Pussy Cartel posted:

Christ. My American partner and I were gonna get married in a few years once I was done with my PhD. Now I don't know what the gently caress's going to happen.

Artificer posted:

The people used their power to vote in Trump which no corporation or expert or what have you wanted.

Mister Olympus posted:

Hahahahahahaha

They only think it makes more money so long as it looks like public opinion is in their favor. US Corporations didn't care about selling to the Nazis until the US declared war.

The Trump presidency is an announcement that hate is okay for everyone. I'm ready for the entire US infrastructure being pointed directly towards the actual genocide of all of us

MaxxBot posted:

Trump never even says anything bad about gays

Pollyanna posted:

We're at DEFCON 1 here, and no way to deal with it.

Pollyanna posted:

Trump is not who scares me. It's Pence. He's openly anti-LGBT and in power.

Control Volume posted:

Yo gently caress off with this fatalistic poo poo. maybe you can pack up and move away, but Im stuck in this country for the forseeable future, so I am going to be finding ways to deal with it and I dont need people constantly repeating about how its all meaningless anyways hail satan

MaxxBot posted:

People aren't going to suddenly start hating gays because Trump won, especially since Trump never even says anything bad about gays. Things are going to suck in the short term but there's no way the long trend towards LGBT acceptance is going to suddenly reverse itself.

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Holy poo poo that red text

Control Volume posted:

Oh lol I have avatars turned off so I didnt even know. Who is this avatar trying to own anyways, im not smart enough to unravel the layers of irony anymore

Baka-nin posted:

You could all join Unions that have commitments to defend LGBT members from discrimination, I know American Unions have terrible reputations but there's got to be some that aren't. Hell my union the IWW has been very active in adapting to its LGBT members needs over the past couple of years.

ToxicFrog posted:

You're shockingly optimistic here, considering that:
- "gently caress queers" is an explicit plank of the Republican platform, and the legislation that enables that is written by Congress and interpreted by the courts, all of which are now in Republican hands; all Trump has to do is sign it as it crosses his desk, and

Filthy Haiku posted:

So, serious question, I am a trans-woman living in texas who just started transitioning a year ago, i'm losing my marketplace provided insurance at the end of the year. I haven't started on my name or marker changes. How hosed am I?

Vulpes Vvardenfell posted:

"gently caress queers?" I had no idea their platform was so pro-LGBT. Good on the Republicans, for finally coming out of the closet.

EDIT: Yeah I know this is a stupid joke.

A Pale Horse posted:

Trump has been the most LGBT positive republican candidate to date. I would understand this panic if Slime Goblin Ted Cruz has been the candidate but I really don't think Trump has any animus towards the LGBT community, and Vice President is the most toothless position in American politics. I have no doubt that Trump doesn't want to be bothered with the every day minutia of governance but I'm thinking he's going to hand that off more to his personal team of goblins headed by probably Steve Bannon, who is also a huge turd, but not an explicitly anti LGBT one. I have no doubt he'll appoint judges bad for LGBT causes but I think that's as far as Trumps anti-LGBT work goes. Don't forget he's also got "gay traitor" Peter Thiel (who actually did a lot for LGBT causes before everyone started shrieking "traitor" in his face) buzzing in his ear and comes from the New York elite which is piled high with homosexuals. Any republican would have been bad, and Trump is a monster, he's just not a particularly anti-LGBT one so the histrionics probably aren't warranted.

There will be a lot of alt right type trolls crowing about how they're all going to send us to the fabulous gas chambers for a few months though.

Aleph Null posted:

How much of that was from "progressives" not voting for Hillary because she wasn't Bernie?

Ajon posted:

Gorilla Salad posted:

From the picture thread:



Trump didn't win it, Clinton lost it.

A Pale Horse posted:

Trump has been the most LGBT positive republican candidate to date. I would understand this panic if Slime Goblin Ted Cruz has been the candidate but I really don't think Trump has any animus towards the LGBT community, and Vice President is the most toothless position in American politics. I have no doubt that Trump doesn't want to be bothered with the every day minutia of governance but I'm thinking he's going to hand that off more to his personal team of goblins headed by probably Steve Bannon, who is also a huge turd, but not an explicitly anti LGBT one. I have no doubt he'll appoint judges bad for LGBT causes but I think that's as far as Trumps anti-LGBT work goes. Don't forget he's also got "gay traitor" Peter Thiel (who actually did a lot for LGBT causes before everyone started shrieking "traitor" in his face) buzzing in his ear and comes from the New York elite which is piled high with homosexuals. Any republican would have been bad, and Trump is a monster, he's just not a particularly anti-LGBT one so the histrionics probably aren't warranted.

There will be a lot of alt right type trolls crowing about how they're all going to send us to the fabulous gas chambers for a few months though.

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“Pence is no Uncle Joe.His record as governor indicates that he is willing to completely undermine the core values of a free country in order to impose his own vision of theocratic control.

While Donald Trump is a bumbling political idiot, Mike Pence is actively against the people and possibilities that we need to help America to have a strong future. His career has been built on hateful exclusion, not intelligent inclusion.

Here are some things that every voter should know about Mike Pence:

- Science and invention helped build America, but Mike Pence is 100% anti-science. He chooses not to accept the preponderance of evidence that supports anthropomorphic climate change, and he thinks schools should be required to teach Christian “creationism” mythology alongside evolution in science classrooms.

- Mike Pence is anti-environment. As governor, he has vetoed every piece of environmental regulation that has crossed his desk. He doesn’t want the EPA to regulate greenhouse gases, and he does want to open up pretty much every part of our country to oil and coal companies. No more wildlands under Pence. He is one of those irresponsible extremists who think that God gave us the world so we could just use it up, and when it is all used up the second coming will occur. There is no Biblical basis for this belief.

- Females make up more than half of the American population, but Mike Pence is anti-woman. He has said the Disney movie “Mulan,” which was based on a centuries old Chinese poem, was the work of a “mischievous liberal” trying to groom young children to accept women in combat. “Despite her delicate features and voice, Disney expects us to believe that Mulan’s ingenuity and courage were enough to carry her to military success on an equal basis,” he wrote on his radio show’s website.

- He obsessively pursues a personal vendetta to take Title X funding away from Planned Parenthood because Planned Parenthood provides abortion services. Title X money CANNOT be used for abortions. Abortions are paid for by the recipient or through private, tagged donations. Taking away Title X will not impact abortion services, but it would leave thousands of women without access to cancer screenings or birth control.

- Speaking of birth control, Mike Pence once again revealed his historical ignorance in saying that condoms are “modern” and “liberal.” He thinks all women should be pregnant unless they can’t afford a baby, in which case they should abstain from sex, even if they are married. That’s right: sex is only for procreation in PenceWorld. If you can’t afford the diapers, then hubby should be sleeping on the couch.

- Mike Pence is also anti-gay, to the point of denial. He doesn’t want the government to pay for cancer screenings, but he does want the government to pay for abusive “conversion therapy” programs that systematically undermine the victim’s self-esteem, and then indoctrinate them into robotic gender-appropriate behaviors. He has signed into law a bill that allows discrimination against LGTBQ customers based on religious belief.

- As governor of Indiana, Mike Pence was personally responsible for an outbreak of AIDS when he refused to allow clean needle exchanges for drug addicts. Instead, he asked people to pray for the addicts.

- Mike Pence is racist. He thinks there is “too much talk” about institutional racism in law enforcement because “police officers are human beings.” His solution is unity through “faith.” The Indiana governor has tried to prevent Syrian refugees from settling in his state because the “pose a threat to safety of residents.” Pence argued that his policy was based on fear, not race, so it wasn’t discriminatory. A Federal Appeals Court dismissed his racist arguments on October 3, 2016.

- A Federal Court also had to block his bizarre anti-abortion law that required burial or cremation for fetuses, whether miscarried or aborted, no matter how far along the pregnancy had progressed.

- Mike Pence is pro-birth, but not pro-life. He once funneled $3.5M dollars from Temporary Assistance to Needy Families into programs that counsel against abortion. He wants those women to have those babies, but he doesn’t care if the kids starve or live on the streets afterward.

- Mike Pence has refused to comply with federal guidelines aimed at reducing prison rape.

When you add it all together, you can see that the most dangerous part of the Trump-Pence ticket is …that calculating quiet man who will be leading the charge from behind. Mike Pence is basically against anyone who is not white, conservative, Christian, and male.

When Mike Pence was a young lawyer on the rise, he challenged a longtime Democratic congressman for a seat in a Republican-leaning Indiana district. He seemed to have it in the bag until voters were stunned to learn that he had been using political donations to pay personal expenses including the mortgage on his house, his credit card bill, groceries, golf tournament fees, and car payments for his wife.”

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Taiwan set to legalise same-sex marriage

Taiwan could become the first Asian country to pass same-sex marriage laws.

Taiwanese parliamentarians have begun work on three bills in support of marriage equality, one of which is already listed for review and could be passed within months.

President Tsai Ing-wen, Taiwan's first female head of state, said as recently as October she supported same-sex marriage.

Yu Mei-nu, a ruling Democratic Progressive Party MP who is sponsoring the same-sex marriage bill now in line for parliamentary debate, said it would be a big step forward for human rights in the region.

If successful, Taiwan would join countries such as Canada, Colombia, and Ireland that have legalised same-sex marriage over the past 15 years.

It would though be a notable exception among Asian and Middle Eastern countries, at least 20 of which continue to ban same-sex intercourse.

Growing support among younger Taiwanese

The Taiwan LGBT Family Rights Advocacy group said about 80 per cent of Taiwanese people between the ages of 20 and 29 support same-sex marriage, citing local university studies.

In a 2012 survey, Taiwan's United Daily News found 55 per cent of the public supported same-sex marriage, with 37 per cent opposed.

Those figures could reflect Taiwan's ready acceptance of multi-party democracy and other inclusive attitudes, as well as the fact Taiwan's 23 million people largely follow Buddhism and traditional Chinese religions that take no strong positions on sexual orientation or gay marriage.

Cythereal posted:

It's not Trump you should be afraid of, it's Pence. Trump has never given a poo poo about anything that does not personally affect him. Mike Pence, not so much.

A Pale Horse posted:

As I said, Vice President is the most toothless position in all of American politics. Unless something happens to Trump, Mike Pence is where he can do the least amount of harm. He's also not part of the alt-right in any sense, so Trumps alt right handlers will keep him well away from any real policy decisions. He was a concession to get evangelicals aboard, but neither Trump nor the alt-right really give a poo poo about evangelicals or what they want.

A Pale Horse posted:

Trump has been the most LGBT positive republican candidate to date. I would understand this panic if Slime Goblin Ted Cruz has been the candidate but I really don't think Trump has any animus towards the LGBT community, and Vice President is the most toothless position in American politics. I have no doubt that Trump doesn't want to be bothered with the every day minutia of governance but I'm thinking he's going to hand that off more to his personal team of goblins headed by probably Steve Bannon, who is also a huge turd, but not an explicitly anti LGBT one. I have no doubt he'll appoint judges bad for LGBT causes but I think that's as far as Trumps anti-LGBT work goes. Don't forget he's also got "gay traitor" Peter Thiel (who actually did a lot for LGBT causes before everyone started shrieking "traitor" in his face) buzzing in his ear and comes from the New York elite which is piled high with homosexuals. Any republican would have been bad, and Trump is a monster, he's just not a particularly anti-LGBT one so the histrionics probably aren't warranted.

There will be a lot of alt right type trolls crowing about how they're all going to send us to the fabulous gas chambers for a few months though.

A Pale Horse posted:

As I said, Vice President is the most toothless position in all of American politics. Unless something happens to Trump, Mike Pence is where he can do the least amount of harm. He's also not part of the alt-right in any sense, so Trumps alt right handlers will keep him well away from any real policy decisions. He was a concession to get evangelicals aboard, but neither Trump nor the alt-right really give a poo poo about evangelicals or what they want.

Gorilla Salad posted:

From the picture thread:



Trump didn't win it, Clinton lost it.

Pikavangelist posted:

I'm concerned that that interpretation ignores the impact that the repeal-in-all-but-name of the Voting Rights Act had on suppression of minority votes.

Gorilla Salad posted:

Okay, that's news to me. I'm not American, so I don't hear every horrible thing the Republicans do.

In Australian politics there's a saying "we don't vote governments in, we vote them out", so I was definitely looking at that graph through that lens.

What happened to voting rights?