Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I'm saying getting specific things highlighted is a pain in the butt because I have clumsy fingers. You have to press and hold a word to highlight the whole word, then drag those dumb blue things to get what you want, and to me they are overly sensitive and a pain in the rear end

I didn't realize "having a physical keyboard made certain things easier for me" was such a controversial opinion :shrug:

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Kelp Me! posted:


I didn't realize "having a physical keyboard made certain things easier for me" was such a controversial opinion :shrug:

BURN!!!!!



Didn't the first iPhone lack copy & paste altogether?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



TotalLossBrain posted:

BURN!!!!!



Didn't the first iPhone lack copy & paste altogether?

Yep. And it lacked being able to develop apps for it as well (let alone installing them)

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
Yeah when the first iPhones came out stuff like my two year old Sony Ericsson P1i outperformed it with stuff like led flash, multitasking, gps. That scroll wheel with the back forth toggles I miss.

The only issue was that Symbian was horrible and apps for that phone cost $40+. There was an app market of sorts, but very spotty and all over the place.

It still sort of worked when I dusted it off in an emergency, just nothing had been updated for it so it was very clunky to use. You could still get your Google account to synch with it with a third party app.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


WebDog posted:

Yeah when the first iPhones came out stuff like my two year old Sony Ericsson P1i outperformed it with stuff like led flash, multitasking, gps. That scroll wheel with the back forth toggles I miss.

That jog wheel needs to make a comeback. It was perfect.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Kelp Me! posted:

I'm saying getting specific things highlighted is a pain in the butt because I have clumsy fingers. You have to press and hold a word to highlight the whole word, then drag those dumb blue things to get what you want, and to me they are overly sensitive and a pain in the rear end

Agreed.

I haven't tried it on my Samsung Galaxy phone, but on my tablet I installed "Hacker's Keyboard" which has arrow keys. I miss being able to use Swype to enter text though. Hacker's Keyboard is good if you are using DOSBox, etc. since you can use function keys and other keys that most Android users don't need.

Edit: I'm running Windows 3.1 in DOSBox on my Galaxy Tab <something>, it's not that easy to use via touch but without having tried a Microsoft Surface I'm pretty sure mine is better.

treiz01
Jan 2, 2008

There is little that makes me happier than taking drugs. Perhaps administering them, designing and carrying out experiments that bend the plane of what we consider reality.

Kelp Me! posted:

I'm saying getting specific things highlighted is a pain in the butt because I have clumsy fingers. You have to press and hold a word to highlight the whole word, then drag those dumb blue things to get what you want, and to me they are overly sensitive and a pain in the rear end

I didn't realize "having a physical keyboard made certain things easier for me" was such a controversial opinion :shrug:

Okay grandpa.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Kelp Me! posted:

I'm saying getting specific things highlighted is a pain in the butt because I have clumsy fingers. You have to press and hold a word to highlight the whole word, then drag those dumb blue things to get what you want, and to me they are overly sensitive and a pain in the rear end

I didn't realize "having a physical keyboard made certain things easier for me" was such a controversial opinion :shrug:

Android has Fleksy which has a sweet text editor if you're a tap typer.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

Kelp Me! posted:

I'm saying getting specific things highlighted is a pain in the butt because I have clumsy fingers. You have to press and hold a word to highlight the whole word, then drag those dumb blue things to get what you want, and to me they are overly sensitive and a pain in the rear end

I didn't realize "having a physical keyboard made certain things easier for me" was such a controversial opinion :shrug:

Whenever I try to highlight some poo poo on SA for quoting or trimming down a quote, I feel like I'm trying to pick up my keys through a drainpipe. You're not alone.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

davidspackage posted:

Whenever I try to highlight some poo poo on SA for quoting or trimming down a quote, I feel like I'm trying to pick up my keys through a drainpipe. You're not alone.

Thirded. It's finicky as poo poo. I've given up, just about, try not to quote anything I'll need to trim until I can get to a computer. I have to assume everyone giving him poo poo is just trolling at this point.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
http://www.xda-developers.com/guide-in-depth-look-at-the-best-android-keyboards/

I'd upload a photo but something fucky is happening with my gallery. On Fleksy there's a little text editing extension you can enable that has select all, copy, paste, cut buttons, and a little cursor position bar you can slide around on.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

AlphaKretin posted:

Thirded. It's finicky as poo poo. I've given up, just about, try not to quote anything I'll need to trim until I can get to a computer. I have to assume everyone giving him poo poo is just trolling at this point.
The iphone is finicky as hell when it comes to copy/pasting and generally moving the cursor around. Android is better in that regard, and if you use SwiftKey you can enable arrow keys in the settings.

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice
Windows Phone keyboard has a virtual nubbin! (And it's definitely failed tech :( )

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
Remember projection keyboards!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0qARDGJj1w

I seem to recall them getting some news around 2004 but amazingly they seem to still exist as a weird novelty. Has anyone used one?

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

WebDog posted:

Remember projection keyboards!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0qARDGJj1w

I seem to recall them getting some news around 2004 but amazingly they seem to still exist as a weird novelty. Has anyone used one?

No tactile feedback, poor "keypress" detection, and it did really poorly if one of your fingers was obscuring another finger when you were typing.

Basically, it something that looked neat but didn't perform for poo poo.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
I bought one from ThinkGeek from before they went to poo poo (yes, that was a real time period).

It was poo poo.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
When'd it go to poo poo? I just looked at them the other day, after not checking the site for...years? And so many things on my wishlist are gone. Such is life.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I got a chance to try a LASER projection keyboard at EPCOT.

I can confirm they were poo poo.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Manuel Calavera posted:

When'd it go to poo poo? I just looked at them the other day, after not checking the site for...years? And so many things on my wishlist are gone. Such is life.

About...2011. Whatever christmas it was they decided to make the tan-tan (taun-taun?) sleeping bag. They went from a "quirky, highbrow hot-topic/geeky desk toy" dealer to a "geeky hot topic/geeky hot topic" dealer.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

SLOSifl posted:

The 3D Touch keyboard navigation on iOS is genius.

Goddamnit, I had no idea about this.

moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!
All of this comparison of virtual and portable keyboard technology is moot when the IBM Model M exists. Perhaps the reason cyberpunk featured people carrying around anachronistic-seeming bulky decks is because those console cowboys knew the importance of an ergonomic and tactile sense of throw and feedback. Instead of the novelty rotary-style iPhone headsets we can just have buckling spring boards strapped to us for text editing on the go.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
What are you waiting for? The iPad (and preusmably iPhone) works with a Lighting to USB converter connected to a USB to PS2 converter connected to an IBM Model M.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Elliotw2 posted:

What are you waiting for? The iPad (and preusmably iPhone) works with a Lighting to USB converter connected to a USB to PS2 converter connected to an IBM Model M.

I have to try this! I have a Model M, while my dad has an iPad and my mom has an iPhone.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I can confirm that connecting a keyboard with a pointing device (e.g. a lenovo keyboard with a trackpoint) to an android phone gives you a working keyboard and a little mouse pointer. Android with a mouse is kind of weird - it's clearly not built for it but it mostly works.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Computer viking posted:

I can confirm that connecting a keyboard with a pointing device (e.g. a lenovo keyboard with a trackpoint) to an android phone gives you a working keyboard and a little mouse pointer. Android with a mouse is kind of weird - it's clearly not built for it but it mostly works.

I use Android mousing all the time; it's actually pretty nice once you get used to the idiosyncrasies. If your mouse has more than three buttons, it also forces your virtual keyboard off, so you have to re-enable that the first time you connect to your Android device.

Mr. Yuk
Apr 1, 2005

In case of accidental ingestion, please consult a mortician.

Manuel Calavera posted:

When'd it go to poo poo? I just looked at them the other day, after not checking the site for...years? And so many things on my wishlist are gone. Such is life.

When they got bought out by GameStop.

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

Nah. Gamestop has only owned them for around a year and a half. They started going to poo poo way before that.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Many years ago I had one of those things you could spin to make writing in the air. Its interface was three identical buttons in a vertical row and I learned how to compose complex sentences with it.

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.
Please excuse the cellphone picture, but I was just now given the wonderfully obsolete Panasonic F15 CCD video camera with 10-150mm TV zoom. Behold, the champion of public access television.



All in working order, I'll probably just use it as a prop unless anyone on here has any tips for making it usable.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Lizard Combatant posted:

Please excuse the cellphone picture, but I was just now given the wonderfully obsolete Panasonic F15 CCD video camera with 10-150mm TV zoom. Behold, the champion of public access television.



All in working order, I'll probably just use it as a prop unless anyone on here has any tips for making it usable.

Wait for the red light to come on and then start loving like crazy.

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

Jerry Cotton posted:

Wait for the red light to come on and then start loving like crazy.

Now that you mention it, there is a tape still in the deck from the previous owner. I should watch that first to see how it's done.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Lizard Combatant posted:

Now that you mention it, there is a tape still in the deck from the previous owner. I should watch that first to see how it's done.

Old school camera AND possible free homegrown porn? CHA-CHING

Or it could be some creepy serial killer's tape, roll the dice and play that fucker

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.
I need to find S video cables first.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Lizard Combatant posted:

I need to find S video cables first.

Nobody has ever said this.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS


I recently acquired a Canon 8‐T sexagesimal calculator.

It can do operations on mixed units of time directly. What’s 44 hours 7 min divided into ninths? Why, it’s 4 h 54 m 6.7 s.

It’s much more convenient than converting everything to seconds, doing the operation, then dividing back into minutes and hours, which I know I’ve done on occasion in the past. I assume spreadsheets are what killed sexagesimal calculators.

The Smithsonian Institution apparently thinks it’s pretty cool, too. They have one in their collection.

My question is: who was this machine marketed to? What professions do or did calculations like this frequently?

One field that comes to mind is time motion studies, but they attacked the problem from the opposite direction, using decimal stopwatches (marked in hundredths of a minute) to ease computation.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Platystemon posted:

My question is: who was this machine marketed to? What professions do or did calculations like this frequently?

Prostitutes.

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Platystemon posted:



I recently acquired a Canon 8‐T sexagesimal calculator.

It can do operations on mixed units of time directly. What’s 44 hours 7 min divided into ninths? Why, it’s 4 h 54 m 6.7 s.

It’s much more convenient than converting everything to seconds, doing the operation, then dividing back into minutes and hours, which I know I’ve done on occasion in the past. I assume spreadsheets are what killed sexagesimal calculators.

The Smithsonian Institution apparently thinks it’s pretty cool, too. They have one in their collection.

My question is: who was this machine marketed to? What professions do or did calculations like this frequently?

One field that comes to mind is time motion studies, but they attacked the problem from the opposite direction, using decimal stopwatches (marked in hundredths of a minute) to ease computation.

I know one use, payroll and timekeeping. At my first job way back the payroll manager had one, not that exact one, but something very similar. She used to read the manual timecards add up the time worked and then punch that into the computer and have it print the checks.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Yeah something like that would be a payroll clerk's dream before the invention of spreadsheets.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

spog posted:

Prostitutes.

Also consultants and lawyers.

So, yes, prostitutes.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

Platystemon posted:



I recently acquired a Canon 8‐T sexagesimal calculator.

It can do operations on mixed units of time directly. What’s 44 hours 7 min divided into ninths? Why, it’s 4 h 54 m 6.7 s.

It’s much more convenient than converting everything to seconds, doing the operation, then dividing back into minutes and hours, which I know I’ve done on occasion in the past. I assume spreadsheets are what killed sexagesimal calculators.

The Smithsonian Institution apparently thinks it’s pretty cool, too. They have one in their collection.

My question is: who was this machine marketed to? What professions do or did calculations like this frequently?

One field that comes to mind is time motion studies, but they attacked the problem from the opposite direction, using decimal stopwatches (marked in hundredths of a minute) to ease computation.

I love the design of this thing, and I'd also love one for work since I deal in time code a lot - but really just because it's so Weyland Yutani looking.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply