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tbh I would say FF2 is worse than FF3DS, even as a big SaGa fan, but it's a close contest. To the guy experiencing FF for the first time, first, W E L C O M E Second, maybe put IX off for a bit and try VII or VI or V or X or IV DS. IX is one of my favorites in the series, but a lot of its charm is in its little references to classic FF, which will go over your head entirely if you don't have that background.
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Plenty of people, including me, played FF9 as their first and it works pretty well as a stand-alone Fantasy final fantasy.
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The references are pretty opaque and general in theme rather than specifics for FFIX. Even having played the whole series and playing it again very little stuck out to me other than that miserable quest to unlock a song from FF3. The story is dull as dishwater too and all over the place so knowing more FF will only point oh how middling the games pacing is.
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Nov 5, 2016 22:40
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Tae posted:Try playing NES FF1 sometime Dungeons and Dragons: Squaresoft Edition is far better than any version of FF3. It's not even close.
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Nov 5, 2016 22:48
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Forget the other NES games, I would 100% play the NES version of FF1 over FF8 if given the choice.
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i'd rather not play the nes ff1, but the gba one was good (because they pretty much completely changed it from the NES version)
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morallyobjected posted:VIII is a lot of things but it's far from the worst in the series. Also, as much as you can try to Card enemies instead of kill them. Carding gives you AP to learn GF abilities, and you learn various ways to convert cards into items and items into spells. You can play the entire game without earning XP outside of boss fights, but still have 99 Ultimas junctioned to your STR and 99 Curaga junctioned to your HP and have Squall permanently Lionhearting level 10 enemies to death. Do not ever grind levels in 8, only grind Draws. A lot of people have bad experiences with the game by playing it like a normal RPG when it is very very weird. And amazing.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Forget the other NES games, I would 100% play the NES version of FF1 over FF8 if given the choice. So you just admitted you never played the nes version
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Nephzinho posted:Also, as much as you can try to Card enemies instead of kill them. Carding gives you AP to learn GF abilities, and you learn various ways to convert cards into items and items into spells. You can play the entire game without earning XP outside of boss fights, but still have 99 Ultimas junctioned to your STR and 99 Curaga junctioned to your HP and have Squall permanently Lionhearting level 10 enemies to death. Do not ever grind levels in 8, only grind Draws. A lot of people have bad experiences with the game by playing it like a normal RPG when it is very very weird. And amazing. FFVIII was the first RPG I ever played, and I would have been put off the genre completely if I thought every game like this was obtuse and unconventional.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Well you already played the worst one, so things can only go up from here! I'm sorry I didn't see III bolded as the worst one. While it wasn't awful I'm enjoying VIII way more.
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i've never really played a final fantasy before but alwyas wanted to; i picked up world of final fantasy online but in the interim i've decided to play FF6 having never really played a RPG, how do you play these games. are you supposed to just focus on on eenemy at a time or spread attack saround or waht? please help edit: or should i play a different final fantasy? I like games that are easier Empress Brosephine fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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Nov 5, 2016 23:59
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VI is super easy as far as FF games go. Generally focus-fire works best, but there's times you won't want to.
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Nephzinho posted:Also, as much as you can try to Card enemies instead of kill them. Carding gives you AP to learn GF abilities, and you learn various ways to convert cards into items and items into spells. You can play the entire game without earning XP outside of boss fights, but still have 99 Ultimas junctioned to your STR and 99 Curaga junctioned to your HP and have Squall permanently Lionhearting level 10 enemies to death. Do not ever grind levels in 8, only grind Draws. A lot of people have bad experiences with the game by playing it like a normal RPG when it is very very weird. And amazing. on the other hand, you can fight battles as often as they come up and you still will never be too challenged if you set up your junctions well. Carding is really only useful for getting certain items that are best gotten through card mod--less so as a way to avoid experience, because it's not that big a deal if you're not trying to just break the game over your knee
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morallyobjected posted:on the other hand, you can fight battles as often as they come up and you still will never be too challenged if you set up your junctions well. Carding is really only useful for getting certain items that are best gotten through card mod--less so as a way to avoid experience, because it's not that big a deal if you're not trying to just break the game over your knee The fun of 8 is breaking the game over your knee. That and the first time I played it i played it at a friend's house who did the beginning without me so I missed the GF tutorial and we ended up playing through the game until the last boss of disc 3 before realizing why the game was so goddamn hard.
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Cleretic posted:VI is super easy as far as FF games go. thanks yo.
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Sabin and Edgar should be able to AOE every non boss encounter in a single turn.
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SylvainMustach posted:a few questions. Definitely play IX, it's charming and a ton of fun. Also definitely play VII, which is easily one of the most influential JRPGs ever and is still great, if a bit graphically dated. I personally love FFIV, it's earnest, full of character and has my personal favourite soundtrack of the series. Definitely don't play the PSX version on your Vita, play FFIV Complete (the PSP release) which has brilliant redone sprites. FFX/X-2 can be divisive, and the voice acting is a bit rough by today's standards. But the Vita remakes are absolutely brilliantly done, gorgeous to look at and listen to, and I actually enjoyed both games massively more in a portable format. Those are the best bets on Vita IMO. V and VI are awesome too but I think you're better off with an SNES emulator for those, the PSX version with bad load times are just annoying to play.
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SylvainMustach posted:I'm sorry I didn't see III bolded as the worst one. While it wasn't awful I'm enjoying VIII way more.  Also the card minigame in 8 is the best.
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Be wary of the PSN versions of 4-6. I think the FF4 Complete Collection that came out for the PSP is available, if so go with that since it's the definitive 2D version and comes with its lackluster sequel (though if you do end up enjoying the gameplay of FF4 it's worth playing the sequel for more of it). Avoid the PS1 versions of the SNES games since they have bad load times compared to the originals and GBA ports, plus FF5's translation is pretty goofy. The other FF games should be fine on Vita though.
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Tae posted:So you just admitted you never played the nes version The NES version of FF1 is either the first or second video game I ever played, actually. It's more of a statement on how much I really, really hate FF8.
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Mega64 posted:Be wary of the PSN versions of 4-6. I think the FF4 Complete Collection that came out for the PSP is available, if so go with that since it's the definitive 2D version and comes with its lackluster sequel (though if you do end up enjoying the gameplay of FF4 it's worth playing the sequel for more of it). Avoid the PS1 versions of the SNES games since they have bad load times compared to the originals and GBA ports, plus FF5's translation is pretty goofy. There's a team tech in The Golden Girls called Final Fantasy that can only be performed with Cecil, Kain, Rosa, Edge, and Rydia and it owns bones.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:
So good they lifted it wholesale for FF XIV. What the poo poo were they thinking making Tetra Master alongside FFXI then refusing to put it in-game? Played it for a week when my graphics card wasn't up to XI, then never again.
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Grozz Nuy posted:The NES version of FF1 is either the first or second video game I ever played, actually. i think ff1 nes is only good in the context of 1988 or whenever it was released, when it was new and hadn't really been done before
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mandatory lesbian posted:i think ff1 nes is only good in the context of 1988 or whenever it was released, when it was new and hadn't really been done before FF1 challenge runs were still pretty big among my group of friends up until the end of the SNES era since we didn't get FF5 until much later so I don't know that I totally agree with that. It was also from that era of "gently caress you"-style gaming challenge where you had to grind a lot for money and if you weren't careful you'd die on first battle going into some dungeon you didn't know.
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I think NES FFI is interesting because it's probably the most utterly brokeass game that was still successful outside of first-generation Pokemon. It's easily still playable and enjoyable, but it's got half a dozen spells that literally don't do anything and other silliness like that. The GBA version is a genuinely good game, though.
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I'm sure romhacks exist that fix spells like TMPR and SABR but there's not much reason to bother unless you really want to see your lvl 50 Master do 9999dmg to Chaos instead of 'only' 3-4k with a crit after FAST.
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Ff9 has the best story, music, and Vivi. Best game.
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Tired Moritz posted:Ff9 has the best story, music, and Vivi. Best game. FF9 is the most Final Fantasy Final Fantasy.
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Mega64 posted:Be wary of the PSN versions of 4-6. I think the FF4 Complete Collection that came out for the PSP is available, if so go with that since it's the definitive 2D version and comes with its lackluster sequel (though if you do end up enjoying the gameplay of FF4 it's worth playing the sequel for more of it). Avoid the PS1 versions of the SNES games since they have bad load times compared to the originals and GBA ports, plus FF5's translation is pretty goofy. thorsilver posted:Definitely play IX, it's charming and a ton of fun. I was gonna go with the Complete Collection for IV or IX next so both sound solid. X-X2 are on my radar as well. Thanks. I can boot up the wii u for V and VI ( I think they're on the Wii VC?). Also is VII dated in terms of gameplay or just look. I had no idea how blocky that game looked til I started playing viii. But if it handles fine that's no problem. CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:
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V wouldn't be on VC, the SNES version was never released in English.
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SylvainMustach posted:I was gonna go with the Complete Collection for IV or IX next so both sound solid. X-X2 are on my radar as well. Thanks. I can boot up the wii u for V and VI ( I think they're on the Wii VC?). Final Fantasy I through VI are available on Wii U VC... in Japan only. Square-Enix are the worst. Actually, if you have access to a DS Lite or GBA, FF IV through VI were released on GBA and are pretty good. Though again an emulator is better, really, since then you can patch a better-quality version of the soundtrack into FFVI which is really, really worth the effort. quote:Also is VII dated in terms of gameplay or just look. I had no idea how blocky that game looked til I started playing viii. But if it handles fine that's no problem. Just the look, and it's pretty OK really once you get used to the super-blocky character models. The game still plays fine and is kind of a must-play if you want to get into FF, IMO. Many, many people list it as their favourite entry in the series and I think it's still the highest-selling one ever. It's not my favourite personally but it's easily in the top five and I can see why many people consider it their fave.
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AlphaKretin posted:V wouldn't be on VC, the SNES version was never released in English. FFV was released in English on the PSX and GBA. PSX version has load times and is awful, GBA is good except for the music quality.
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Evil Fluffy posted:FFV was released in English on the PSX and GBA. PSX version has load times and is awful, GBA is good except for the music quality. I know?  AlphaKretin posted:V wouldn't be on VC, the SNES version was never released in English. Maybe I should have quoted, but I was on phone, I was specifically responding to this: SylvainMustach posted:V and VI ( I think they're on the Wii VC?).
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Final Fantasy VIII is pretty great for two discs Unfortunately it is a four disc game. It picks up towards the end of Disc 3, Esther is a really good sequence even if the plot by that point has completely gone off the rails.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:tbh I would say FF2 is worse than FF3DS, even as a big SaGa fan, but it's a close contest. The original, buggy NES release of FF2? Sure. The GBA/PSP/iOS remake rules, though.
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CuddlyZombie posted:The original, buggy NES release of FF2? Sure. There's a PSP remake of 2? Is that on the PSN?
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Dawn of souls remakes 1 and 2.
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SylvainMustach posted:There's a PSP remake of 2? Yes there's a PSP remake of 2, I believe it's on PSN, it definitely is in Europe at least. There's also FF Origins on PSX which is also on PSN. Dawn of Souls is a remake of both 1 and 2 on GBA. Dawn of Souls is really good, I personally like the PSP remake more just for the big chunky sprites. Haven't played Origins in ages, but if I remember right its the only remake of old FF on PSX not plagued by terrible load times, but I could be wrong about that.
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thorsilver posted:Yes there's a PSP remake of 2, I believe it's on PSN, it definitely is in Europe at least. There's also FF Origins on PSX which is also on PSN. I don't own it, but I thought people complained about load times for all the PSX ports in Origins/Anthology/etc.
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What the gently caress was that introduction to Shelke? I know there's a thread for WoFF now but everyone must know.
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