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TooMuchAbstraction posted:On the other hand, if you have a bad gut feeling, that can be a good reason to bail. That's just what it is. My gut is telling me there's a way better team fit out there and that I could definitely get the same kind of money somewhere else. I interviewed with 3 people on the team and I didn't particularly think any of them were great. Very strange vibe, as I mentioned before almost like an interrogation.
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So uhhh...I probably shouldn't watch Netflix while I'm working at the office right? I really want to. I've been working exclusively on performance enhancements for this old WPF app and the tedium is driving me crazy.
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Nov 11, 2016 19:30
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Doghouse posted:So uhhh...I probably shouldn't watch Netflix while I'm working at the office right? I really want to. I've been working exclusively on performance enhancements for this old WPF app and the tedium is driving me crazy. Put it in a small window, about a quarter screen size, and treat it like music in the background. I did that with YouTube videos all the time at my old job. I regularly see my co-worker putting up the Daily Show or whatever on one of his monitors
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Nov 11, 2016 21:52
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Stinky_Pete posted:Put it in a small window, about a quarter screen size, and treat it like music in the background. I did that with YouTube videos all the time at my old job. I regularly see my co-worker putting up the Daily Show or whatever on one of his monitors Yeah, I and several other people in my office do this occasionally as well. As long as the work is getting done I can't see why it would matter and, luckily, a programmer's work is more or less measurable.
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Nov 11, 2016 22:31
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Stinky_Pete posted:Put it in a small window, about a quarter screen size, and treat it like music in the background. I did that with YouTube videos all the time at my old job. I regularly see my co-worker putting up the Daily Show or whatever on one of his monitors Depending on what your office is like even a fullscreen thing might be OK? I don't know.
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Nov 13, 2016 03:21
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Doghouse posted:So uhhh...I probably shouldn't watch Netflix while I'm working at the office right? I really want to. I've been working exclusively on performance enhancements for this old WPF app and the tedium is driving me crazy. I worked with a mid-thirties dude who watched dragon ball z at the office all day at work while waiting for stuff to compile. No one really seemed to mind.
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Nov 13, 2016 17:39
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At my old job the CJs noticed that Netflix was taking up over half of the bandwidth for the whole office and slowing down file transfers which was a big deal because we imported a bunch of data every day multiple times per day. They blocked it and later that same day the CTO complained and had them unblock it lol
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Nov 14, 2016 17:13
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Munkeymon posted:At my old job the CJs noticed that Netflix was taking up over half of the bandwidth for the whole office and slowing down file transfers which was a big deal because we imported a bunch of data every day multiple times per day. They blocked it and later that same day the CTO complained and had them unblock it lol Everyone knows you give the C*Os unfiltered internet!
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Nov 14, 2016 17:41
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Hughlander posted:Everyone knows you give the C*Os unfiltered internet! I really wish I had thought to suggest that. IIRC, the day I decided I needed to leave that place was when I went to talk to our QA team about an issue I couldn't reproduce and when the team lead walked up on one of her subordinates watching Orange is The New Black (I think?), the first thing she said was, excitedly, "ooh! are you on the new season yet?!".
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Nov 14, 2016 18:57
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If you were a hiring manager at a place that uses predominantly Go, and gave out an assignment to someone (me) that has used primarily Java... would you prefer a very good solution in Java or a maybe less good solution in Go but demonstration that you can pick up a new language? I'm torn.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:34
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Good Will Hrunting posted:If you were a hiring manager at a place that uses predominantly Go, and gave out an assignment to someone (me) that has used primarily Java... would you prefer a very good solution in Java or a maybe less good solution in Go but demonstration that you can pick up a new language? I'm torn. Either put in the time to make a good solution in Go or do it in Java. I'd also just ask what language they wanted it in if they didn't specify.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:46
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quote:At {company}, we use a lot of Go and MySQL. For the challenge, we’d like you to be able to work in languages with which you’re comfortable, but we do suggest the following:
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Nov 14, 2016 19:48
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Idiomatic Java.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:58
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This is a work sample, if you don't think you're the best at Go quite yet, don't write it in Go. On the other hand, if the task is easy enough that you think you can write something pretty reasonable (Go does happen to make a lot of stuff straight forward) pick what results in less code to review through. I did some coding tests in Python and others in Javascript for the same companies depending upon what I felt was easier to get off the ground instead of more boilerplate or language abuse.
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Nov 14, 2016 20:37
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Yeah, that makes sense. I have a limited amount of time and I'm also interviewing at other places, so I'm leaning Java/Jetty/Postgres/Guice and other tech I'm familiar with.
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Nov 14, 2016 20:54
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Oh man, my initial executive review at Google got denied and I was really bummed, but my recruiter appealed and I got approved!  Super excited. I'll be working in MTV.
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Nov 16, 2016 00:31
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muon posted:Oh man, my initial executive review at Google got denied and I was really bummed, but my recruiter appealed and I got approved! Rad, when do you start? There's a bunch of people in this thread in MTV if you ever want to get lunch or something
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apseudonym posted:Rad, when do you start? I just got the news so I haven't started looking at relocation options, but most likely beginning of January. If Google is like every other place I've worked, it gets super slow in December as everyone uses vacation, which doesn't sound like a great time to start. That'd be pretty sweet, I don't know anyone in the Bay Area and I need to find like minded people to play board games with.
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muon posted:executive review at Google
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muon posted:I just got the news so I haven't started looking at relocation options, but most likely beginning of January. If Google is like every other place I've worked, it gets super slow in December as everyone uses vacation, which doesn't sound like a great time to start. The first two weeks, one week I think if you aren't in tech, are orientation and have little to no interaction with your team so it doesn't really matter that December is slow or people are out. I would just start whenever is convenient for you. They normally allow you to start on any Monday, but I don't know if that changes in December.
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JawnV6 posted:Is this still "well everyone who actually spoke to this human and would work alongside them gave a thumbs up, but Page glanced at the resume for 30 seconds and said no" asur posted:The first two weeks, one week I think if you aren't in tech, are orientation and have little to no interaction with your team so it doesn't really matter that December is slow or people are out. I would just start whenever is convenient for you. They normally allow you to start on any Monday, but I don't know if that changes in December. Oh, cool, that's good to know. I know the last two weeks aren't available, presumably because of Christmas.
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Nov 16, 2016 01:26
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asur posted:The first two weeks, one week I think if you aren't in tech, are orientation and have little to no interaction with your team so it doesn't really matter that December is slow or people are out. I would just start whenever is convenient for you. They normally allow you to start on any Monday, but I don't know if that changes in December. Ehhhh I skipped almost all the training.
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JawnV6 posted:Is this still "well everyone who actually spoke to this human and would work alongside them gave a thumbs up, but Page glanced at the resume for 30 seconds and said no" From what I understand the hiring committee is the one that has the bulk of the power in hire/nohire decisions. Executive reviews tend to be just a final check before offer, and most of them that fail are strange cases like "this org's headcount budget has changed and there aren't enough chairs left" or "this is a bit weird to hire someone two years out of undergrad as a L5" kind of stuff, versus VPs just randomly torpedoing SWEs because they don't like their resume. Don't quote me on that though.
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Pollyanna posted:My parents are skeptical of my job (which has improved quite a bit recently!) and are starting to not-so-subtly push me into going back to school/the military via getting an infosec job (long story). My impression of infosec as a field and industry is kinda negative. Really, the only reason it's being suggested is "people are getting hacked lots!" therefore job security, but that says to me to avoid the field instead of getting into it. You should join the military.
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After a 16 hour assignment I got a response that nitpicked one of my design decisions that I didn't even think was a bad decision, let alone the way he mentions to do it is not even feasible. The feedback doesn't even make any sense to me. E: I didn't sign an NDA and I think I did a pretty good job with the assignment - can I put it on my Github? Good Will Hrunting fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Nov 16, 2016 |
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Nov 16, 2016 21:27
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Good Will Hrunting posted:After a 16 hour assignment I got a response that nitpicked one of my design decisions that I didn't even think was a bad decision, let alone the way he mentions to do it is not even feasible. The feedback doesn't even make any sense to me. People who review work always feel like they need to find something wrong, even if there isn't actually anything wrong. Or he's stupid. Take your pick.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:E: I didn't sign an NDA and I think I did a pretty good job with the assignment - can I put it on my Github? P. sure it's yours to do with as you please as long as they didn't pay you for it
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For the record, here's the critique. "metadata" was one resource, the one listed last on the assignment, and the one most poorly defined.quote:On the positive side, the structure of the project is straightforward and it’s easy to jump in and quickly get a high-level understanding of everything. Similarly, the Application and the resources are easy to understand and well-structured. I also appreciate the use of DI when building the service instances.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:38
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If someone sent you that response as part of a "no thanks" after you did an uncompensated 16 hour project you should respond only using the words "gently caress" and "you". It's insane to treat an assignment that big and uncompensated, that you work on in isolation, as a filter vs thing-to-discuss-in-interview. (Perhaps don't take my recommendation literally  )
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One of the concerns is valid. I could have structured one of the methods differently and put it inside the resource as opposed to the service. That said, the solution they suggest for metadata isn't even possible given the 3rd party APIs. The only "abstract" way I could think of to solve that was some sort of use of reflection to examine methods of the objects at runtime. Which, uhh, yeah, mother gently caress that.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:46
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The recruiter I was using emailed me and said the company communicated that there were "fundamental issues once they dug deeper". Sorry that me, a developer with 2 years of experience, wasn't able to design a super awesome distributed file system on my own based on a lovely, vague Sublime text spec. That said, I'd be glad to post my code on my personal GitHub if anyone wants to review it and give me changes so I can at least get something out of it. I'll buy you plat or some poo poo in return.
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Nov 16, 2016 22:13
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You've posted so many weird stories that I was growing a little skeptical, but that's a total bullshit response. That dude is nuts.
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rt4 posted:You've posted so many weird stories that I was growing a little skeptical, but that's a total bullshit response. That dude is nuts. I really do have some lovely stories, but I swear they are not fabricated at all. Some of my ex-managers from my first two jobs have the same responses and assure me that it's just a string of really bad luck and not to get discouraged. I'm still really junior and I know this, my experience is lacking a lot. But I'm not asking for bucketloads of money or anything out of the ordinary, I just want an environment where I can a.) actually build poo poo b.) be nurtured a little bit. That said, this is getting really really discouraging. 3 final round interviews where I was bounced, 1 offer from a place with the weakest team I interviewed with and no interest in discussing the other team as a fit.
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It's not like you seem like a liar, it's just such an unlikely streak of bad luck. Now that I think about it, around year two in my career I also had a bunch of interviews end without offers. It gets easier as you have more experience. Until you get "too old" or something, that is.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:The recruiter I was using External recruiter? Almost without fail only hot garbage companies will use an external recruiter.
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rt4 posted:It's not like you seem like a liar, it's just such an unlikely streak of bad luck. Now that I think about it, around year two in my career I also had a bunch of interviews end without offers. It gets easier as you have more experience. Until you get "too old" or something, that is. my last job search i had about a dozen crazy interactions like that. it's just what the market is like right now if you don't have an extremely focused set of companies you're going after and people you know at said companies.
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:External recruiter? Almost without fail only hot garbage companies will use an external recruiter. Yes, he was recommended by a friend. Struggling to find time to search on my own anymore but this guy seems like kind of a typical know-it-all dev. Anyway, here's more feedback! quote:You’re right, I did a pretty bad job explaining myself. Holy poo poo his style of writing is so autistic.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Holy poo poo his style of writing is so autistic.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Yes, he was recommended by a friend. Struggling to find time to search on my own anymore but this guy seems like kind of a typical know-it-all dev. Anyway, here's more feedback! So every file store is supposed to store data about the location of the file in all of the others? That's not a bad idea, I guess, but it seems like it'd almost look like a DOS attack attempt to synchronize them or spin up a new one.
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