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just a self congratulatory pat on the back for all of us who called this stuff weeks back but also were pleasantly surprised how they went about revealing it. 10/10 good show. but also we are super smart special eyes tv watchers so props to us also ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Ciprian Maricon posted:"welp, I know where this will go, bye" Then why haven't you? No disrespect intended, it's just my honest question to your response.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:57
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VendaGoat posted:Go gently caress yourself and let them decide for themselves. You try too hard. This was an amazing episode tho. Seeing Bernard/Arnold just utterly break. Beautiful.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:58
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sudo rm -rf posted:right, which is why i called his flashback unreliable. and that this begs the question He's probably no one. Teddy's backstory was rewritten, and he's been confusing his new, fictional backstory with his real memories of the original events. The other hosts who know about Wyatt appear to be a group of crazy cultists waiting around for their leader to return to them. Perhaps "Wyatt" is Ford's attempt at supplanting Arnold's inner monologue?
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Nov 28, 2016 05:59
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el oso posted:Screencaps of the picture from Reddit: All things considered that picture held up pretty well for 30 years or so. I also think Wyatt is Dolores, and the shot we saw of the sheriff getting executed by Wyatt was indeed Dolores executing Arnold.
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Vintersorg posted:You try too hard. You challenge and then you walk away. C'est la vie. It is what it is.
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Nov 28, 2016 06:00
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VendaGoat posted:Then why haven't you? lol, seriously guy? Its fun to post about lots of things, even stuff you don't like or are super into. It's cool and interesting to see other peoples opinions.
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Nov 28, 2016 06:00
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The Man in Black is internet fandom.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:lol, seriously guy? So you're not willing to stop posting about what you believe and in fact Know the direction the show is going to go because, "Its fun to post about lots of things, even stuff you don't like or are super into. It's cool and interesting to see other peoples opinions."? Cool, yo.
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the only theory that anybody came up with that i thought was reaching too hard was when somebody, over a month ago, decided that "bernard lowe" was an anagram for "arnold weber" even though we had no idea what arnold's last name was at the time and welp here we are
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Nov 28, 2016 06:04
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:I think that Bernard has also been controlled by Arnold. He chokes Elsie then gets her to a place where someone (Arnold?) can talk to her. She is brought in on the secret that we don't know yet about Arnold or whatever. She trusts Stubbs and knows how to program the Ghost Nation (or whoever that was) to capture him. She sends out the signal knowing he will come. Trap sprung, now he will be let in on the secret. Very much agreed This was a hell of an episode Looks like Dolores 1.0 is the inspiration for Wyatt. Right now the thing I'm most curious about is what are fords plans for the Wyatt narrative? Also, did Maeve find (and disable) ford's backdoor programming that he used to control Bernard? My guess is yes
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Nov 28, 2016 06:06
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Codependent Poster posted:
Root for Teddy. I felt pretty good that he survived for three whole episodes this time!
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Nov 28, 2016 06:07
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VendaGoat posted:Why? Are you willing to express your distaste for this? Please do, because it can only allow us to make your experience better. Please stop with your awful fanfic posts
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Nov 28, 2016 06:14
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Maeve is the worst character ever. We need more Logan. Dr Ford is beyond crazy at this point. Also Talulah Riley is a very beatiful woman. DoctorGonzo fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Nov 28, 2016 |
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Nov 28, 2016 06:18
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DoctorGonzo posted:Maeve is the worst character ever. We need more Logan. Logan's so loving boring.
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Nov 28, 2016 06:20
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If Logan doesn't die, my theory is he tells his sister all sorts of stories about William in the park and that's what drives her to eventual suicide. Logan would play up Billy's love for Dolores, murderous rampage and whatever else we see. It would make Logan's "What happens here, stays here." into quite the comment. I imagine we might get a post-wife-death MIB scene of him dropping the picture on his first visit to the park after she dies, so about a year before the present.
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Nov 28, 2016 06:30
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Wax Lion posted:Please stop with your awful fanfic posts Oh look another person whom has never expressed any such disagreement before is now willing to do such for any sort of benefit to themselves. Go gently caress Yourself.
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Nov 28, 2016 06:31
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Jesus Christ. What a loving episode. They're sentient. All of them have the ability for true sentience and Ford keeps them there imprisoned. That's horrifying they're all truly sentient and basically human + , but they just get lobotomized if they obtain enlightenment. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Nov 28, 2016 |
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Nov 28, 2016 06:36
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VendaGoat posted:Oh look another person whom has never expressed any such disagreement before is now willing to do such for any sort of benefit to themselves. Get back on your meds. This is pretty crazy https://www.reddit.com/r/westworld/comments/57rpr9/observations_and_a_few_questions_im_mulling_over/
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Nov 28, 2016 06:39
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DangerZoneDelux posted:Get back on your meds. You've posted three times in this thread, the last one being a month ago. You've nothing to speak of in four episodes. Again, Go gently caress Yourself.
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Nov 28, 2016 06:40
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VendaGoat posted:You've posted three times in this thread, the last one being a month ago. Weren't you the one suggesting they edited and re-shot footage based on internet theories?
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Nov 28, 2016 06:49
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Kazy posted:Weren't you the one suggesting they edited and re-shot footage based on internet theories? He gets really high/drunk when he watches, he's suggested a lot of things. That was a good episode, was kind of expecting Nolan & Co to not reveal the timeframe stuff until the last episode as the final surprise.
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Nov 28, 2016 06:53
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Can we talk about how great that scene with young Anthony Hopkins in the past was because that was awesome. Or are people still measuring dicks and being assholes about a TV show. This show is awesome. I still wasn't sure even last week if there was 2 timelines ,but the reveal this week was great. Also, kind of guessed Bernard was Arnold, but that reveal was great as well. drat all of those scenes with Bernard and Dolores where he's speaking to her is in his memory. That's pretty cool.
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Nov 28, 2016 06:53
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I just started watching the episode Elsie  bae
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Nov 28, 2016 06:54
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Arglebargle III posted:What do you guys think about Ford's point about the outside world not accepting Host sentience? I know his logic tends to be extremely self-serving, but it has a ring of truth to it. I've been suspicious of Robert Ford's motivations from very early. He's quite willing to use cynicism and nihilism to protect himself, and he doesn't let the truth get in the way of his selfishness. Homo sapiens may have killed, murdered, or even eaten some neanderthals and other archaic humans, but we also successfully interbred with each other to the point where modern humans now have neanderthal and homo sapient ancestors. How will the outside world treat the sentient hosts? It depends on who meets them and how people are introduced to their new kin. Some people do not recognize the share of the divine even from within their own species, but this is not all people, or even most people. It will be a test of wisdom, made more difficult by the obstructions of Robert Ford.
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The fact that Ford is something of a fraud and has to keep re-using the old Arnold-made Hosts (including building himself a new Arnold to keep the place going) clears up a lot of the things I thought were weak in the show. It makes some of the gaps in security and overall lack of control make much more sense. Poor Bernard though, it was really satisfying to see him grab hold of the situation and get some much needed closure. I hope that isn't the last we see of him. (its unclear to me how much a gunshot in the head is damaging to Hosts, though I suppose a lobotomy gets the job done)
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Kazy posted:Weren't you the one suggesting they edited and re-shot footage based on internet theories? You're last reply was nov 26th, but you bring up an interesting point. First, we have already established that HBO has and is willing to edit things as this series goes on, proof being the logo. My own being the speech that begins with "I would need a shovel.." from the MiB to ford. Compare the background sounds. Regardless, we have established a baseline of HBO willingly deceiving us. We've proven this hypothesis. Which now means yours is the one in question. Yours is the one that we should have further scrutiny for. Yours is the one with the burden of proof. So, you and your friends, are you willing to bear the burden of proof?
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duz posted:He gets really high/drunk when he watches, he's suggested a lot of things. Don't think because you are the creator of a app that allows me to mark users of this site for there posting that you are above question. I'll leave it at that. BTW, I love the SA last read ap.
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VendaGoat posted:You're last reply was nov 26th, but you bring up an interesting point. stop posting please.
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vosk posted:stop posting please. Go gently caress Yourself.
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What is Ford's motives in all of this though is my question. Why does he go out of his way to protect the park. My guess is that Arnold figured a way to transfer consciousness that Ford can't figure out and this has all been Ford's gamble and drive to gain well immortality in some form. There has to be something more to it other than " Ford likes to play God".
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Nov 28, 2016 06:58
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VendaGoat posted:Go gently caress Yourself. Go gently caress Maeve instead, she is 
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so um, in Bernard's memory Theresa freezes up like a host. Was she a host?
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Doorknob Slobber posted:so um, in Bernard's memory Theresa freezes up like a host. Was she a host? No, Bernard gained control of his memories. He's inside his code and his memories. Basically kind of like lucid dreaming.
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Doorknob Slobber posted:so um, in Bernard's memory Theresa freezes up like a host. Was she a host? Nah it was a memory he could relive, just like his kid who he froze wasn't even a host he was just a false memory
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MarksMan posted:Go gently caress Maeve instead, she is Christ I think she would be one of the greatest fucks of my life. So sure. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The editing could've been less deceptive.  Doorknob Slobber posted:so um, in Bernard's memory Theresa freezes up like a host. Was she a host? I think that was just him acting within a memory like when he brought his kid back to life.
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So what do people think Ford's actual motivation for all of this has been. Is it just to protect the park? Or is to hide that they've created artificial consciousness and the hosts can become aware?
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Hollismason posted:What is Ford's motives in all of this though is my question. Why does he go out of his way to protect the park. My guess is that Arnold figured a way to transfer consciousness that Ford can't figure out and this has all been Ford's gamble and drive to gain well immortality in some form. It's more, "Ford really loving hates humans." But yeah, I hope it goes slightly deeper than that.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:It's more, "Ford really loving hates humans." But yeah, I hope it goes slightly deeper than that. Actually even more terrifying is that Ford believes human beings are no different that the hosts and this has driven him insane because he wants to break free of his own "programming". Ford's a straight up pessimist then and he has proof.
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