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Tobbs Gnawed posted:If that's the case, then you're spot on, because her vote on you is without any effort, casing, or explanation at all. lol I like how you read her post but not mine which she was responding to because once again you are wrong.
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Asiina posted:lol I like how you read her post but not mine which she was responding to because once again you are wrong. The post that ANarc literally just responded to, clearly showing that she didn't call you out for lurking, but rather for not putting any effort whatsoever into your votes/cases which is exactly what you're doing?
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Nov 18, 2016 02:15
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Jesus I'm sorry I thought the night was longer I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm catching up with the thread will post more when I get home
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Nov 18, 2016 02:23
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"You provided no explanation." "Here is the explanation." "Nope no explanation at all!" You don't even acknowledge you are making things up, such as never calling out ANarc until later in the day. Between this and what KB has pointed out, it tells me you aren't actually interested in reading the thread, you're just constructing a narrative and when shown evidence that you are wrong you completely ignore it and instead double down on your opinion based on lies. As for ANarc's point, her phrasing of "is going to barely put any effort into the game" I, and others who cased her afterwards using the same logic, interpreted that as saying that I was not going to post. Whether she just meant shitposting instead I don't know (but as I explained to bowmore that's not my meta that she is continuing to use against me). The fact that she apparently didn't mean lurking still means she's casing me and has continued to case me on things that did not happen. She cased me early on saying that I was going to not put effort in in the future, and she's casing me now and still backing up that claim when I have the third highest number of posts in the game and am clearly putting in a whole lot of effort. It was a bad case then and it's a bad case now.
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Nov 18, 2016 02:25
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Asiina posted:As for ANarc's point, her phrasing of "is going to barely put any effort into the game" I, and others who cased her afterwards using the same logic, interpreted that as saying that I was not going to post. Whether she just meant shitposting instead I don't know (but as I explained to bowmore that's not my meta that she is continuing to use against me). The fact that she apparently didn't mean lurking still means she's casing me and has continued to case me on things that did not happen. She cased me early on saying that I was going to not put effort in in the future, and she's casing me now and still backing up that claim when I have the third highest number of posts in the game and am clearly putting in a whole lot of effort. Here's the interaction, let's take a look and see if you're right. Asiina posted:##vote chores AnonymousNarcotics posted:What the heck is this? Looks to me like scum asiina who hates being scum and is going to barely put any effort into the game. This was, as I said, a fair interpretation by ANarc. Who looks at a lame-rear end D1 joke-phase claim and checks out a few minutes after the game starts. In ANarc's words, "Scum Asiina." Asiina posted:What does this first sentence even mean? It is utterly contentless. AnonymousNarcotics posted:What the absolute gently caress why are you voting me for doing exactly that? You have a lot of posts, Asiina, and a lot of them were contentless shitposts in jokephase. Also, regardless of your meta, you laying down a vote on chores and then saying you're going to check out until D2 is scummy as hell. You, KB, and I guess CPig are dismissing it as a meta argument, but it works as a "Scummy generic player" argument too.
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Also, do I seriously have to point out that the prime scumspect for today is a player who picked out someone voting for the easiest lynch in the game (chores claiming sk) who happened to flip town, and sticking with that case? Like, in what universe does scum ANarc see a lunch like that developing and think to herself, "I'm gonna go in and defend chores and make myself a target, because that's how I play scum." Maybe that's her grand strategy, I don't know, but if I were scum I would have let chores dig his own grave there. A lot of players did.
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Nov 18, 2016 02:43
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And a lot of players came in saying "I told you so" for mad townie cred. It cuts both ways.
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Nov 18, 2016 02:56
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Here's the interaction, let's take a look and see if you're right. Except ANarc has herself said it was a meta argument. AnonymousNarcotics posted:For the millionth time, I didn't say anything about asiina lurking. Here's that post: So what are you even arguing here?
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Nov 18, 2016 02:59
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Anyway I'm out for the night. Goodnight terrible game.
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Asiina posted:And a lot of players came in saying "I told you so" for mad townie cred. What constitutes a lot? and so far as I can tell everyone has elaborated on those alleged I told you sos.
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Asiina posted:I like this post the best because it is the one that demonstrates the complete fabrication of this narrative. It's the theory I'm working with and I'm entitled to that. Less fabricated narrative and more that's the conclusion I arrived at. The placement of the votes by you and Infinitum, as you point out, is unlikely to be coordinated and arguing with infinitum, I felt a little better about his rationale, but I honestly don't find your initial stance and responses to the questions to be genuine. Even though you made more posts following the vote, they were mostly innocuous and had little to do with the actual game.
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Nov 18, 2016 03:44
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:lol, ANarc's game Huh. Would you say this was a pretty normal scum game for you?
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Nov 18, 2016 05:01
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I think we can all agree now, dongs' avi is cute.
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King Burgundy posted:Huh. Would you say this was a pretty normal scum game for you? Normal? I'm not sure. Honestly when I'm scum I type up twice as many posts as I actually submit, and I don't filter as much as town. I find it's a lot more effective to sit and let town snipe at each other than get overly involved. Yeah, I'm giving up my scum meta but as much as people picked up on it in ANarc's game, without Quid nk'ing me I would have had them. Scum Tobbs is careful, town Tobbs not so much. I'd be better at playing town if I played like I do when I'm scum, but it takes more effort. If I get lynched when I'm town, it's towns' dumb rear end fault because I'm not scum I just post too much. If I was scum and I got lynched for careless play I'd feel bad, so I do a lot more to try and seem less scummy. Self-meta is dumb but here we are.
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Nov 18, 2016 05:23
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Yeah, your tone comes off SO different in that game. I wouldn't ever form a meta on someone on this few games, but it does make me reconsider you here.
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Nov 18, 2016 05:49
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Nov 18, 2016 06:57
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:meta is dumb but here we are. Summing up this entire day.
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Tired Moritz posted:i like role madness games and I actually post too ##vote TM Look at those ten posts from yesterday. Anyway, I'm up now, more soon.
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Nov 18, 2016 13:10
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:You have a lot of posts, Asiina, and a lot of them were contentless shitposts in jokephase. Also, regardless of your meta, you laying down a vote on chores and then saying you're going to check out until D2 is scummy as hell. You, KB, and I guess CPig are dismissing it as a meta argument, but it works as a "Scummy generic player" argument too. Anomalous Amalgam posted:Even though you made more posts following the vote, they were mostly innocuous and had little to do with the actual game. I went back and counted and if you discount chiptune chat, more than half of Asiina's posts were directly relevant to this game of Mafia. "Mostly" seems like a mischaracterization. Anyway, it really seems to me like this argument isn't based on what actually happened D1. Yes, Asiina said she'd check out, and then she came back and posted. Most of it's even relevant. The only thing that stood out to me was the "I have a theory on Cpig" thing that got changed to a gut read today, which I would like to hear more about.
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Tired Moritz posted:Are you telling me to look at posts or what? No, I'm saying you managed to hit the post limit yesterday and have an utterly contentless filter. I mean, looking at posts is always a good idea.
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oh, I understand. to be honest, I forgot there was a post limit. Anyway, here's some random thoughts that I just want to share. Though I find flavor arguments to be bad and wrong, especially in this game, I find Asiina change from "I got a cool accessory" to "I got a crap accessory" kinda odd. Though, at the same time, I don't think it makes sense for Asiina to implicate themselves like that. I don't think there's any benefits for her to do that if she's scum? Very strange. In my mind, she's probably town but I won't lie, that inconsistency is quite odd. Also even though I didn't vote for Chores, I completely understand why people would do so. It seems more beneficial to lynch a potential SK at D1 than to let them run rampant and potentially kill off either a talkative townie. So I don't think it's fair to judge people are scum just because of that.
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Nov 18, 2016 13:38
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So after reading d2 again I got a lot to find weird vibes coming from Tobbs and AN. There seems to be a poo poo ton of weird bad arguments coming from Tobbs that could either odd approaches towards scum hunting with all the meta and flavor stuff... or it could seem that there's really not that much information and he's deflecting any and all suspicion away from himself.
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Sorry for the inactivity. Not paying enough attention and I have almost rub out of phone data until next week... so I only use WiFi everywhere and work has SA blocked. I'll be able to be much more active tonight on.
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On that note I'm going to throw my ##vote tobbs in the ring for what it's eorth. I don't feel like most of his arguments are genuine or helpful to town.
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Nov 18, 2016 14:24
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Votecount for Day 2  Tobbs Gnawed (3): Jedit, Mayor Glowku, Anonymous AnonymousNarcotics (3): King Burgundy, Asiina, CapitalistPig CapitalistPig (1): Jimmy Hats Tired Moritz (1): Flying Leatherman Asiina (1): Tobbs Gnawed, Infinitum, Anomalous Amalgam (1): Infinitum Not Voting (4): Anomalous Amalgam, AnonymousNarcotics, Tired Moritz, Truth QuarkWith 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is November 18th, 2016 at 1 p.m. EST -- that's in about 4 hours, 25 minutes.
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Nov 18, 2016 14:34
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##vote Tobbs This guy doesn't even read the thread murdr him
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Nov 18, 2016 14:54
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Umm ok since I'm apparently going to be lynched I'm an elite bodyguard. Dead now regardless so I guess look for scum on my lynch.
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Nov 18, 2016 15:12
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Gonna ##vote Jimmy Hats for the attempt to turbo me, double vote etc. Also he's on my scumspect list.
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Tired Moritz posted:oh, I understand. to be honest, I forgot there was a post limit. I don't buy that you "forgot" there was a post limit. This post comes across as trying to placate, especially since none of these opinions in this post are original or even remotely controversial. It's just a bunch of easy comments and reads to me like you're trying to make it look like you're participating when you actually aren't. Who do you think is scum? For the record, Tobbs has been pinging me most of the game too, and I'd be down to lynch him or TM today.
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Would also vote JHats because him throwing that double vote around willy nilly also seems scummy as gently caress. Both times he's used it have been lazy "me too" votes.
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It is interesting to me that Anarc, having gotten the conversation going w/r/t Asiina, has kind of stepped back and not been visible while Tobbs and AA have pushed the case. As someone else noted, she hasn't plonked down a vote in this game yet. It feels like she's flying under the radar now that the discussion is going a bit more. I would be interested to hear what her views are on the last couple pages.
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Truth Quark posted:Would also vote JHats because him throwing that double vote around willy nilly "I would vote this guy for playing his role, personally I think he should only be using half his voting power, because ???"
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Tired Moritz posted:oh, I understand. to be honest, I forgot there was a post limit. This makes me more confident in my vote. The last two games I played with him, TM was scum hunting, asking questions, stuff like that. Even in Cat Lady Mafia when I misread him, he was asking questions of other players that were at least relevant to the game. His posts this game have been totally disconnected with the game and more just non-sequiturs/jokephase stuff, and like TQ notes two or three posts above me the only reads he's given - which required prompting - were super bland and recycled.
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Truth Quark posted:Would also vote JHats because him throwing that double vote around willy nilly also seems scummy as gently caress. Both times he's used it have been lazy "me too" votes. If you're looking for more things that are scummy as gently caress, if I'm reading Votefinder right then Jimmy put his anonymous second vote on Tobbs well before putting his own on. That's underhand, because it made Tobbs the lynch leader. ##unvote I need to think more about this. Is deadline really 7pm UK?
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Votecount for Day 2 Tobbs Gnawed (3): Jedit, Mayor Glowku, Jimmy Hats, AnonymousNarcotics (3): King Burgundy, Asiina, CapitalistPig Jimmy Hats (1): Tobbs Gnawed Tired Moritz (1): Flying Leatherman Anomalous Amalgam (1): Infinitum CapitalistPig (0): Jimmy Hats, Asiina (0): Tobbs Gnawed, Infinitum, Not Voting (5): Anomalous Amalgam, AnonymousNarcotics, Jedit, Tired Moritz, Truth Quark With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is November 18th, 2016 at 1 p.m. EST -- that's in about 3 hours, 11 minutes.
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Jedit posted:If you're looking for more things that are scummy as gently caress, if I'm reading Votefinder right then Jimmy put his anonymous second vote on Tobbs well before putting his own on. That's underhand, because it made Tobbs the lynch leader. I want to say anonymous votes are attached to the day start post by default in Votefinder.
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Jimmy Hats posted:##vote Tobbs This guy doesn't even read the thread murdr him I do not like this vote. Has Jimmy claimed the Anonymous voter/double voter ability? Tobbs Gnawed posted:Umm ok since I'm apparently going to be lynched I'm an elite bodyguard. What's your flavour? 
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