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Fulchrum posted:Considering that you're the ones trying to argue that the words "Socialists and progressives are responsible for all of the good things the Democratic party has done, and they happened in spite of-not because of- the party structure." don't actually mean that he is trying to claim that socialists and progressives are responsible for all the good things, and that everyone else just tried to stop them, I'm not the one with problems comprehending meaning.
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Fiction posted:I'll concede the point and the argument even though it doesn't contradict me since it never got passed, though. I'd vote for Feingold in a heart beat and I think he'd be a good president, but he'd have to try very hard to get the aura of losing two senate races off of him. And I'm pretty sure that after losing two senate races, he's ready to move on from politics.
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Nov 26, 2016 00:07
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Al Franken. Relatively progressive, midwest likes him, verbally knows how to go after dudes like Trump.
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I still say Duckworth. Yet to see any reason not to like her.
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Qwazes posted:Cory Booker saved a woman from a burning building while he was a sitting politician. He should have went back in and saved the 2020 race from himself.
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Nov 26, 2016 05:48
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mugrim posted:Al Franken. A TV star? In the White House?!
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Fulchrum posted:Alright, let's see if you can come up with one non-tortured interpretation of what he said that isn't exactly what I'm asking him to justify. no, what he said is that centrist democrats are incapable of doing anything good, not that leftists are incapable of evil. maybe you should attack him on the obvious hyperbole (for example, by providing examples of centrist dems doing good things, they exist!) instead of things he didn't actually say?
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Most of my friends like Tammy Duckworth, because they are from the Western burbs of Chicago and would like an eggplant so long as it was running as a Dem. She's probably the same as most all Illinois Dems though, which is to say a really big turd that can talk ok.
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Nov 26, 2016 14:29
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But I guess Dems were able to convince themselves once that "Shittier Obama" was a winning idea in 2016, so I'm sure in 2020 we'll have round 2 of #imwithher and a general election of Dems going "She fought in a war you can't say mean things about here this is totally awful!"
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Nov 26, 2016 14:35
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I sure would hate to suffer through a campaign based on something other than ad hominems
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Fulchrum posted:I still say Duckworth. Yet to see any reason not to like her. I see at least one.
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Nov 26, 2016 14:48
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She'll probably go with a slogan like "Stand With Her" because reminding people about the one interesting moment of her 2016 campaign will be important. Meanwhile Trump, fresh off bombing Peru for not letting him open a hotel in Lima, will tweet something like "good soldiers don't get their feet blown off" and he'll win 300 EC votes.
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Nov 26, 2016 15:05
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Whoever can get attention by shouting "gently caress the rich I'm coming for you fuckers" and doesn't gently caress gay hookers on the DL with children will win in a landslide So this wont happen.
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Nov 26, 2016 15:49
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hows lincoln chaffee doin these days i liked his anti-metric system plank
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Condiv posted:no, what he said is that centrist democrats are incapable of doing anything good, not that leftists are incapable of evil. maybe you should attack him on the obvious hyperbole (for example, by providing examples of centrist dems doing good things, they exist!) instead of things he didn't actually say? You mean like exactly what I did, followed by laughing at the tortured logic he used to try and justify his positions. Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:Most of my friends like Tammy Duckworth, because they are from the Western burbs of Chicago and would like an eggplant so long as it was running as a Dem. How about actually knowing something about her before we say that she is lovely?
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Nov 26, 2016 18:52
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Where does Tammy Duckworth stand on economic issues?
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Zyla posted:hows lincoln chaffee doin these days i liked his anti-metric system plank Chafee was pro-metric system
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Zyla posted:hows lincoln chaffee doin these days i liked his anti-metric system plank you motherfucker
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Fulchrum posted:How about actually knowing something about her before we say that she is lovely? She's a Dem from Illinois. That's something I know about her. Illinois Dems are poo poo. Ergo,
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Fulchrum posted:You mean like exactly what I did, followed by laughing at the tortured logic he used to try and justify his positions. You know, saying you did things doesnt retroactively make them done. Also if you support Duckworth why dont you lead with saying ehy she is good and why we should want her to be president?
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:She's a Dem from Illinois. That's something I know about her. Illinois Dems are poo poo. Ergo, oic
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He did actually come up with some stuff to debunk my argument made mostly to infuriate him.
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GlyphGryph posted:I see at least one. i have one as well in that i thought she was a character from duck tales that cspam made a running joke out of instead of an actual human being not the best start
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GlyphGryph posted:You know, saying you did things doesnt retroactively make them done. So did my posts about SCHIP, fighting the EPA on ground zero conditions and Zadroga all just delete themselves from your browser? I support her because she has that perfect balance of calm in the face of criticism and balls out fighter when something is clearly wrong that you need out of a leader.
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Yinlock posted:i have one as well Barack Hussein Obama sounds like a 2004 Era crazy racists made up name for the leader of the nation of Islam, what's your point?
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Fiction posted:He did actually come up with some stuff to debunk my argument made mostly to infuriate him. He claimed he came up with it first before delving into irrelevancies though, maybe I remember wrong but I though he only fell back on that after a huge pile of bullshit.
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if andrew cuomo runs for and gets the democratic nomination for president in 2020, it will take all of my power to not kill myself
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by every metric chaffee is the best candidate
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anime was right posted:by every metric chaffee is the best candidate hahaha, gonna steal this
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Did anyone ever figure out why he decided to open his announcement speech with horse trivia?
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Fulchrum posted:Did anyone ever figure out why he decided to open his announcement speech with horse trivia? After his apprenticeship, Mr. Chafee heard that there was a shortage of farriers in Canada — where his fondness for the metric system blossomed. He spent the rest of his 20s working on racetracks in Calgary and Edmonton, where he earned as much as $50,000 a year. lomarf
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get that OUT of my face posted:if andrew cuomo runs for and gets the democratic nomination for president in 2020, it will take all of my power to not kill myself Cuomo is disliked by just about everyone, is basically a less capable Clinton-lite, and has no hope of reversing that. So what I'm saying is maybe you should get a therapist lined up in advance.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Cuomo is disliked by just about everyone, is basically a less capable Clinton-lite, and has no hope of reversing that. So what I'm saying is maybe you should get a therapist lined up in advance. If you were on amazon and left Hillary in the cart too long, you'd get one of those front page "If you liked Hillary you'd Love Cuomo" ads.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Cuomo is disliked by just about everyone, is basically a less capable Clinton-lite, and has no hope of reversing that.
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mugrim posted:If you were on amazon and left Hillary in the cart too long, you'd get one of those front page "If you liked Hillary you'd Love Cuomo" ads. yeah no cuomo is super-trash and even the people in power know he's super trash it's basically not even a dem, he's a one man party having engineered the gently caress out of the ny legislature to gently caress over dems because he can
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anime was right posted:by every metric chaffee is the best candidate
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get that OUT of my face posted:you're saying all that like i'm not subject to that poo poo firsthand. there's nothing clinton-"lite" about him, either. he's more aggressively open about prioritizing working with republicans over his own party, about how he loves on-time budgets that don't raise taxes, and how his private sector growth plans (which are really just ways to shovel money to cronies) make businesses exempt from taxes for 10 years I was trying to be concise. I lived in Albany until quite recently and am more than aware of just how poo poo the dude is. "Hmm, how can I demonstrate a break with previous unethical practices in state government? I know, I'll shut down my own ethics inquiry when it gets too close to uncovering unethical behavior by my allies and in my administration!"
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