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Poque posted:Could very easily just be a one year play to allow a young Almora to go down and start everyday in AAA, wreck some poo poo and build up his confidence, and then come back to full time in '18. I think Almora's proven he can play at the major league level. I'm fine with him and Jay platooning at center next year, but I don't want to see Almora get sent down. Pancakes posted:I forgot, Jay also gets HBP at Rizzolike levels. I smell a clubhouse competition! Bryant actually had more HBPs in 2016 than Rizzo 
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:I think Almora's proven he can play at the major league level. I'm fine with him and Jay platooning at center next year, but I don't want to see Almora get sent down. I'd rather have Almora get every day ABs in AAA for a good chunk of the year since Szczur is out of options, we have no idea if La Stella will accept an assignment or just retire on the spot and nobody else you would expect to be a position player should be seeing any time in the minors (except maybe Soler, but I have a feeling he's not going to be a Cub on opening day anyway - in which case Almora should be on the MLB roster.)
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Dexo posted:Am I crazy for being 100% willing to give up Baez and those dudes for Sale with no hesitation We're deep enough offensively that I'd be completely on board with giving up Baez if it meant getting Sale in return.
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Nov 30, 2016 02:06
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R.D. Mangles posted:the white sox weren't so high and mighty about trading with the Cubs when David Aardsma was available. Or Jon Garland....
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Nov 30, 2016 02:12
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Speaking of players the Pirates fleeced for Nate McLouth, whatever happened to Gorkys Hernandez?
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Dingleberry Jones posted:Speaking of players the Pirates fleeced for Nate McLouth, whatever happened to Gorkys Hernandez? He was on the Giants last year
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CubsWoo posted:Fowler to Toronto is looking plausible Are they shopping Pillar then? I feel like Fowler loses a lot of his value if you stick him in a corner, even at Rogers.
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Julio Cruz posted:Are they shopping Pillar then? I feel like Fowler loses a lot of his value if you stick him in a corner, even at Rogers. From what I'm reading, no, Fowler would slot into a corner OF spot.
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Dingleberry Jones posted:Speaking of players the Pirates fleeced for Nate McLouth, whatever happened to Gorkys Hernandez? Appeared out of nowhere in August and played a bunch for the Giants down the stretch. I mean he was in AAA obviously but I'd literally never heard of him until they called him up. He started a playoff game!
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CubsWoo posted:From what I'm reading, no, Fowler would slot into a corner OF spot. Clearly you have Fowler in a RF spot and some of CF, Pillar in CF but covering most of LF, and Morales in LF when Edwin needs a day to DH. 
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Niwrad posted:That'd mean a bit of a dropoff in payroll for the Cubs this year. Wonder if they'll make a deal for a semi-expensive bullpen arm or something still. Or hoarding cash for next offseason to make a splash for a starter. I don't think we're going to be seeing any big signings. Maybe a big trade: there's still rumors abound about the Cubs looking at Archer/Gray/etc, but I think they're keeping the wallet fairly tight in preparation for 2017.
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The only silver lining to Fowler leaving at the moment is that we will be able to get his WS jersey at a clearance price. I will proudly buy one and wear it!
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The Berzerker posted:Clearly you have Fowler in a RF spot and some of CF, Pillar in CF but covering most of LF, and Morales in LF when Edwin needs a day to DH. The Pompey Era will begin and I can finally start calling the Jays outfield the Triumvirate.
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Apparently the Astros put in a serious bid for Yoenis which makes me think they might be willing to spring for Encarncion Man, that would have been a nice outfield
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So its looking all but certain Encarnacion is going to end up south of the border, possibly with the Astros. Boston/New York are looking like unlikely suitors at this point. Toronto made too low of a bid. Eddie's agent even made a comment about judging the offer from the team by also how bad their income tax levels are, so it seems he might be leaning towards Texas. God drat cheap rear end Jays. You've made like an extra half billion dollars over the past few years, spend some of it before the Leafs get good you idiots.
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VJeff posted:Man that's the big money. The Mets are dogshit without him offensively
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ZenVulgarity posted:The Mets are dogshit without him offensively I think they just don't have any runs to spare on offense. It's not that he's carrying it completely on his own but, that's too many runs for them to make up with what is largely an offense built around veterans who are just above average in their good years.
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If their rotation could actually stay healthy then maybe they wouldn't need every run they could scrape up to win. Too bad the Mets' answer to every injury concern their pitching has is "just pitch through it until your elbow explodes, you pussies."
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tadashi posted:Well, the Cubs signed Jon Jay for some reason. I guess he'll platoon with Almora. So, between them, we're basically getting 2015 Dexter Fowler if things go well. Jay doesn't really have lefty/righty splits and was actually better vs. LHP in 2016. He also has a noodle arm. He is, as people mentioned, A Cool Dude, though.
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I'd love it if the Mariners would trade for Sale, but I just don't think we have the farm system to do it.
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Now the Jays are attached to Curtis Granderson, apparently. Watching the Jays always narrowly avoid getting Jay Bruce is like watching those gifs where a giant asteroid barely misses hitting earth over and over. 
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Scob posted:jon jay is pretty much the perfect 4th outfielder who you wouldnt be embarrassed to start in center if you had to for a while Plus the whole "Chief Justice" nickname lets you yell stuff like "Motion for a double DENIED" when he makes a gratuitous layout catch.
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Scob posted:jon jay is pretty much the perfect 4th outfielder who you wouldnt be embarrassed to start in center if you had to for a while Does make me wonder what the hell the Cubs are going to do with Sczcur since that's the exact position he filled this year. He's out of options so unless the Cubs are carrying 5-6 outfielders there won't be any room for him.
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Chexoid posted:Now the Jays are attached to Curtis Granderson, apparently. Watching the Jays always narrowly avoid getting Jay Bruce is like watching those gifs where a giant asteroid barely misses hitting earth over and over. Fun fact: this isn't an asteroid- it was eventually identified as the spent third stage of the Apollo 12 rocket.
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Sydin posted:Does make me wonder what the hell the Cubs are going to do with Sczcur since that's the exact position he filled this year. He's out of options so unless the Cubs are carrying 5-6 outfielders there won't be any room for him. If you include Zobrist, Contreras, and Bryant, all of whom played a significant number of games in the outfield in 2016, the Cubs' 40-man roster is 25% outfielders. Hannemann won't make the 25-man to start the season, either Soler or Szczur will probably be traded, and that still leaves Almora, Heyward, Jay, and Schwarber.
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Orioles acquire Logan Verrett from the Mets for cash considerations. I'd joke that will be our big offseason move, but frankly I'm not willing to tempt fate that it would be true. 
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seiferguy posted:I'd love it if the Mariners would trade for Sale, but I just don't think we have the farm system to do it. I wonder if the Mariners could pry Montgomery away from the Cubs? But seriously I'm a little worried about the rotation in its current state, I'm trusting that JD has a plan but I'm not sure what other journeyman type guys are available if we don't go for Sale. Perhaps we'll get to see the grand return of Micah Owens! Is he even a starter?
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The Nards Pan posted:I wonder if the Mariners could pry Montgomery away from the Cubs? But seriously I'm a little worried about the rotation in its current state, I'm trusting that JD has a plan but I'm not sure what other journeyman type guys are available if we don't go for Sale. Perhaps we'll get to see the grand return of Micah Owens! Is he even a starter? keep fat shrek and stay away from montgomery
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Poque posted:keep fat shrek and stay away from montgomery but normal shrek is already fat
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https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/804021763558567936 Cutch is going to get traded to some great team and become a great player again while the Pirates get jackshit for him.
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Chexoid posted:Now the Jays are attached to Curtis Granderson, apparently. Watching the Jays always narrowly avoid getting Jay Bruce is like watching those gifs where a giant asteroid barely misses hitting earth over and over. I'd rather keep Granderson than Bruce considering he can sorta-kinda play a bit of center, but the return for him should be better too. Apparently the O's are in on Granderson as well so we'll see if Sandy can swing us a couple of decent prospects.
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TheChaosPath posted:Huh, I thought Micah Owings retired like 5 years ago The siren call of the Tacmoa Rainers was too much to resist.
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achillesforever6 posted:https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/804021763558567936 Well good news, the only contending teams that need centerfielders are the Cubs and Cardinals so you're still gonna see a ton of him!
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