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Why do they keep making games for 13 year olds? I am not 13 anymore!
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Nov 18, 2016 18:15
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I wouldn't of bought FF15 when I was 13. Kids these days! 
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Nov 18, 2016 18:17
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Barudak posted:Shenmue. Getting in the first real brawl in the parking lot is something I wish I could go back and experience for the first time again. Just beating the poo poo out of a dozen people at a time with a robust, Virtua Fighter-esque system where you're doing reversals and throws and tossing people around was awesome.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:04
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I think the Tales of games do combat best. It's active combat where both the enemies and the heroes at at the same time. No waiting for your turn, just smash poo poo. Same with Dark Souls. Everyone plays by the same rules. Aeris just died in my game so we'll see if this character shift in Cloud is real.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:06
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chumbler posted:The story comment is understandable, but I can't forgive calling Xenoblade X's music bad. Counterpoint: the town theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfk-dQceR3Y
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Nov 18, 2016 20:17
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Counterpoint: the town theme I think you meant "Point" there, friend.
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Nov 18, 2016 20:32
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The music in Xenoblade X is very much love it or leave it. Though I think even the people that love it can agree having music with lyrics play over a cutscene is stupid when its drowning out the people talking.
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Nov 18, 2016 20:44
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Some of the cutscene writing in Xenoblade X is so terrible that the music levels could be more feature than bug.
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Nov 19, 2016 03:03
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The combat feeling kinda like a Tales Of game is the #1 reason I'm looking forward to FF15.
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Nov 19, 2016 03:14
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marshmallow creep posted:Why do they keep making games for 13 year olds? I am not 13 anymore! FF4's main characters were mostly in their 30s. It was aimed at kids, but it could appeal to anyone because the design philosophy was to make a good game first and worry about marketing later. Now the main character is absolutely not allowed to be an adult, everything has to be run through a marketing team to make sure it has an appeal to X demographic, and most importantly, the games are not good. Hope this helps.
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Nov 19, 2016 03:33
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Actually, you say the game is for 13 year olds, but when I was 13 I would have said the game looked gay. Who the hell is FF15 for? Who wants to play a boyband road trip game that is also an in depth RPG where you fight a boss for 72 real time hours? The game just doesn't mesh, stylistically or conceptually. I have no idea who the audience for it is, and I don't think Square does either, because I think it was designed piecemeal and every little individual part was signed off on but not the product as a whole.
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Nov 19, 2016 04:00
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Nanomashoes posted:Actually, you say the game is for 13 year olds, but when I was 13 I would have said the game looked gay. 
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Nov 19, 2016 04:08
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Nanomashoes posted:Actually, you say the game is for 13 year olds, but when I was 13 I would have said the game looked gay. Who the hell is FF15 for? Who wants to play a boyband road trip game that is also an in depth RPG where you fight a boss for 72 real time hours? The game just doesn't mesh, stylistically or conceptually. I have no idea who the audience for it is, and I don't think Square does either, because I think it was designed piecemeal and every little individual part was signed off on but not the product as a whole. Source your quotes
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Nov 19, 2016 04:11
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Nanomashoes posted:FF4's main characters were mostly in their 30s. Cecil is 20, Kain is 21, Rosa is 19. e: The only playable character in his 30s is Yang. Veib fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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Nov 19, 2016 08:35
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I liked 13 and 14, so the main series is on a roll for me. 13's sequels are trash though.
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Nov 19, 2016 10:08
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Internet Kraken posted:I wouldn't of bought FF15 when I was 13. Kids these days! To be fair this will probably be better then FF8 and anyway I can tell you exactly what my reaction was as a teenager to a bad final final fantasy: denial. I forced myself to like it then put it safely away a drawer for the next 20 years. Yep it's been downhill since 8... I wouldn't be sad to see a real final final fantasy at this point.
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Nov 19, 2016 10:13
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Nanomashoes posted:Actually, you say the game is for 13 year olds, but when I was 13 I would have said the game looked gay. Who the hell is FF15 for? Who wants to play a boyband road trip game that is also an in depth RPG where you fight a boss for 72 real time hours? The game just doesn't mesh, stylistically or conceptually. I have no idea who the audience for it is, and I don't think Square does either, because I think it was designed piecemeal and every little individual part was signed off on but not the product as a whole. Stop listening to Conan, a man who doesn't even like RPGs and shittalks WRPGs equally. Besides which, the 72 hours was a mistake, they meant 72 in-game hours and FF XV's ingame clock doesn't operate on a 1:1 scale with real life.
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Nov 19, 2016 10:28
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Stop listening to Conan, a man who doesn't even like RPGs and shittalks WRPGs equally. Besides which, the 72 hours was a mistake, they meant 72 in-game hours and FF XV's ingame clock doesn't operate on a 1:1 scale with real life. Conan loved The Witcher 3 though.
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Nov 19, 2016 10:45
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Nanomashoes posted:Conan loved The Witcher 3 though. Nobody should take you or Conan o'Brien seriously when it comes to videogames.
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Nov 19, 2016 10:50
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Veib posted:Cecil is 20, Kain is 21, Rosa is 19. Hmm, weird. I remembered them as being older. Probably because they acted like adults and had consistent motivations.
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Nov 19, 2016 10:53
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aegof posted:Except maybe the jargon, (which never actually bothered me, somehow,) this stuff was my favorite part of FF13, and I was pretty excited to see how it all ended up. Oh don't get me wrong. You can definitely have tensions and secret agendas and betrayals but they to go somewhere. Suikoden II and FFT are these things done right. Especially Tactics. You just can't have your cake and eat it too like XIII. Where these tensions exist and it still ends in a friendship is magic theme
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Nov 19, 2016 16:38
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none of those ages are in the text so they may as well be fan fiction
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Nov 19, 2016 19:28
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El Generico posted:I liked 13 and 14, so the main series is on a roll for me. 13's sequels are trash though. 13 annoyed me because characters had such ridiculous motivations. It also feels like it takes too long to actually begin. By that I mean you're 10 hours in your party still isn't united and it's still slowly rolling out new mechanics. The game finally feels like it's started when you get to Pulse and by that point I was pretty much done. I only played it really recently on the PC and I just suddenly stopped because it had annoyed me so much. I didn't hate Vanille or Fang or whatever like lots of other people do but I definitely hated Snow and his stupid smug insufferableness. And Hope hating Snow and coming along anyway felt like something from a tacky anime. I played FF6 much later than the other games, on an emulator. I remember being around 15 and reading an article in a gaming magazine about it (when it was called Final Fantasy 3) but it being impossible to buy in the UK. I really disliked it. More than anything else the encounter rate felt ridiculously high to me and that annoyed me. I had the same feeling with FF9 but not so much with 8 and 7. Sure the world might have been interesting and having the world of ruin was cool but being constantly interrupted by fights was just too much for me.
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Nov 19, 2016 19:33
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Nanomashoes posted:Conan loved The Witcher 3's tits though.
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Nov 20, 2016 14:30
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Final Fantasy was always bad
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Nov 20, 2016 15:26
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Nanomashoes posted:Who wants to play a boyband road trip game that is also an in depth RPG where you fight a boss for 72 real time hours? The game just doesn't mesh, stylistically or conceptually. Not really for this thread but it spawned this idea, Change it from boy band to late 60s pop band, let me solve mysteries while managing internal band drama and external concerns like practices schedules and gigs, and let's go ahead and allow for chargen and costume customization. I would buy it. Instead, I'm probably going to buy Final Fantasy XV for swords and magic in a modern aesthetic and then remember I'm playing a JRPG and not get more than five hours in.
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Nov 21, 2016 03:13
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Nanomashoes posted:an in depth RPG where you fight a boss for 72 real time hours? I played Final Fantasy XI for years (Diabolos represent) so this is old hat.
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Nov 21, 2016 03:18
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Taear posted:13 annoyed me because characters had such ridiculous motivations. It also feels like it takes too long to actually begin. By that I mean you're 10 hours in your party still isn't united and it's still slowly rolling out new mechanics. FF13 was really bad but Hope was pretty cool so I gotta say this: did you miss the part where Hope says he's gonna get revenge on the guy who got his mother killed and then Lightning is like cool, and gives him a knife to stab him with? That's literally the reason why he tags along.
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Nov 21, 2016 03:21
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I've only really played 11 and 14, but I enjoyed them.
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Nov 21, 2016 03:23
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piL posted:Not really for this thread but it spawned this idea, But what if they start kissing each other?
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Nov 21, 2016 03:27
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Let me influence the decision and I'll prefer it, but I'd buy it anyway.
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Nov 21, 2016 03:34
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chumbler posted:But what if they start kissing each other? I break out the victory beer.
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Nov 21, 2016 03:37
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I thought some of the post apocalypse stuff in 6 was sad and cool. That whole game has something really interesting going on visually, it's steeped in nostalgia and theatricality. A couple games after that the whole thing just got too convoluted and goofy-looking to retain my interest i guess. But those little japanese toybox super artificial worlds of the earlier games still speak to me for some reason even if im not interested in playing them again. I think the appeal of this type of game is less how it plays and more about having a huuuuuuge amount of handcrafted content to hoover up as you explore the world really.
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Nov 21, 2016 03:59
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Jenner posted:So what happened to Final Fantasy? Well, here's my diagnosis. FF6 is good, FF9 sucks, and the FF series reached its peak with FFX-2
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Nov 21, 2016 05:44
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thread title should be "what happened to JRPGs". imagine conan playing an atelier title or neptunia. at least FF is making some attempt to be palatable to a wider audience
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Nov 21, 2016 06:03
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jrpgs are good, and ffxv is the best of them all
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Nov 21, 2016 06:06
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It never ceases to amaze me that so many people on this forum actually like FF XII. The story is sleep-inducing and derivative, the main character is pointless, the combat was automated away rather than made actually fun; I hated virtually everything about that game and still consider it one of the biggest disappointments in gaming. To be fair it looks gorgeous though. It's doubly annoying to me given that the best FF game, Tactics, was set in the same world and Ivalice deserved a better game. IMO there's a better question than the OP: why the gently caress aren't we getting more FFT games?! The last thing the world needs is another open-world RPG with bad combat mechanics IMO, we're definitely lacking for good SRPGs on consoles though.
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Nov 21, 2016 08:03
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thorsilver posted:It never ceases to amaze me that so many people on this forum actually like FF XII. The story is sleep-inducing and derivative, the main character is pointless, the combat was automated away rather than made actually fun; I hated virtually everything about that game and still consider it one of the biggest disappointments in gaming. To be fair it looks gorgeous though. 12 was initially made by Matsuno before he left the company. He also made FFT and FFTA which you seem to adore but considering he doesn't work at Square anymore and he's pretty much The Guy Who Does Isometric Tactics RPGs, it's safe to say that the FF Tactics franchise is dead.
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Nov 21, 2016 08:10
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thorsilver posted:It never ceases to amaze me that so many people on this forum actually like FF XII. The story is sleep-inducing and derivative, the main character is pointless, the combat was automated away rather than made actually fun; I hated virtually everything about that game and still consider it one of the biggest disappointments in gaming. To be fair it looks gorgeous though. 12 is good, though thorsilver posted:It's doubly annoying to me given that the best FF game, Tactics, was set in the same world and Ivalice deserved a better game. Have you heard the good news about Vagrant Story? Vagrant Story exists, and is the best Menus-In-Ivalice simulator since Final Fantasy Tactics! thorsilver posted:IMO there's a better question than the OP: why the gently caress aren't we getting more FFT games?! There was only one good FFT and all three sold far less than contemporary mainline games. The first on PSOne sold leagues better than the other two, which is also why it got a re-release on Vita and Mobile. I think at best the two Advance titles get mentions in other games, and ironically FF12 provides the most connections to Advance with the races that appeared in those games and not in the original. There's also a cellphone game that died in like one year in Japan.
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Nov 21, 2016 08:23
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Matsuno also made Vagrant Story so we should all accept that him attempting to make a mainline FF game actually crushed his spirit and deprived us of his works to this very day
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Nov 21, 2016 08:25
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