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Buzzsaw Roomba
Feb 14, 2012

Christ, what an asshole.

icantfindaname posted:

so what's in the basement?

a scrapbook with the Colonel's secret mix of eleven herbs and spices

Titan Original Recipe

Captain Invictus posted:

Imagine if they mass produced the 3d gear and equipped the soldiers with rifles or grenade launchers.

The people inside the walls wouldn't need titans to conquer the world. They've already got superior technology to anyone else.

3d gear does have its limitations, esp. outside urban areas

but it is interesting to think about how it might match up with the outside world's period tech

Buzzsaw Roomba fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Oct 14, 2016

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MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
To show how Titans are becoming outclassed. Once the coup happened the military was able to learn of a bunch of hidden technology and in a few weeks at most created several powerful anti titan weapons.

At this point the mindless titans are not even really big threats anymore.

Sir Ilpalazzo
Sep 4, 2012
I think it actually is the case that Eren can't fully, properly use the coordinate. He didn't immediately gain the memories of the first king like the other members of the Reiss family did upon taking the power from Grisha.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Sir Ilpalazzo posted:

I think it actually is the case that Eren can't fully, properly use the coordinate. He didn't immediately gain the memories of the first king like the other members of the Reiss family did upon taking the power from Grisha.

He'd have to have royal blood to inherit the memories.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



It's worth remembering that part, about Eren and the memories of the first king. Even after the whole basement info dump, I think we will still have some late twist or surprise in the series using Eren and the memories which he still can't access.

Sub Harrison
May 2, 2013

MonsterEnvy posted:

To show how Titans are becoming outclassed. Once the coup happened the military was able to learn of a bunch of hidden technology and in a few weeks at most created several powerful anti titan weapons.

At this point the mindless titans are not even really big threats anymore.

It still requires a dozen people and optimal landscape to aim the rocket launcher. If you only hit their arms or legs its no good. And when Zeke ordered the titans to attack as a squad during the Castle battle, even the elite SC are taken out.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Schwarzwald posted:

Or fossilized titans.

Titans would have had to be around for hundreds of millions of years in order to become fossil fuel.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Sub Harrison posted:

It still requires a dozen people and optimal landscape to aim the rocket launcher. If you only hit their arms or legs its no good. And when Zeke ordered the titans to attack as a squad during the Castle battle, even the elite SC are taken out.

Yeah but they were being commanded by a shifter. The Mindless ones are still hardly threats at this point.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Fister Roboto posted:

Titans would have had to be around for hundreds of millions of years in order to become fossil fuel.

Through natural geological processes, yes, but it wouldn't be too surprising if there is a way to create fuel through a titan power in a similar fashion to how a titan's hardening power created the walls.

On second thought, though, the resource the Marley state is interested has been featured in this manga since the beginning: it's the same gas that powers the 3d gear.

XENA I LOVE YOU
Sep 11, 2010

Schwarzwald posted:

Through natural geological processes, yes, but it wouldn't be too surprising if there is a way to create fuel through a titan power in a similar fashion to how a titan's hardening power created the walls.

On second thought, though, the resource the Marley state is interested has been featured in this manga since the beginning: it's the same gas that powers the 3d gear.

If it's the 3d gear propellant that would be super dumb.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
can't wait to see a dinosaur titan

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

XENA I LOVE YOU posted:

If it's the 3d gear propellant that would be super dumb.

IIRC, the manga had previously shown hot air balloons, which along with the zeppelin in the last chapter, lead me to believe that it's some form of natural gas.

Has the manga previously discussed how the 3d propellant is collected or manufactured?

XENA I LOVE YOU
Sep 11, 2010

Schwarzwald posted:

IIRC, the manga had previously shown hot air balloons, which along with the zeppelin in the last chapter, lead me to believe that it's some form of natural gas.

Has the manga previously discussed how the 3d propellant is collected or manufactured?

It's more that the 3d gear gas doesn't seem flammable and is probably just magic co2. And if it is flammable then shooting it out of the 3d gear as is means they're pissing away this super important fuel in a comically inefficient way. It would be like if the 3d gear moved by shooting a high pressure stream of gasoline to create thrust.

Sub Harrison
May 2, 2013

It's basically magic but I appreciated the first volume try to give an explanation of how it works.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
lets face it, 3dmg arent very realistic, there just isnt enough pressure energy in a small tank of gas to propel a 60-100kg human across a town. i mean, they were transferring gas from a storage container using a lil siphon. lets just retcon it and say it combusts the gas and uses the energy to power the cables (that itself uses up a shitload of energy) and throws out the byproducts as reaction mass

XENA I LOVE YOU
Sep 11, 2010

Phobophilia posted:

lets face it, 3dmg arent very realistic, there just isnt enough pressure energy in a small tank of gas to propel a 60-100kg human across a town. i mean, they were transferring gas from a storage container using a lil siphon. lets just retcon it and say it combusts the gas and uses the energy to power the cables (that itself uses up a shitload of energy) and throws out the byproducts as reaction mass

I agree that it would make more sense if the 3d gears used anything other than just pressurized gas. But I also don't think the author would overlook having every character be strapped to a bunch of compressed fuel tanks and not once have any of them explode or catch fire until after this reveal.

Monocled Falcon
Oct 30, 2011
In the translation I read, it seemed like it was simple oil, just present on the island in amounts that would dwarf Saudi Arabia. Which I would prefer, myself.

Though having magic steampunk gear like 3dm gear next to conventional ~1920s era tech would be very odd.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless


Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
except, how would they know that this island would have a ridiculous amount of oil? did they prospect it 200 years ago?

also, 3dmg are good against soft unarmored titans, but not really useful in a pitched battle against battalions of soldiers and tanks. maybe the anti-personnel 3dmg would be better at setting ambushes, but you're still going to be completely outnumbered by people on the ground using rifles

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
They also have rifles and powerful pistols of their own, remember. Also, the thunder stakes(?) would likely make short work of tanks as well if they devastate the armored titan so easily.

Sub Harrison
May 2, 2013

I'm guessing theyll upgrade their equipment once they storm bra's village aka their island army base.

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

XENA I LOVE YOU posted:

It's more that the 3d gear gas doesn't seem flammable and is probably just magic co2. And if it is flammable then shooting it out of the 3d gear as is means they're pissing away this super important fuel in a comically inefficient way. It would be like if the 3d gear moved by shooting a high pressure stream of gasoline to create thrust.

It would be like if there were a rare, non-renewable resource of strategic importance that people used to inflate party balloons and make their voices sound funny.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Spoilers are out and I really want to hear opinions about Grisha Jaeger literally having his dick cut off being a thing that has happened in hit manga Attack on Titan

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Was it gratuitous or done in a tasteful and artistic way?

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

MeLKoR posted:

Was it gratuitous or done in a tasteful and artistic way?

This being Attack on Titan it was done with dignity and res-

:nms:http://i.imgur.com/n0PginC.jpg:nms:

Somebody fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Nov 5, 2016

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer
Well, he got better.

Xun
Apr 25, 2010

rip dilz

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




Suddenly all the "it's going to be Grisha's porn in the basement" jokes seem pretty cruel

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.

Say Nothing posted:

I'm on the side of whoever is against the Nazis, which may be Zeke at this point.

It's neither. The Nazis come in after the timeskip in Attack on Titan: Part II.

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


TheKingofSprings posted:

This being Attack on Titan it was done with dignity and res-

:nms:http://i.imgur.com/n0PginC.jpg:nms:

NWS stuff should go in a link, not just spoiler tags and smilies, thanks King of Springs!

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

did becoming a titan fix his dick and thats how he managed to father eren?

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Matoi Ryuko posted:

NWS stuff should go in a link, not just spoiler tags and smilies, thanks King of Springs!

Whoops

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Kild posted:

did becoming a titan fix his dick and thats how he managed to father eren?

Presumably, since shifters can regenerate from having most of their brain destroyed. Healing old wounds is child's play compared to what Reiner did.

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.
I don't know anything about what the comic AoT is published in can get away with, nudity-wise, but there's still something vaguely dick-shaped between his legs, so I'm inclined to think Grisha's genitals are shadowed for censorship reasons, not bloodied and missing. Ultimately it doesn't matter either way because even if he was castrated it would just grow back once he became a titan like how all the shifters regain limbs and other extremities.

This concludes my analysis of a dick in a manga.

free basket of chips
Sep 7, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

In It For The Tank posted:

I don't know anything about what the comic AoT is published in can get away with, nudity-wise, but there's still something vaguely dick-shaped between his legs, so I'm inclined to think Grisha's genitals are shadowed for censorship reasons, not bloodied and missing. Ultimately it doesn't matter either way because even if he was castrated it would just grow back once he became a titan like how all the shifters regain limbs and other extremities.

This concludes my analysis of a dick in a manga.

how can i subscribe for more manga dick analysis?

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Shneak posted:

It's neither. The Nazis come in after the timeskip in Attack on Titan: Part II.

I personally think Everybody in AoT Is Nazis at this point, therefore Bert and Reiner were correct and the happy ending would be all of humanity in this manga goes extinct.

Bob Moog sex tape
Aug 26, 2004

Kild posted:

did becoming a titan fix his dick and thats how he managed to father eren?

Who's to say yet if Eren isn't actually adopted from a different (royal) bloodline and maybe Grisha is just a very chill gay dad with no dick.

Sub Harrison
May 2, 2013

nobody's dick is being cut off in a published magazine. It's just shading

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Pretty amazing art misinterpretation, though.

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cuntman.net
Mar 1, 2013

dongs

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