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ManofManyAliases posted:Absolutely. We knew or could guesstimate those responses before the events based on very basic information that was already available. Besides, many of the bullets are interrelated. He's got a much better record than any (semi-)official CIG source, why are you being so contrary? Seriously, what makes you so very certain he's the best space games guesser in the whole 'verse and not some random idiot who knows people working in a jpeg farm?
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thatguy posted:I voted Trump as a joke. is that where "Mr. Brexit" originates?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Name one comparable game. games in the same category; large mmos are comparable games. - wildstar - 9 years - teso - 7 years - sw:tor - 6 years - wow - 6 years ... and most in that set are at 5-6 years. star citizen is not even 4 years into development, even if you consider the 2012 crowdfunding campaign the start. And as mentioned, they are developing 2 games simultaneously... trying to unify systems, features, tech, and assets between them. two moving targets. that's a lot of logistical overhead *no* other studios have ever faced. as a new studio without any established pipelines. based on that, yes, i'd say they are right on schedule when stood up against comparable games, not to mention fairly impressive. now... i'll give this - pretty soon it will be harder to make it look like there's progress. up to now, building all of the technical foundational stuff could be relatively nebulous... but that that's the nature of the beast, and progress becomes much more rapid once those pieces are in place. so, if by the end of next year, 3.x isn't fleshed out to the level of a nearly release-complete feature set of mechanics, with adequate iteration and polish (and if s42 doesn't see full retail release) i'll be the first one in line to call bullshit. but it still wouldn't change why i backed.
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Lazrin posted:- Wildstar - 9 years look man I know capitals aren't your thing but it's just disrespectful to the developers when you insist on manhandling their intellectual property.
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Lazrin posted:games in the same category; large mmos are comparable games. lol to all this
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Lazrin posted:i'll be the first one in line to call bullshit. No you won't, you'll be well back with Bopher, Seraph and other untouchables
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Lazrin posted:games in the same category; large mmos are comparable games. …………………./´¯/) ………………..,/¯../ ………………./…./ …………./´¯/’…’/´¯¯`·¸ ………./’/…/…./……./¨¯\ ……..(‘(…´…´…. ¯~/’…’) ………\……………..’…../ ……….”…\………. _.·´ …………\…………..( …………..\………….\…
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Lazrin posted:now... i'll give this - pretty soon it will be harder to make it look like there's progress. Also this is the loving issue you choose to be worried about. Making it look like there's progress.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5bqt46/constructive_suggestion_to_cig_on_how_better/d9r2a5z/ 
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Lazrin posted:Star Citizen - Pretty Soon It Will Be Harder to Make It Look Like There's Progress 
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No one with a brain could see that hangar video of SQ42 after 5 years of development and not want a refund.
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I got two games, one for the spergs and one for the whales.
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Lazrin. may I call you Lazrin? You are a filthy liar. There is no way you are in any software development field. Especially in any position of authority. Your complete inability to articulate your thoughts or make sentences that don't hurt to read, coupled with your ignorance of the most basic software development leads me to believe you are completely full of poo poo. Prove you aren't. You can't. Because you are full of poo poo. And I am an idiot for responding to you. But that's on me.
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Will CIG even still be in business at the end of next year? They need to start hitting some impressive home runs soon if they hope to have any chance of that...
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Lladre posted:Lazrin. may I call you Lazrin? He's in transition, please try to respect that.
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Lack of Gravitas posted:Will CIG even still be in business at the end of next year? They need to start hitting some impressive home runs soon if they hope to have any chance of that... That's what I thought about this time a year ago. But the whales. The whales, man
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Lazrin posted:games in the same category; large mmos are comparable games. You've convinced me mate, I'm sure Chris Roberts is making good use of your $2,000 and the best way to hit back at so called "critics" of the ground breaking work CIG is doing may well be to pick up another couple of ships in the coming sale. Don't back down, stay strong.
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Star Citizen is doing things nobody else has tried, nothing can compare to it  Here's a list of comparable games for the purposes of arguing about development time Hey guys, it's me Lazrin
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it all depends on the next six months if they can get the sqlude out and its well received they might have a shot (lol) but they are absolutely burning through that additional $50m they got and the development budget is back cutting into their marketing budget if people continue to give them $5m a month, it could go on years though
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Lazrin posted:And as mentioned, they are developing 2 games simultaneously... trying to unify systems, features, tech, and assets between them. two moving targets. that's a lot of logistical overhead *no* other studios have ever faced. as a new studio without any established pipelines. 38 Studios. Yea, they failed too.
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@the titanic - take a look at the responses - this is how i know they don't have anything to say when faced with facts, or won't acknowledge when i highlight potential problems. they just make noisesTheAgent posted:if people continue to give them $5m a month, it could go on years though is there anything wrong with that, actually? if those years get them to the finish line?
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Beet Wagon posted:Star Citizen is doing things nobody else has tried, nothing can compare to it
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I would also like an explanation on how fun immersive games (Even the one that pulled the hosed up Deus Ex Machina and made you mad about it) are "soulless". What part about them are soulless? The fun? The immersive story that makes you feel for some npc?
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ManofManyAsses posted:Relax, dude. He's not even that. Prove it.
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ManofManyAliases posted:I haven't played in a month. When I played last, I griefed five ships at grim hex, got my wanted ranking up and camped Kareah until I got bored. those words...those words are B'Tak's words
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Lazrin posted:games in the same category; large mmos are comparable games. None of those games are even remotely close in scope to Star Citizen. All four are massively multiplayer games, but they lack the graphics and level of detail (and subsequently the computation and networking requirements) that Star Citizen apparently demands. At best you can call them the "half the scope" games that Chris Roberts mentioned in his Escapist rant, and that was $40M ago for a project who has explicitly stated that scope is tied to funding. Furthermore you're once again omitting that Chris Roberts himself declared that development started in 2011, and explicitly did as a means of assuaging concerns that the original schedule was too ambitious.
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Lazrin posted:is there anything wrong with that, actually? if those years get them to the finish line? Is this prowler thing poo poo or what? Why don't you want one?
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also just loving  if you don't remember how completely hosed WoW was when it launched.It's a good thing Blizzard had all that goodwill with the community and all that money from previous sales so they could afford to make it not total poo poo later. I wonder how that'll work with CIG...
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Lazrin posted:is there anything wrong with that, actually? if those years get them to the finish line? if you want the game released, stop giving them money so they actually have to release a product
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Lazrin posted:@the titanic - take a look at the responses - this is how i know they don't have anything to say when faced with facts, or won't acknowledge when i highlight potential problems. they just make noises …………………./´¯/) ………………..,/¯../ ………………./…./ …………./´¯/’…’/´¯¯`·¸ ………./’/…/…./……./¨¯\ ……..(‘(…´…´…. ¯~/’…’) ………\……………..’…../ ……….”…\………. _.·´ …………\…………..( …………..\………….\…
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Truga posted:That's what I thought about this time a year ago. But the whales. The whales, man Yeah, but if it turns out true that Ortwin is leaving then things are probably way worse than suspected. Crobbers and Sandi are living the high life and occasionally doing whatever their job description is, but Ortwin is the Hollywood accountant who has nothing to do but watch the real funding meter and shuffle money around the dozens of companies. Well, that and reviewing changes to the ironclad TOS. I can't imagine him leaving unless he thinks his stake is going to worth a lot less sometime soon 
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Lazrin posted:
You're implying that those millions and years may not take them to the finish line. So the answer is yes, it is wrong. If I preorder the latest Souls game, I know that I will receive a souls game of the expected quality (which is pretty drat high) at the expected date. That's fine. When I
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Beet Wagon posted:also just loving When WoW launched I looted a corpse and slid along the ground on my knees over a cliff, good times. You don't see glitches like that in SC, it's just too well made you see
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Lol if you unironically engage lazrin or moma as if they are rational
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Lazrin posted:@the titanic - take a look at the responses - this is how i know they don't have anything to say when faced with facts, or won't acknowledge when i highlight potential problems. they just make noises 38 Studios Kingdoms of Amalur ~ Squadron 42 Project Copernicus ~ Star Citizen
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Lazrin posted:is there anything wrong with that, actually? if those years get them to the finish line? There's nothing wrong with that if those years get them to the finish line. Therefore there is a lot wrong with that.
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Did you see that hangar video? That is what they have after working on this game for FIVE YEARS. There is no finish line. If you still have money in it and aren't insulted by that video then you are RETARDED. 
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Lazrin posted:but it still wouldn't change why i backed. How could it change the reason that you backed?
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