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Let us forever remember this, the day that we overthrew the evil chicken overlords http://i.imgur.com/Vl5ueL6.jpg
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Somberbrero posted:ernie tell me exactly what happened to you. I want Ernie to answer this just for posterity sake. But honestly I'm not sure I'd trust him about what he says about himself, given TMM's flip. What we can trust about him is his scum hunting though, so Ernie it's not like I'm going to completely disregard you. PMom, what do you think of Fisk's investigation on you now?
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Nov 24, 2016 21:48
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Trust Ernie in so far that he is genuinely looking for scum, not that he's right.
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Nov 24, 2016 23:39
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I don't quite get why he's voting Somber though.
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Nov 24, 2016 23:41
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Ernie. posted:Somber consistently comes off as decided in what he's doing. At a time where we're all constantly doubting every case and decision, there's only one way to be constantly sure and convinced of everything, and that's to have a plan. Okay got it.
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Nov 24, 2016 23:44
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Re-reading Somber: Somber didn't think Ernie was scum when he voted him on what I presume is D1. Out of "viability". Doesn't seem to push a vote elsehwere that much earlier, only a vote on MMT and a welp I'd vote ernie I guess. Okay I got to part where he goes back to MMT. Talks a lot about viability again. I think I'm at D2 now. I think Somber was consistently calling Asiina scum in every interaction or mention prior to "not being interested in flipping Asiina". There's that word viable again when voting Anarc. Seems to focus on viable votes a lot. Somber going after Fisk reads as genuine to me though. Prior to this, mainly D2 and D3, he doesn't look like he cares about scumhunting. It may have been a wrong call, but it reads to me like he's going after something he believes in. I'd cahlk up his prior play as disengagement from not having a strong enough idea on who he thinks scum. Not strong enough to argue as fiercely at least. That doesn't read like a man with a plan, as Ernie puts it.
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Nov 25, 2016 00:18
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Ernie. posted:Convince me otherwise. From my perspective nothing has changed in how I feel about the game in two game days. But your opinions have supposedly changed given Taste's flip. Tell me what insight that gives you. Who do you feel played that vote? I'd like to see Somber's answer to this too.
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Nov 25, 2016 00:20
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Amoeba102 posted:I want Ernie to answer this just for posterity sake. But honestly I'm not sure I'd trust him about what he says about himself, given TMM's flip. What we can trust about him is his scum hunting though, so Ernie it's not like I'm going to completely disregard you. like, I guess we don't know if his results were scum/not-scum or town/not-town or what, and there's some uncertainty over whether tmm's alignment changed on the same night he was investigated or right after, but that TMM came up as a good guy in taste's results seems to be a point against him being sane. in any case, I'm the worst person in the game to ask this of because I'm the only person who knows that I'm town, and i'm the only unflipped investigated player.
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Nov 25, 2016 02:30
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I just wanted to see how you'd handle his flip and if you'd bank the cred. I'm happy with your answer though.
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Nov 25, 2016 03:11
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Amoeba102 posted:I want Ernie to answer this just for posterity sake. But honestly I'm not sure I'd trust him about what he says about himself, given TMM's flip. What we can trust about him is his scum hunting though, so Ernie it's not like I'm going to completely disregard you. i have already told the truth. whatever shenanigans ecco is doing is actually out of my control as much as it is out of yours.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:54
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You can say that, but I'm not going believe that you weren't aware of your alignment change. What it means in terms of the game isn't really worth thinking about but the cool kids don't seem to have any power.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:58
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Amoeba102 posted:I don't quite get why he's voting Somber though. Did taste ever mention why he switched from moat to somber yesterday? Amoeba102 posted:Somber going after Fisk reads as genuine to me though. Prior to this, mainly D2 and D3, he doesn't look like he cares about scumhunting. It may have been a wrong call, but it reads to me like he's going after something he believes in. I'd cahlk up his prior play as disengagement from not having a strong enough idea on who he thinks scum. Not strong enough to argue as fiercely at least. Not sure I agree with this. it's entirely plausible that somber could have been intentionally laying low as to not draw attention earlier, then coming out actively scum hunting..for the cop. this isn't exactly an uncommon plan for scum players to have. ernie's read fits pretty well. as you said, if cool-aligned is significantly different from town wrt wincon, the scum hunting could be real but incorrect. cool doesn't sound necessarily untownie though?
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Nov 25, 2016 06:16
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Fisk was not believably a cop though. I wouldn't put chalk going after Fisk as a scum sign.
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Nov 25, 2016 06:23
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yeah I'm not trying to say voting for fisk is inherently scummy, we had no way of being sure of his role/alignment/results etc. but be that as it may, it may have simply been a push on a town player at a time scum considered it viable. not something to straight up rule out for just because it isn't a scum sign imo
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Nov 25, 2016 09:05
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was inherently scummy, I guess 
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Nov 25, 2016 09:06
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soup update (soupdate): I put in three tablespoons of apple cider vinegar and now the soup tastes totally fine. It still has something weird going on with it, but it's no longer overpowered by the cloves, and so I can eat it one bowl at a time without it feeling like too much of a chore. Too bad I'm going out of town in a few hours! Ha ha! I've put it in the freezer to be thawed in a week when I get back. I dunno. I am a vector for foodborne illness. On that note though,  there is a good chance the Sunday deadline will be very floating. It depends on how quickly I can get back from Baltimore on Sunday night.
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Nov 25, 2016 13:00
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I think all town, cool, and mafia aligned players can come together and say, why would you willingly go to baltimore
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Nov 25, 2016 13:08
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looking back over the thread, I've just noticed that amoeba's avatar is really cute and I'd like them to remain in the game due to this
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Nov 25, 2016 13:10
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I hope you all had a happy subjugation day.
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Nov 25, 2016 17:16
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Sorry to stick for how slow this is. My second thanksgiving dinner is tonight. I'll be able to give this game my attention tomorrow. Hope you all have a great day / night!
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Nov 26, 2016 16:47
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No worries, I was essentially in wifi hell until today anyway. Enjoy the holiday!
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Nov 26, 2016 16:50
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Hello I've been very depressed. I'll come back and hit this after I go through another game I've been neglecting more.
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Nov 27, 2016 00:26
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It's ok. There was no way anyone was going to post much until tomorrow.
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Nov 27, 2016 01:05
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:How is it incidental?? Im posting this because the thought just came to me and I'll forget later. This post makes me not want to vote Somber today. This was at the height of Somber's case against MMT. I think a scum buddy wouldn't have come in and thrown shade on my post defending Somber's argument. In fact, it paints a worse picture for MMT/ Amoeba. I'll revisit this tomorrow.
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Nov 27, 2016 01:19
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I probably can't make this case any plainer but the only reason someone would nightkill TMM over me is because TMM could get people on his side. We were both confirmed town yesterday. TMM was wrong about a lot (for example, Taste), so the threat he posed wasn't due to him having scum pinned. Whomever TMM was going to go after next is scum. I'm pretty sure that would have been Somber. But if someone else wants to go through TMM's history and point out otherwise, I'm all ears.
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Nov 27, 2016 01:43
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Ernie. posted:I probably can't make this case any plainer but the only reason someone would nightkill TMM over me is because TMM could get people on his side. We were both confirmed town yesterday. TMM was wrong about a lot (for example, Taste), so the threat he posed wasn't due to him having scum pinned. Whomever TMM was going to go after next is scum. I'm pretty sure that would have been Somber. But if someone else wants to go through TMM's history and point out otherwise, I'm all ears. TMMadman posted:I'm around, but I still think it should be Taste. TMMadman posted:I just don't get why a scum Somber would vote ANarc, the scum roleblocker, when the vote was tied 2 ANarc/2 TMMadman.
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Nov 27, 2016 01:49
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Ernie I think you are wrong. Stickup is the scum because of the TM block on n1
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Nov 27, 2016 01:51
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this is a stickup posted:Feeling somewhat less like death now. Ernie is definitely acting extremely erratic but I think he actually was right about TM, albeit for the wrong reason i think this is a fake case from toe to tip. also, it was wrong fwiw. this is a stickup posted:Not sure that this is the case, given that he was actively posting at the same time ecco posted the extension. No reason to not directly quote and reply, other than futility I guess a pretty bullshit point. this is a stickup posted:I'm iffy on tmm, but pretty sure you're wrong about dick. This is wildly meta, but I've correctly pegged him as scum in 3 recent games during D1, and I'm just not seeing it here. 'iffy'? that seems to be a huge mischaracterization. this is a stickup posted:I'm guilty of this but I need to read everything once my head isn't killing me before I can form any real opinions. though I'm not voting based on my meta reads anyway only mentioning this because it prompted me to go back and reread anarc. she's super obvious in her asiina interactions. she was also pushing tmm about the same time stickup was. i don't think pmom is scum based on her voting patterns. this is a stickup posted:I'd be alright with tmm based on the events of the latter half and esp. ending of d1 but holding off for now until everyone can check in. also I'm going to try and sleep again some time passes between this post and the 'iffy' post but i don't get how you negatively characterize tmm's end of day one interactions. this is a stickup posted:I'm a little confused about why taste would claim one shot cop then follow it up by saying we should ignore the scum result he jumps on the cop claim when no one else is really paying attention to it. scum only blocked tm the night he was visiting stickup. i mean presuming that's what happened, but it seems like a fair assumption. reading through the rest of his history now, breaking it up to make it more readable.
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Nov 27, 2016 02:11
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Thoughts on amoeba, Somber?
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Nov 27, 2016 02:26
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Stick is the other good case, fyi.
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Nov 27, 2016 02:27
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this is a stickup posted:I completely forgot moat was in this game this probably seems like some weak cider but i swear to god i only make these posts as scum. this is a stickup posted:yeah i'm just going to comeback and read all this when i'm sober, night friends it was stick who lost shine 3 as scum by drunkposting his real role, yes? this is a stickup posted:unless tm's flavor actually is some kind of cop and the godfather would have been recruitable, there is surely a cop. what makes you think otherwise? strangely certain. this is a stickup posted:good catch, max and moat being the outliers. I'm not suspicious of moat at all really. I believe your claim and have voiced my opinions on max's play not feeling genuine. stick was ON the lists quoted. strange strange. i don't know, i'm stopping here. i'm 50% certain it's stick but i'm worried that confirmation bias is coloring my casing.
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Nov 27, 2016 02:31
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Reminder of stick attempting to shift targets wildly during the anarc lynch.
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Nov 27, 2016 02:35
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I will be around tonight. Not so much tomorrow as I will be driving up to the mountains to claim a tree At this point preference for lynch (in order from most to least) are stickup, and a tie between amoeba and max (leaning max). If nothing ground shattering happens I am going to toss down a vote before going to bed tonight
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Nov 27, 2016 03:05
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Somberbrero posted:i think this is a fake case from toe to tip. also, it was wrong fwiw. quote:a pretty bullshit point. quote:he jumps on the cop claim when no one else is really paying attention to it. quote:scum only blocked tm the night he was visiting stickup. i mean presuming that's what happened, but it seems like a fair assumption. reading through the rest of his history now, breaking it up to make it more readable. iirc I brought this up once but this would be dumb instead of just killing tm withholding the kill, leaving only 1 nk. break it down: I'm town, roleblocking tm only while visiting me makes me look very suspicious, prevents confirmed town(according to tm) and a town player still dies. I'm scum, roleblocking tm only while visiting me makes me look very suspicious, and accomplishes nothing that killing tm would not. why would scum do that? hmmmm I'm on my phone now and there are some things I want to quote for other parts and also ff2s deadline so I'll respond later
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Nov 27, 2016 03:20
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##vote this is a stickup
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Nov 27, 2016 03:25
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deadline will deffo be floating!
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Nov 27, 2016 03:43
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Somberbrero posted:##vote this is a stickup honestly curious why you think responding to a mod in thread is a bullshit point though, what's your reasoning behind that
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Nov 27, 2016 04:55
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Somberbrero posted:it was stick who lost shine 3 as scum by drunkposting his real role, yes? yeah, although tbh the reason I lost shine 3 was pale spectres being random nked night one, and jimmy literally claiming a scum boss in day one (or two?). also I went to bed at that time because TM literally told me to just go to bed in tobbs game because I wasn't making any sense  quote:strangely certain. 1. unless tm was a cop based on flavor, a godfather flip means there is surely a cop. this was right fwiw. as an aside, has anyone actually been in a game (ecco or otherwise) that had a godfather but no cop? that's a pretty neat way to screw with the scum 2. if a claimed mason recruiter that confirms town turns out to be a cult leader, the newly recruited cult member would not say oh yes I am confirmed town now, tm is legit. this was also ... right? something weird happened to the alignment and I'm pretty sure I was right on the money, but TM was unaware. quote:stick was ON the lists quoted. strange strange. Here's your post: Somberbrero posted:pretty weird how my list matches up well with This was the player list at the time: TMMadman posted:Here are the current flips: and anarc's d20 lumpen list AnonymousNarcotics posted:towniest towns this is a straight up lie on your part and I am down for lynching all liars at this point in the game ##vote somber. I claimed vanilla very early. I was listed in the unknown quantities by anarc, but I was not "on the lists" any more than every other player. asiina turned out to be scum, and was in the slightly scummier category. you are at the very bottom of the town list, putting you relatively around the slightly townier category. strange strange indeed, somber, how it matches up so well. how unfortunate that your masonry isn't confirmed, as well
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Nov 27, 2016 05:22
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I'm leaning to Stick du to the N1 stuff. It's buggd me for a few days, and with th narrowing of the field I'm getting more convinced of my gut. I'll deal with this more tomorrow.
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Somberbrero posted:just to talk myself through this for a moment AnonymousNarcotics posted:here is my lumpen list
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