started in 2014 whatever man. Do you really see 3 years of development product here? At the rate they're going do you see them even coming close to whatever you have decided is a normal dev time for SC?
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Nov 3, 2016 14:54
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Raskolnikov posted:
Pfft. You're just looking for an e-boyfriend to cyber with, so you can steal our e-besties. It's all about the e-swag with you gamer girlzzz. Seriously, are these people from another planet? Like, a different one from the one I'm on? I want to see them go on a real live non 'e-date', and be a table over so that I can laugh and laugh. e-best friend. Your 'e' best friend doesn't rate as just a regular 'friend'? Do you have any non 'e' relationships? This is like some dystopian nightmare.
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Nov 3, 2016 14:57
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TheLightPurges posted:Ok dude development TOTALLY started in 2014 whatever man. Do you really see 3 years of development product here? At the rate they're going do you see them even coming close to whatever you have decided is a normal dev time for SC? You're behind the times, there has already been an actual honest to god "development didn't start until 2015" on reddit. It won't take long for that to take hold.
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Nov 3, 2016 14:59
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Hopper posted:The flimsy support struts on that chair will break the first time he tries to make his bald naked space commando get up out of the pilot chair and it is instead violently expelled out of the autism chariot into the black, spinning at insane speeds around itself. If he is lucky, he will just hit the floor, if he is unlucky he might even impale himself on one of the sharp metal sticks underneath his chair. There is nothign wrong with the construction of the dudes chair. And like the previous poster said it will be tied to the inputs of the HOTAS. Electric motors are a little bit of a butch to dial in. They will go from 0 to max in a nano second. So you need to smooth out the input.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:07
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spacetoaster posted:Ben had better get smart and cash in on his "fame" right now. Star Citizen will not fade away. Very far from it. It will implode then explode in a majestic sperg tactics way possible.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:12
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peter gabriel posted:Chris Roberts let me finally realise my dream of seeing my nipples burst forth with glorious fountains of fortitude, in space. And for that I will always be thankful. SC contains your precise fetish! No wonder you can endure the game long enough to make us those sweet soothing comedy music videos.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:14
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Going by how the bit coin debacles have been reported. Outside of the small niche community of PC gaming, it is not going to be even mentioned except by the filler sound bites they have during a slow news day.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:15
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Chalks posted:People say this from time to time, but what exactly are you basing this on? No you see CIG is more like Blizzard because
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Nov 3, 2016 15:15
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I must've missed it, but did MoMa chime in on the procedural planet generation rubbish. IIRC he usually bails after the shows and disappears for weeks following any controversy; then only returning when the furor had died down.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:16
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What I find interesting about Moma is that on some level he'd probably admit to himself that Chris Roberts failed to make Star Marine, completely failed, maybe some artwork or assets can be salvaged but they redo those all the time anyway so that doesn't really help. He'll have all kinds of justifications and excuses for why that happened, but ultimately Chris Roberts was in charge. Now CIG are on their second attempt at getting Star Marine out the door, why would anyone sensible expect them to succeed this time with less money, less time and more pressure? Because they said they would? They were pretending Star Marine wasn't even a thing just earlier this year. Moma had $8k in this, maybe not all in one go but over time that's what he's spent on it. He's down to $3.5k now after selling ships and he's expecting Star Marine and 2.6 this year. What I'm curious about is if he'll manage to reach break even point before CIG go bust. Edit to be clear, I'm not picking on moma just because he posts in thread, he's an informed pro-Star Citizen poster in the thread, he actually knows what's going on more than the normal Citizens. AP fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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Nov 3, 2016 15:17
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AP posted:What I find interesting about Moma is that on some level he'd probably admit to himself that Chris Roberts failed to make Star Marine, completely failed, maybe some artwork or assets can be salvaged but they redo those all the time anyway so that doesn't really help. He'll have all kinds of justifications and excuses for why that happened, but ultimately Chris Roberts was in charge. Now CIG are on their second attempt at getting Star Marine out the door, why would anyone sensible expect them to succeed this time with less money, less time and more pressure? Because they said they would? They were pretending Star Marine wasn't even a thing just earlier this year. Indeed. Going from his posts, I have reason to believe that he's probably just as disillusioned as the rest of the rampaging Spergs. But ego (aside from Goons loling their collective asses off) is probably going to prevent him from coming clean and flat out denouncing croberts and the project. Seriously, anyone who - at this moment in time - really believes that CIG has the capability to deliver this project, is delusional. Just wait until SQ42 drops, then PU goes the way of AC, Hangar, SM etc and Spergs find out they paid $10K for a $45 game. The fallout is going to be glorious. $130 loving million. I don't even know how to reconcile that in my math-oriented brain.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:21
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EminusSleepus posted:Star Citizen will not fade away. Very far from it. I really hope you're right. But I think it'll fade as people lose faith and move on. Finally, a few years from now we'll see an update somewhere that says CIG has closed it's doors and we'll all go: "welp, saw this coming" and keep on to playing Titanfall 5 or whatever.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:23
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I love the mental gymnastics required to be actually use the world "develop" in a sentence and not have that period of time actually constitute as development. When a company manufactures a new product, the R&D along with the prototypes don't count as development, you see. They only count from when the factory to make the final product comes on-line. Development usually lasts the time it takes for the materials to pass through the factory, you see. Then they apply to the government for a refund on all the money spent during that 'time', since it didn't really count and it's not real, you see. You see?
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Nov 3, 2016 15:25
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Real real development actually started 6 months from ~~current date~~
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Nov 3, 2016 15:25
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lol if you are still thinking about, making fun of, or especially replying to moma or lazrin at this late date. i havent been following the thread so much because nothings really happened, so i came back to be shocked people still think theyre burning moma. i mean, you ARE burning moma he just doesnt care to the point where it's loving moot i swear to god googlebutt is actually right about this one this is the biggest place on the forums for people to literally troll themselves ONTO people who are actually trolling them... they don't even have to be pro-active, they can just be passive, people will self-own in the pursuit of the ownage. truth is, he already owned himself for 8 grand and we don't even NEED to make fun of him. the damage is already done. this is dereks forum and unlike any of the other forums hes not going to get banned for being a smug jackass noone wants around, hes not listening to your criticisms of the way he's spent his money, he's best to be ignored like, i get it, i tried to gently caress with him for a good long while but it's fuckin pointless and at best a distraction from the real trainwreck
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Nov 3, 2016 15:26
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D_Smart posted:I must've missed it, but did MoMa chime in on the procedural planet generation rubbish. IIRC he usually bails after the shows and disappears for weeks following any controversy; then only returning when the furor had died down. you're behind a bit, they are now streaming the game like youtube videos
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Nov 3, 2016 15:28
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The Titanic posted:It's like an ongoing, slow, Matrix-style train wreck that somehow just keeps getting worse each day. lol, yes this is accurate. Also, I have read every single page* of this thread. Good lord. I have been posting for a little while now, but pretty sporadically, and I am always a day or so behind so... quite forgettable. *lots of skimming , once I got the lay of the land.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:33
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Chalks posted:They seem capable of finishing that aren't video games. Maybe they should change their focus. But that's precisely the problem. Things Crobblers's isn't focused on get finished. Things he focuses on don't.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:35
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Jon Do posted:lol if you are still thinking about, making fun of, or especially replying to moma or lazrin at this late date. 
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Nov 3, 2016 15:36
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orcinus posted:I read this in a David Attenborough voice. Thank you for this. This will now be my prefered interpretation.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:38
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The Titanic posted:It'll be good, wholesome fun that will totally attract women. Especially that bald man avatar! Hell yeah! Sign me right the hell up to be your sugar momma! Sugar MoMA?
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Nov 3, 2016 15:38
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The Titanic posted:First will be a video where the boxes were refactored by subdividing them 6,000 times. Chris doesn't allow for these boxes to be anything less than fidelitous boxes. This being CIG, though, they'll fail to edge loop them, so they'll end up with rounded boxes. Then they'll invent technobabble for the rounded boxes. A few months later, they'll return the original boxes and call that ”TrueEdge 2.0” or something.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:44
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You were promised NOTHING. Best. drat. Space-sim. Ever.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:45
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Dumb mines in space is actually really silly. So Croberts, who was high on putting terrestrial navy poo poo straight into space without too much thinking tells his artist "Naval mines, like the ones they used in WW1. No, keep the spiny mechanical pressure triggers." Just like he did with loving torpedoes. I'm surprised someone talked him out of keeping the propellers on those. First off, this doesn't work because without water, you know exactly where the mines are and you could just destroy them. Furthermore, if the mines have no propulsion system, wouldn't one mine detonation disperse your entire mine field with a little bit of time?
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Nov 3, 2016 15:45
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CrazyTolradi posted:As bad as this can get for Chris, he'll always have a couch to crash on at Ben's place. But that's where the Wing Commander cartoon boxes are.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:47
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Polish Avenger posted:Dumb mines in space is actually really silly. So Croberts, who was high on putting terrestrial navy poo poo straight into space without too much thinking tells his artist "Naval mines, like the ones they used in WW1. No, keep the spiny mechanical pressure triggers." Just like he did with loving torpedoes. I'm surprised someone talked him out of keeping the propellers on those. If one of those mines blew up, they all would as well
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Nov 3, 2016 15:47
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Nov 3, 2016 15:49
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DapperDon posted:I am not sure I have the words for this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBsRUvuvTf8 So, wait, Crobblers, in his infinite wisdom, already made your in-game head and body jerk around when you fly the ship. Will this Stimperical contraption move in concert with those movements, this amplifying them and making what little of the game there is (dogfight) completely unplayable; or, will it move in opposition to those, thus canceling them out and making the game playable?
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Nov 3, 2016 15:50
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D_Smart posted:Indeed. 
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Nov 3, 2016 15:52
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Samizdata posted:...a French club owner getting horribly burnt when his vape battery exploded in his pocket... Am I a horrible person because I thought this was hilarious and laughed a lot? Whelp. Whatchagonna do.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:53
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Polish Avenger posted:Furthermore, if the mines have no propulsion system, wouldn't one mine detonation disperse your entire mine field with a little bit of time?
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Lazrin posted:they'll deliver it. and if they deliver something less, at least they had the balls to try. What balls? Anyone can try to do anything with other people's money. poo poo, pledge to my project and I promise you I will give my best shot at cold fusion.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:56
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orcinus posted:But that's precisely the problem. I wanna see Chris design a polo shirt. Imagine the loving nonsense that he could generate just from that starting point.
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Marching Powder posted:such a dumb gimmick. who could possibly engage in such tedious behavior *reads every word of a 6000 page thread that is 99% stupid bullshit* Brian blessed ranting about Trump voice.
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