Psion posted:

Mmm, let me clarify that - I know there are reasons not to, but I also know that thread is full of anecdotes which are nothing but white noise for my specific question I was trying to research. I could've phrased that better.

as far as customer-specified tank size, I guess that makes some sense. I saw a post which claimed a plane with four tanks for a passenger layout will probably be reduced to one tank for a freighter layout; I can buy the same for passenger layouts depending on how the airline intends to use the plane, too. As to how true that all is, again, dunno.

clearly the best option is to ask one of the FAs next time I'm at the rear lav. that'll be totally normal and won't raise red flags at all, right?

Finger Prince posted:

The pilots might be able to tell you if they look it up in their manual.

Psion posted:

don't tempt me into trying to find a copy of one of those manuals

gonna guess Boeing and/or the airline will not lend me one if I ask nicely, so I'm gonna go with "it varies" and not pursue this further. Neat, though!

hobbesmaster posted:

I was once poking around a "virtual airline" and there was a link to what purported to be the actual flight manual for the delta MD-88

so as always flight sim spergs have your back

PT6A posted:

What is that, some kind of southern airbase for pussies? Alert, motherfuckers! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alert_Airport

(Yeah, I know it doesn't have a long enough [or paved] runway for an A330)

Prop Wash posted:

When it comes to sticking it to a pain-in-the-rear end passenger, a true pilot will make it happen no matter how short or unprepared the runway

MrYenko posted:

You could 100% get an A330 into Alert.

Getting it out again...

Psion posted:

don't tempt me into trying to find a copy of one of those manuals

gonna guess Boeing and/or the airline will not lend me one if I ask nicely, so I'm gonna go with "it varies" and not pursue this further. Neat, though!

Platystemon posted:

Remember that time the Dreamlifter landed at the wrong airport?

With that nice, dense air, favourable winds, minimal load, &c., I’m pretty sure you could get it off the ground. It wouldn’t be particularly safe, but you could do it.

Now I want to try it in a sim.

e:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpHKcSES_CA

Prop Wash posted:

Better CYFB than Thule Air Base!

Godholio posted:

Are they worried about stability and you falling in a chasm or what?

Murgos posted:

#00FFFF

Platystemon posted:

Remember that time the Dreamlifter landed at the wrong airport?

With that nice, dense air, favourable winds, minimal load, &c., I’m pretty sure you could get it off the ground. It wouldn’t be particularly safe, but you could do it.

Now I want to try it in a sim.

e:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpHKcSES_CA

Sagebrush posted:

does this guy know his rig is running at like 8fps

Kilonum posted:

<Elukka> 20 fps on a 1080 is not normal
<Elukka> but on flight sims it is

Psion posted:

don't tempt me into trying to find a copy of one of those manuals

gonna guess Boeing and/or the airline will not lend me one if I ask nicely, so I'm gonna go with "it varies" and not pursue this further. Neat, though!

Godholio posted:

The one time I got to visit Keflavik it was just a refueling stop (hooray for trooplift on loving 737s) in the middle of the night and everything was closed up. Same with Bucharest, except there were submachine gun-armed guards following us around.

Nebakenezzer posted:

I thought Iceland didn't have an army?

^{just some heavily armed cops I guess}

Dannywilson posted:

He's talking about Romania (another popular to-from the sandbox stopover) wrt the guards having SMG's.

Nebakenezzer posted:

I thought Iceland didn't have an army?

^{just some heavily armed cops I guess}

Psion posted:

I was on a flight the other day and after we landed the crew at the back was talking to the crew up front, but they left it on the cabin PA system so I got to overhear a nice conversation about potables while waiting to deplane. The question was what their potable status was and the answer was "half a tank."

this made me wonder what half a tank was in a unit that meant something to me, and in between about seventy-five thousand posts of complaining about how posters on airliners.net would never drink from the potable system because [pile of anecdotes and opinions worthy of a chain email forward], I did find this. anyone know if they're right?


the post is 12 years old, but it's the best one I could find. I'd go with the 737-800 total of 60 USG, except I've also seen other posts saying 30, others saying 40 and not specifying which 737 they mean so who knows

Nebakenezzer posted:

Amerika Bombers I: Black Gay Hitler

'Black Gay Hitler' is a term used on the somethingawful.com forums; it means any history counterfactual so far removed from the actual history as to cease to be a meaningful what-if. For instance, given how World War 2 went down, the Nazis winning the battle of the Atlantic (IE imposing an effective blockade against Britain) is something that could have happened, given not very many changes on the Allied and Axis sides. It is not Black Gay Hitler. The Germans never declaring war on the Soviet Union on the first place, and, say, using at least some of those resources to secure Mideast oil instead is very black gay Hitler, since you are changing not only history, but in a large part the reasons and mentality of the Nazis in the first place

The German transocean aircraft projects, collectively lumped under the label "Amerika bombers" is definitely Black Gay Hitler. While a few prototype Amerika bombers did actually exist, none of them could have accomplished a trans-continental air raid. Furthermore, even if a viable design existed, the Nazis utterly lacked the resources, fuel, and industrial capacity to build a fleet, or even a bombing wing of such aircraft. If you've read some of the Luftwaffe posts on this blog, you can guess the reasons why. Even if you can't do that, you can look at the only design that ever entered service that was "transocean" as the Nazis envisioned: the B-36. That airplane took the USA until the end of the Second World War to engineer. This long build time was despite that the USA had 1) vastly greater experience in strategic bombers, 2) aero engines that could actually power a sky-leviathan, and 3) overwhelming material and industrial might compared to - well - anyone. A quick perusal through the B-36's development will give you a handy list of things the German aircraft industry just couldn't do.

I recently read a book on the Third Reich's Amerika bomber projects, The Luftwaffe Over America, by Manfred Griel. Griel in his introduction too marks the whole thing as Black Gay Hitler (he may have used a different term) by setting the base condition for Amerika bombers being: control of the caucuses oil fields by Germany and the Soviet Union knocked out of the war. This is a little series of posts sharing what I've learned.

Linky

vessbot posted:

I just flew the other day with the potable water system deferred due to positive test for coliform.

MrYenko posted:

A: No, seriously, never drink from an airplane's "potable" water supply.

Dannywilson posted:

He's talking about Romania (another popular to-from the sandbox stopover) wrt the guards having SMG's.

Eej posted:

Just a couple things I noticed in your blogpost (if you care about typos), find+replace your "who's" to "whose" and "loose" to "lose" and you should be good (there might be more typos but those ones stood out to me).

MrYenko posted:

Godholio posted:

How hard is it to maintain a viable potable water supply? I'm having trouble figuring out how the big airlines get it so universally wrong. This is the first I've ever heard about this issue (though I wouldn't drink tap water on an airplane anyway).

Godholio posted:

(though I wouldn't drink tap water on an airplane anyway).

Cocoa Crispies posted:

I have, on an A380 in 2015. As far as I can tell, I'm not dead.

Safety Dance posted:

Is ice made from the airplane's potable water system? I thought it was brought in in bags from the catering company.

SeaborneClink posted:

Avro RJ85 carrying the Brazilian Football club Chapecoense went down in the mountains near Medellin Columbia. 72 + 9 crew on board. 6 survivors transported to local hospitals with severe trauma.