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Pretending intergender wrestling is the future is very 2014.
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Commentary mentioned the roster being thin due to injuries this allowing a Ricky Mandel in Aztec Warfare. Who all is injured?
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Nov 18, 2016 02:42
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rovert posted:Pretending intergender wrestling is the future is very 2014. Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Nov 18, 2016 |
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Nov 18, 2016 02:45
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Dr. Baker posted:Commentary mentioned the roster being thin due to injuries this allowing a Ricky Mandel in Aztec Warfare. Iveliesse broke her ankle on the last episode.
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Nov 18, 2016 03:05
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Dr. Baker posted:Commentary mentioned the roster being thin due to injuries this allowing a Ricky Mandel in Aztec Warfare. His entire entry was a Trece joke followed by his destruction by Pentagon. Again.
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Nov 18, 2016 03:08
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Where are Fenix, Aerostar, Daga, Dragon Azteca Jr., etc.? The roster did look pretty thin.
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Nov 18, 2016 03:39
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Dr. Baker posted:Where are Fenix, Aerostar, Daga, Dragon Azteca Jr., etc.? The roster did look pretty thin. Fenix and Aerostar lost against Drago in a 3 way match for a spot in Aztec Warfare. Dragon Azteca is kayfabe injured. Daga is kayfabe dead?
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Nov 18, 2016 03:52
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Dr. Baker posted:Where are Fenix, Aerostar, Daga, Dragon Azteca Jr., etc.? The roster did look pretty thin. Fenix and Aerostar lost in a three way qualification match against Drago, so he got the #20 spot and they were out. Daga is apparently dead at the hands of the not-yet-debuted LORD PINDAR. Dragon Azteca was beat down by Chavo Jr a couple weeks back and hasn't appeared again yet. Killshot, AR Fox, Argenis, Texano, and Cage lost a five-on-five qualifier. Chavo Jr. got driven out of lucha by Rey Mysterio. Ivelisse and maybe Taya were out with injuries. Puma is busy being dead. Out of all those, only Ivelisse and maybe Taya were legit injury situations. And Daga may be a contract thing or he just didn't want to bother working in the states.
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Nov 18, 2016 03:56
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SRM, just a simply yes or no will suffice (spoilered, of course), but is Lord Pindar actually a someone we will see in the Temple?
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Nov 18, 2016 07:52
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If our suspension of disbelief can handle Death Golem and God Monster, it should probably be able to handle that Death Golem can be pinned if he nearly died last week, fought God Monster at length this week, took many chair shots to the head, and put himself through two tables. Sexy didn't gorilla press the guy and hit him with a Warrior Splash.
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Nov 18, 2016 08:19
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Goddamn those chair shots. Please don't scramble Mil's brains LU. 
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Nov 18, 2016 08:44
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I'm one of those people who was extremely down on Sexy Star winning the title, I thought (and still do) that it should have been Ivie if they wanted a women's champion..but after tonight, I have to eat a little crow on that and say that the story they told with it, and how over Sexy was with the crowd made it come off WAY better than it sounded on paper. At the end of the day, if Sexy winning the title made people happy? Then i'm ok with it. Other thoughts: I love how consistent the show is with it's own mythology..they talk about Rey as 'the king', almost like he's a god in his own right, and so it makes perfect sense that he gets the first pin on Matanza (with a little help from everyone in the match), and somehow it's believable in a way that it wouldn't be if it were anyone else. And while i'm not going to spoil anything, if I didn't know the story they were telling with Pentagon, this might have been the episode where I said 'gently caress this, I give up, they're never giving him the title', and I can't blame anyone who feels that way. I think the problem is, they're trying to tell the 'guy who does bad things to people has it come back to bite him in the rear end' story with Pentagon, and that would be great..if the fans saw him as someone who deserved to have his poo poo come back to bite him in the rear end, but they don't. The fans want 'kick-rear end skeleton ninja who breaks arms to be champion and break arms more' as the story, and so there's a disconnect there. We Got Us A Bread fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Nov 18, 2016 |
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Capsaicin posted:SRM, just a simply yes or no will suffice (spoilered, of course), but is Lord Pindar actually a someone we will see in the Temple? Yes. For me, the Pentagon reaction I had was kind of the opposite of the post above this one. If this wasn't the time for him to take the belt, I don't mind at all that he gets taken out of Aztec Warfare by a four-way surprise attack from unknown enemies. I feel like that's a very protected loss, more so than just losing to someone random on the roster (or even getting pinned by Matanza again). And it gives him something interesting to do while Sexy and Mundo settle things -- that assumes of course that he's going to square off in some way with the ninjas, but it seems a safe bet that they wouldn't bring those three in just for that quick run-in. Some of this was tempered by my prior knowledge of how cool those three are, so if you've never heard of STARDOM before I could see how it might be a different reaction. I will say there's a place later this season where I about popped a blood vessel on something Pentagon related though. StarkRavingMad fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Nov 18, 2016 |
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Nov 18, 2016 15:40
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Benne posted:For all of Sexy's limitations, she's always had charisma and knows how to tell a story in the ring, which frankly is more important to me than actual wrestling ability. No Mas and last night's match proved that she can deliver in the big moments. Totally agree with this post. I missed most of Season 1 and have been heavily involved with Season 2 and 3 so I think I missed her worst moments. I've liked pretty much everything I've seen with her so far.
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Nov 18, 2016 17:04
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Sexy Star's post match promo to the live crowd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VfRGOCy_60
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Nov 18, 2016 20:54
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fatherdog posted:Meltzer's opinion on intergender fights is that it's driving away sponsors and not attracting fans, not that it's affecting the suspension of disbelief, which makes your entire post a giant non-sequitor. Eh, someone may as well take the hit and try to make it work. LU isn't doing great but if they do go out of business it won't be because they had women fighting men.
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Nov 18, 2016 22:00
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The only time I found the intergender violence a little skin-crawl-y was watching Worldwide Underground constantly ganging up and beating on Sexy, especially coupled with her backstory of being a survivor of abuse. But I'll tell you, being one of those dicktards who's always been pro heel since I was a Hogan hating kid, and always wanting to cheer for those irascible goofs in WWU, they did a drat good job of making me want to see them get their asses kicked. My only concern for them is that woman punchin' heat seems like it could be hard to shake off. I think one of the reasons people started hating X Pac so much is the weeks on end he spent kicking Torrie (?) in the face. I know the Dudleys made serious hay out of throwing women through tables, but that is WAY more silly and cartoony them straight up hitting women IMO. I dunno, I'm rambling, but I'm not opposed to intergender competition at all, but I feel like it has to be handled thoughtfully, which the Sexy Star angle ultimately was.
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Nov 19, 2016 04:28
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I don't mind the intergender stuff at all, but I do cringe a little when the commentary doubles down on it. If it's going to be normal for the women to fight the men, I don't need Striker telling me it's all okay that Cage just threw Taya by her hair into the fence or reminding me Sexy Star was abused while she gets powerbombed to poo poo by Mil Muertes. Given the way LU has pushed her since day one though, Sexy makes sense as a champion. The only times I really think she doesn't look great is when she's next to Taya or Ivalisse because they wrestle a lot harder than she does, and I doubt she'll be having a match with either during her reign.
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Nov 19, 2016 05:18
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may her reign be long and fruitful and not just a ratings grab
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Nov 19, 2016 07:36
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When Texano or Cage get possessed by that God or whatever, him, Mil Muertes, and Matanza should team up and for for the Trios titles.
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Nov 19, 2016 07:50
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Them facing off against the Super-friends as a Scary Monsters Trios Team would be so hype
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Nov 19, 2016 09:59
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I hope Texano wins the series if only so the Aztec God powers can make him a more interesting wrestler. Then again, inheriting powers didn't do much good for the Disciples of Death, so.
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Nov 19, 2016 11:20
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Benne posted:I hope Texano wins the series if only so the Aztec God powers can make him a more interesting wrestler. I had thought that as well, but it's Dario, so I doubt things are entirely straightforward. This season has been fantastic and Aztec Warfare III - especially the first half - was pure fire. I love a good Rumble/Aztec Warfare anyways, and this one was incredibly well booked.
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Nov 19, 2016 13:11
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Wouldn't say fantastic but any stretch of the imagination
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Nov 19, 2016 16:19
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dsriggs posted:But if it's comic book land, why is the story in just about every LU intergender match "Small Woman gets beat up by Larger, Violent Man and loses/flukes a win"? They're never portrayed at the same level of ability as their male counterparts. Dr. Baker posted:Commentary mentioned the roster being thin due to injuries this allowing a Ricky Mandel in Aztec Warfare.
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Nov 19, 2016 18:24
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is there a reason i missed that the ninja ladies attacked pentagon and is it sexist to not want to see him in this particular feud?
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Mulaney Power Move posted:is there a reason i missed that the ninja ladies attacked pentagon and is it sexist to not want to see him in this particular feud? Pentagon broke Black Lotus' arm at Ultima Lucha Dos for no real reason. They've since shown her preparing revenge with her ninja clan.
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Nov 19, 2016 18:35
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i can't believe i don't remember any of that but i guess it's better than fighting loving vampiro
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Nov 19, 2016 18:45
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The ninja clan vignette was an end of episode stinger, so it's easy to forget. The arm break came from a match between Black Lotus and Dragon Azteca Jr. While the match was going on, Pentagon Dark ran out, kicked both their asses, broke both their arms, then demanded they do the Matanza title match right then and there.
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Nov 19, 2016 19:04
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Why can't everyone just break joey ryan's arms/legs, send his wheelchair flying down the stairs like oj simpson in naked gun
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Nov 19, 2016 19:21
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sticklefifer posted:I will say I appreciated the subtle joke of Mandel entering at #13. Until of course Striker yelled out multiple times that "He's entering at number Trece! Number Trece!" GET IT BECAUSE HE WAS A SKELETON MAN YOU GUYS Worst part of that wasn't the "entering at Number Trece" call. It's that it wasn't even Striker doing it. It was Vampiro. Striker is contagious.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:49
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Mulaney Power Move posted:is there a reason i missed that the ninja ladies attacked pentagon and is it sexist to not want to see him in this particular feud? I'm excited because all 3 women are amazing wrestlers.
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Nov 19, 2016 21:19
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Jay 2K Winger posted:It's that it wasn't even Striker doing it. It was Vampiro. If Striker had said it, it would have been a groundworthy fourth wall break, though.
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Nov 19, 2016 22:14
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I thought Striker made the original call, Vamp repeated/corrected it, then Striker said it again, but maybe I misheard.
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Gumball Gumption posted:I'm excited because all 3 women are amazing wrestlers. well either pentagon gets beat up 3 on 1 or pentagon beats up three women, which is still better than three vampiros in either case.
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Nov 20, 2016 01:35
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Whatever gets us more cool looking Canadian Destroyers.
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Nov 20, 2016 02:17
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Gavok posted:Pentagon broke Black Lotus' arm at Ultima Lucha Dos for no real reason. Somebody told him he was too scared to break a lady's arm.
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Nov 20, 2016 07:24
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Why can't everyone just break joey ryan's arms/legs, send his wheelchair flying down the stairs like oj simpson in naked gun I've been wanting Joey to do his handcuff gimmick in an Aztec Warfare super early on and instead of immediately getting ripped from the cuffs, everyone coming in just takes a cheap shot on him as they rush in.
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i want 1960s bob roop to put joey ryan in a sugar hold and then demand to know why he calls himself a wrestler. then maybe eddie graham could sucker punch him in the dick. what i'm saying is he is an effective heel because i don't like him!
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I've been wanting Joey to do his handcuff gimmick in an Aztec Warfare super early on and instead of immediately getting ripped from the cuffs, everyone coming in just takes a cheap shot on him as they rush in. Isn't that what happened in the last one?
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