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hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?
I asked a few pages back about a replacement for gReader, as it has been doing fucky things with readability mode for articles. I didn't get any response, so I've been trying the Feedly app. It feels slow, like it doesn't update in the background. It also doesn't have a mode to load articles that don't have a great RSS version (e.g. Terminal Lance only gives the first couple characters after the image). Does anyone else have any other recommendations before I go trying every single Feedly-capable RSS app?

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baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Alan_Shore posted:

How do Live Wallpapers not use much battery and CPU? Is it because they're videos instead?

Depends how much work they're doing, some use insane amounts of battery (like some games), others are pretty simple and efficient. A well written one should only have a performance hit when you're looking at it, and ideally not much then either

Gifs aren't hard to display, it depends how much caching you can do. A fairly small one can be turned into frames and kept in texture memory and then it's just there, ready to display. Some 500MB monster gif is gonna cause issues. Videos are a bit more work, probably worse than smallish gifs but definitely better than churning through a big one that thinks it's a video

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


Alan_Shore posted:

How do Live Wallpapers not use much battery and CPU? Is it because they're videos instead?

Neither, they're generated live. You might not think it's the case, but that is in fact far less intensive of a process than GIFS or videos. (or can be, if done right)

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!
Live Wallpapers were introduced with Gingerbread, so they couldn't have been that resource intensive.

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy
Got my pixel in today and the long press on an app for a quick menu is pretty slick. I noticed that inbox doesn't have a new round icon and doesn't have any long press features, while Gmail does. I switched over to inbox after Google told me to use it on my Nexus. Do they want me to switch back to Gmail now? Why do they suck at this poo poo so loving bad.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


GIFs are one of the few things around these days that isn't hardware-accelerated. The general-purpose CPU in your phone, which is more of a processor of last resort with as many specialist processors a typical phone has in 2016, has to put full power to running the GIF.

A full-3D or full-vector or UHD-video live wallpaper might actually be less intensive on your battery.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




This new Google photo scanner app isn't perfect but holy cow it's so drat easy and mostly very effective, I tried it out on some pictures from a trip to Europe a long time ago (check out those old school date stamps) and I'm really happy with the result, took all of 15 seconds per photo



ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

hooah posted:

I asked a few pages back about a replacement for gReader, as it has been doing fucky things with readability mode for articles. I didn't get any response, so I've been trying the Feedly app. It feels slow, like it doesn't update in the background. It also doesn't have a mode to load articles that don't have a great RSS version (e.g. Terminal Lance only gives the first couple characters after the image). Does anyone else have any other recommendations before I go trying every single Feedly-capable RSS app?

I saw you ask this a while back but wasn't in a position where I could type out a long reply. Does the problem you're having occur only on certain feeds? What if you turn the readability mode off? What's wrong with just reading the article in a Chrome window?

Just spitballing here.

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

CLAM DOWN posted:

This new Google photo scanner app isn't perfect but holy cow it's so drat easy and mostly very effective, I tried it out on some pictures from a trip to Europe a long time ago (check out those old school date stamps) and I'm really happy with the result, took all of 15 seconds per photo





You think 2003 is a long time ago :(

It's a really nice app. It's not perfect, but considering you're just pointing a phone camera at a photograph, it works pretty well.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

LastInLine posted:

I saw you ask this a while back but wasn't in a position where I could type out a long reply. Does the problem you're having occur only on certain feeds? What if you turn the readability mode off? What's wrong with just reading the article in a Chrome window?

Just spitballing here.

It happened on every feed I tried it out on, with all three mobilizer/readability options (Google, I don't remember, and nothing checked). A Chrome window seems to take longer than gReader's readability mode did.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

hooah posted:

It happened on every feed I tried it out on, with all three mobilizer/readability options (Google, I don't remember, and nothing checked). A Chrome window seems to take longer than gReader's readability mode did.

That's so weird. I use gReader and it hasn't messed anything up although the only two feeds I have that have the full text available to RSS is Krebs and the Chrome blog. I use no readability feature. Everything else I have needs to open in a Chrome window and that works well for me too.

The best I can say is to contact the developer, he's very responsive. He worked with me for months to fix a bug that only occurred in some weird corner case where there were a low number of total feeds and the read count changed from one specific number to another.

I'm sure the first step is to clear data from the app and reinstall, which I understand could be a pain if you have a lot of feeds set up in a lot of weird ways. Next is to try his beta version located here and see if the problem still presents.

Just so we're clear, if you're longpressing on the list of feeds, selecting Preferences, you have for Display on Loading - Feed View, Reading Mode - Off. If you're looking in the app settings, it would be under Reading Preferences, Load Article Link - Original Link, and both autoload options are unchecked. Under Services, I have Google Mobilizer checked for the mobilizer.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Finally, the Allo update everyone was waiting for!
https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/16/google-allo-smart-smiley/

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

The Dark One posted:

Live Wallpapers were introduced with Gingerbread, so they couldn't have been that resource intensive.

They can be pretty much anything at all, running in a handy service that sticks it on your home screen

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

baka kaba posted:

They can be pretty much anything at all, running in a handy service that sticks it on your home screen

Yeah, I was going to post this.

Live Wallpapers can use next to zero battery or they can eat your battery for breakfast, just depends on what it does and how well it is wrote. (hardly any Live Wallpapers are developed by top-tier talent)

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug

Thermopyle posted:

(hardly any Live Wallpapers are developed by top-tier talent)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.antonio.gismwallpaper
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kalicinscy.wallpaper.seedsoflife

spincube
Jan 31, 2006

I spent :10bux: so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
Grimey Drawer

Thermopyle posted:

I think the problem is that you're trying to fit the wrong paradigm into Google Photos.

With Google Photos instead of organizing stuff into folders and by date, you just do a search for "christmas with Sally" or whatever and it shows you those photos through the magic of TensorFlow (aka. machine learning). Whether you want to live in that paradigm is a different story, but it's quite good at the paradigm I described.

I'm not talking about their image analysis, which is indeed impressive. Google Photos works on the assumption that you have a photograph with perfect, valid EXIF metadata waiting to be uploaded to their service, so it can neatly display your photos in date order - unlike Play Music, which will scan your Linux MP3s and recreate the files on their service, adding proper metadata as needed from their records to fill in the gaps.

The photo I just 'scanned' of my little sister's day off sick from school, twenty years ago, is an adorable snap I want to keep: but there's no frame of reference for exactly when it was taken. Once scanned and uploaded to Google Photos, as I can't correct the date/time metadata it's listed as taken today, which is obviously incorrect.

Keeping the scans in a folder-like structure, however, best replicates how the physical copies of my photo scans have been stored forever - i.e. '\1996, March\image_###.jpg'. In this case, the bucket-of-files method works better than the metadata method. Support for abstract metadata tags like 'March 1996' - the way all- or multiple-day events in calendar apps 'float' above regular appointments, for example - would solve my issue.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Goodbye Tapet

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!

spincube posted:

I'm not talking about their image analysis, which is indeed impressive. Google Photos works on the assumption that you have a photograph with perfect, valid EXIF metadata waiting to be uploaded to their service, so it can neatly display your photos in date order - unlike Play Music, which will scan your Linux MP3s and recreate the files on their service, adding proper metadata as needed from their records to fill in the gaps.

The photo I just 'scanned' of my little sister's day off sick from school, twenty years ago, is an adorable snap I want to keep: but there's no frame of reference for exactly when it was taken. Once scanned and uploaded to Google Photos, as I can't correct the date/time metadata it's listed as taken today, which is obviously incorrect.

Keeping the scans in a folder-like structure, however, best replicates how the physical copies of my photo scans have been stored forever - i.e. '\1996, March\image_###.jpg'. In this case, the bucket-of-files method works better than the metadata method. Support for abstract metadata tags like 'March 1996' - the way all- or multiple-day events in calendar apps 'float' above regular appointments, for example - would solve my issue.

It uses visual cues from within the photo that you've uploaded to get the meta data it needs.
Upload a picture with a bike in it, then search for 'bikes', and it'll show up. You don't have to tag the photo or anything. With people, you can go through and start tagging a persons face. It can recognize faces that match and it'll tag [behind the scenes] them all together. So you label one and all of them follow. You can train it on faces to match contacts that you have as well.

For what you're after, just use dropbox or w/e. You seem to just want space to put things in your perfect folder structure. keep it like you like it.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The thing is, if date metadata wasn't important for Google photos, it shouldn't default the view to sort by date or it should put photos without date metadata last.

I tried out the photoscan thing last night on two 20 year old photos and sent them to a friend.

The fact that two 20 year old photos are listed as "yesterday" when I open up Photos irritates me to the point where I'm probably going to remove the photos until I can correct the metadata.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat
I'm going to guess there's a media monkey like application that can generate EXIF data based on the folder structure. So you can probably just point it at the pics, let them all get updated and then upload them.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Oh, it's not an unsolvable problem if you were making a effort to scan and upload old photos.

The original point is that there's no way to do it from your phone. While this app is pretty quick for what it does, it still requires interaction per photo. Adding an optional "When and where was this photo taken" prompt when you save would be hugely useful and wouldn't add overhead to the process.

Pympede
Jun 17, 2005
That google photoscan does work surprisingly well, good work google.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

spincube posted:

I'm not talking about their image analysis, which is indeed impressive. Google Photos works on the assumption that you have a photograph with perfect, valid EXIF metadata waiting to be uploaded to their service, so it can neatly display your photos in date order - unlike Play Music, which will scan your Linux MP3s and recreate the files on their service, adding proper metadata as needed from their records to fill in the gaps.

The photo I just 'scanned' of my little sister's day off sick from school, twenty years ago, is an adorable snap I want to keep: but there's no frame of reference for exactly when it was taken. Once scanned and uploaded to Google Photos, as I can't correct the date/time metadata it's listed as taken today, which is obviously incorrect.

Keeping the scans in a folder-like structure, however, best replicates how the physical copies of my photo scans have been stored forever - i.e. '\1996, March\image_###.jpg'. In this case, the bucket-of-files method works better than the metadata method. Support for abstract metadata tags like 'March 1996' - the way all- or multiple-day events in calendar apps 'float' above regular appointments, for example - would solve my issue.

Yea, I get what you're asking for, I'm just saying that isn't really how Google Photos wants you to use their service.

However, it's very easy to change the date of your photos.

Select all of the ones you want to change, click the 3-dot menu, and select edit date/time. You can then shift them all relative to their current date, or set them all to a specific date.

edit: one sec, I'll get an image or something to show that better...
edit2: https://plus.google.com/+GooglePhotos/posts/3ABHACR7QhA

Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Nov 17, 2016

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

Thermopyle posted:

Yea, I get what you're asking for, I'm just saying that isn't really how Google Photos wants you to use their service.

However, it's very easy to change the date of your photos.

Select all of the ones you want to change, click the 3-dot menu, and select edit date/time. You can then shift them all relative to their current date, or set them all to a specific date.

edit: one sec, I'll get an image or something to show that better...
edit2: https://plus.google.com/+GooglePhotos/posts/3ABHACR7QhA

I think the complaint everyone has is that there's no way to do it from your phone. The photoscan app should have an option, but the Photos app should definitely have the same functionality as the website.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Vykk.Draygo posted:

I think the complaint everyone has is that there's no way to do it from your phone. The photoscan app should have an option, but the Photos app should definitely have the same functionality as the website.

Yes, I'd agree with that complaint.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

LastInLine posted:

That's so weird. I use gReader and it hasn't messed anything up although the only two feeds I have that have the full text available to RSS is Krebs and the Chrome blog. I use no readability feature. Everything else I have needs to open in a Chrome window and that works well for me too.

The best I can say is to contact the developer, he's very responsive. He worked with me for months to fix a bug that only occurred in some weird corner case where there were a low number of total feeds and the read count changed from one specific number to another.

I'm sure the first step is to clear data from the app and reinstall, which I understand could be a pain if you have a lot of feeds set up in a lot of weird ways. Next is to try his beta version located here and see if the problem still presents.

Just so we're clear, if you're longpressing on the list of feeds, selecting Preferences, you have for Display on Loading - Feed View, Reading Mode - Off. If you're looking in the app settings, it would be under Reading Preferences, Load Article Link - Original Link, and both autoload options are unchecked. Under Services, I have Google Mobilizer checked for the mobilizer.

Well, now I can't get it to load anything in the readability mode. It shows the little red couch icon in the toast, but nothing changes in the article view. I'll have to re-install and see how that goes. Getting the feeds set up isn't a problem since I just import from Feedly; it's all the settings that I may have changed; there's just so many in that app that I forget what I've changed.

Edit:
Immediately upon logging in with Feedly, I could double-tap to load a different version of the article, but now I can't figure out how to get that back after I adjusted some settings.

Granted, part of the problem may be that I don't understand all the terminology in the settings, and there doesn't seem to be a wiki/FAQ (noinnion has expired). Maybe you or someone else can explain these terms to me:
  • Reading mode
  • Normal format only, one of the choices for "Autoload reading mode" under "Offline Reading".
  • Load article link

hooah fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Nov 17, 2016

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

spincube posted:

I'm not talking about their image analysis, which is indeed impressive. Google Photos works on the assumption that you have a photograph with perfect, valid EXIF metadata waiting to be uploaded to their service, so it can neatly display your photos in date order - unlike Play Music, which will scan your Linux MP3s and recreate the files on their service, adding proper metadata as needed from their records to fill in the gaps.

The photo I just 'scanned' of my little sister's day off sick from school, twenty years ago, is an adorable snap I want to keep: but there's no frame of reference for exactly when it was taken. Once scanned and uploaded to Google Photos, as I can't correct the date/time metadata it's listed as taken today, which is obviously incorrect.

Keeping the scans in a folder-like structure, however, best replicates how the physical copies of my photo scans have been stored forever - i.e. '\1996, March\image_###.jpg'. In this case, the bucket-of-files method works better than the metadata method. Support for abstract metadata tags like 'March 1996' - the way all- or multiple-day events in calendar apps 'float' above regular appointments, for example - would solve my issue.

You can edit time and date both by photo and in groups. You're just wrong.

e: Just saw Thermopyle pointed this out

hooah posted:

Well, now I can't get it to load anything in the readability mode. It shows the little red couch icon in the toast, but nothing changes in the article view. I'll have to re-install and see how that goes. Getting the feeds set up isn't a problem since I just import from Feedly; it's all the settings that I may have changed; there's just so many in that app that I forget what I've changed.

Edit:
Immediately upon logging in with Feedly, I could double-tap to load a different version of the article, but now I can't figure out how to get that back after I adjusted some settings.

Settings > Reading Preferences > Article Controls > Double tap

hooah posted:

Granted, part of the problem may be that I don't understand all the terminology in the settings, and there doesn't seem to be a wiki/FAQ (noinnion has expired). Maybe you or someone else can explain these terms to me:
  • Reading mode
  • Normal format only, one of the choices for "Autoload reading mode" under "Offline Reading".
  • Load article link

Honestly I don't know what all the options do either since it's always worked fine for my purposes. The stuff I'm dealing with is simple text and if it isn't and it doesn't come out right in the app, I let it open in a Chrome window which of course will always work. When it comes to RSS, I'm a lot less interested in the formatting than the notification of new content.

ClassActionFursuit fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Nov 17, 2016

kender
Dec 15, 2000
Forum Veteran
Coming from an iPhone background - when I had a remote control headset (bluetooth or plugged in), the remote would pause/fast forward whatever audio or video I had 'on top' or was the active one.

Switching to the Pixel/Android, whenever I press play or pause on a remote, it will perform that action for Google Play when it is off or on , even if I'm running VLC, the audio version of the Economist or anything AudioBook/Podcast related.

This has got to be a silly setting I am unaware of, and would love some help figuring it out.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
I've set Tapet to change to a new wallpaper each hour, however, the actual interval seems to be way higher than that and kinda random too, anyone have had anything like that happen to them?

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
Is there an app that just sets your wallpaper to https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html and actually works? I've tried several and they all seem to stop working after a while or never work at all.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Incessant Excess posted:

I've set Tapet to change to a new wallpaper each hour, however, the actual interval seems to be way higher than that and kinda random too, anyone have had anything like that happen to them?

I don't use tapet, but had similar problems with a different wallpaper app. I'd imagine its doze messing with the timer.

Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

uPen posted:

Is there an app that just sets your wallpaper to https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html and actually works? I've tried several and they all seem to stop working after a while or never work at all.
I used to use Muzei for rotating wallpaper, I assume it still works:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.nurik.roman.muzei&hl=en
There's are a few NASA/APOD plugins for it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.richapps.apod
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.swizel.android.muzei_nasa
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brennasoft.muzei.nasa

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice

Pympede posted:

That google photoscan does work surprisingly well, good work google.

As someone who scans a ton of photographs it's not going to replace my current workflow, but boy am I glad to have it on my phone because if I'm ever at someone's house and want to scan a physical photo they have it's definitely good enough. Also every client I get who send me a cell phone shot of some photo for me to use in a video or presentation I can just tell them to get this app. Is all the processing done on your phone or is it actually uploading the multiple shots to google and processing there? Just curious if it'd work somewhere I have no signal.

I am against having all my photos on the internet though so I just have everythign perfectly organized and labelled on my hard drive, then backup to my laptop, phone microsd card and a usb stick I keep in a fireproof safe at the office. I use Quickview to browse them on my phone.

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

davebo posted:

Is all the processing done on your phone or is it actually uploading the multiple shots to google and processing there? Just curious if it'd work somewhere I have no signal.

The app doesn't have network permissions, so I think it's all done on the phone.

Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

davebo posted:

Is all the processing done on your phone or is it actually uploading the multiple shots to google and processing there? Just curious if it'd work somewhere I have no signal.
The Nat & Lo video about it confirms that it's all local.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

LastInLine posted:

Settings > Reading Preferences > Article Controls > Double tap

Yeah, this is enabled, and the little toast comes up, but nothing else seems to happen.

quote:

Honestly I don't know what all the options do either since it's always worked fine for my purposes. The stuff I'm dealing with is simple text and if it isn't and it doesn't come out right in the app, I let it open in a Chrome window which of course will always work. When it comes to RSS, I'm a lot less interested in the formatting than the notification of new content.

Well darn. I have a good mixture of tech/science blogs which tend to work fine and webcomics which are a poo poo-show. I'll keep poking around. I did email the dev when I first started having this problem, but have not heard back.

Wrecking Ball
Jul 16, 2011
Is there some sort of app that does this:
Requires you to enter a password before you can send a text/email/ photo to a specific contact. (Yes, it was inspired by a Louie CK bit, but would actually be very useful.)
I would like to be able restrict sending sensitive content to the wrong person accidentally, etc.

Like the app could give you some sort of warning like "WARNING, you are attempting to send a text to JOHN DOE, please enter password to confirm".

XIII
Feb 11, 2009


Let her go, buddy.

DemonMage
Oct 14, 2004



What happens in the course of duty is up to you...
That's a rude thing to say about someone's mom :(

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Wrecking Ball
Jul 16, 2011

XIII posted:

Let her go, buddy.

I am a straight woman in a long term relationship. I have my boss and co-workers in my phone contacts. I don't want to send the wrong things to the wrong people?

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