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MeLKoR posted:Granted that I'm not a game dev but that's exactly how I'd do it, why gently caress around with rocket science? The problem is that: 1) they are lying about it; 2) they are doing a horrible job of it. But my fidelity
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I'd find the project way more interesting, and you know, actually feasible within a reasonable timeframe if their updates were "we cheated to achieve this, using this (clever) way, and that actually means better performance, or smoother controls or whatever". I bet part of their development problems come from trying to constantly find a balance between Chris vision of fidelity and complexity with the practical solutions that actually work and should be more than ok for the game. But you know, if you have to deal with a person in a managerial position yelling "but (last night) I dreamt it this way, make it so!" in your ear, then you end up with modules that don't fit together and planets of 1 terrabyte in size each.
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Dec 3, 2016 14:27
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It's entirely possible to make a space game, but star citizen isn't a space game. It's an over reaching fantasy. What would you be left with if you took away all the impractical elements? Some space ships and some fetch/kill quests. A viable video game like many before it.
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Dec 3, 2016 14:35
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TheLightPurges posted:Yea I think they'll make it to 2018 in some form. But they have to release something for SQ42 next year and that will be the end of them when they can't hide behind "alpha" anymore. The dream balloon has to pop at some point. The funny thing is the way the backers point at extremely slow progress then eventually delivering terrible, buggy, hacked together versions of the really easy stuff as if that somehow proves CIG can build all the ~DREAMS~ they've been promised. No-one ever said they can't build a 6v6 arena shooter, no-one ever said they can't build a shoddy 10v10 FPS game. No-one even said they can't build a tech demo featuring 3 stations with FPS, EVA and ship flying combined. The bit people say can't be done is the 100 star systems with 1000s of players playing together in the same universe with millions of AI controlled NPCs and hundreds of planets that you can land on and explore every square mile of hand-crafted, procedurally generated landscape complete with unique flora and fauna. I put this to Lazrin in the last thread but got no response... quote:Lazrin, answer me this. Point being it's all very well doing all the easy stuff but if you can never find a solution to make all the ridiculously complex stuff work you're not really making progress at all.
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Dec 3, 2016 14:51
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Hi everyone, hope you're all having a fabulous day of screaming at everything and saying how bad you think it is. This post is just a quick reminder for you all to call or visit your parents wherever possible because they love and care about you
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I.N.R.I posted:Hi everyone, hope you're all having a fabulous day of screaming at everything and saying how bad you think it is. This post is just a quick reminder for you all to call or visit your parents wherever possible because they love and care about you Star Citizen sucks eggs
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Dec 3, 2016 14:59
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TheLightPurges posted:How far do you think the "well you cant judge them on this release they're a rookie dev studio on their first time out" will carry them? I actually don't think that one will see much use, maybe in a couple bad reviews but the backers mostly use that to defend CIG's business practices and general incompetence, not the game itself It'll be fun to see if they manage to get sqlude out next year despite their best efforts. I was convinced they'd make it happen this year, at least a couple hours of gameplay with ten hours of cringy mocap cringe. I mean, how loving hard could it be
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TheLightPurges posted:Star Citizen sucks eggs Smash Mouth joke
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Dec 3, 2016 15:01
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aleksendr posted:Real world ? Maybe first release. But if it is not a top of the line game any critics worth his salt will get a poke at the 140m$ dev price. If by "get a poke at" you mean "will be paid from the 140m coffers to shut up and play nice" you are probably spot on. Advertisement money is a hell of a bribe.
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Dec 3, 2016 15:29
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Scruffpuff posted:Instead of actually modelling flight physics (mass of ship, power of thrusters, direction of thrust and the resulting acceleration and velocity etc.) they're actually doing it in reverse. By default the ship is assumed to be in one piece and therefore has their "default" tweak values for noclipping around. If the ship takes "damage" to a certain thruster, then the ship will fly differently based on that damage state. Example: Source your quotes. My immersion will not be broken.
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Dec 3, 2016 15:45
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Wrecked Angle posted:The bit people say can't be done is the 100 star systems with 1000s of players playing together in the same universe with millions of AI controlled NPCs and hundreds of planets that you can land on and explore every square mile of hand-crafted, procedurally generated landscape complete with unique flora and fauna. It can be done, possibly, if you had hundreds of servers to run them on and teams to code, monitor, and parallel develop on them . But not with a wonky engine, cloud data sharing, and a $10k espresso machine.
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Dec 3, 2016 15:47
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The second they said they were doing Cloud was when I knew they had no intention of succeeding. Any MMO worth a gently caress has their own servers they control.
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TheAgent posted:btw top execs are going to pay themselves out over $1m in bonuses this xmas That's nuthin'. There are high profile exits (end of year) also in the works that I'm hearing about. 3 confirmed thus far.
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Dec 3, 2016 15:58
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D_Smart posted:That's nuthin'. There are high profile exits (end of year) also in the works that I'm hearing about. 3 confirmed thus far. Can't wait for the game-changing blog about it Guaranteed legal action
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D_Smart posted:That's nuthin'. There are high profile exits (end of year) also in the works that I'm hearing about. 3 confirmed thus far. but they weren't high profile or nuthin
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Sure. We ever get you+me+bar in the same place and the same time, I would be happy to render proper sacrifices to our god together, no?
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TheAgent posted:well 3 people left two weeks ago (as I reported in my july blog) I wonder why Derek keeps trying to one-up you on leaks/info? Regardless, thanks for everything you have provided to the thread thus far, and for everything you will contribute in the future. You've proven to be a very reliable (and also funny in a not insane way) source.
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Ah, so this is why the thread fell on the control panel. It's like these people don't live in the real world, where schedules exist and falling behind them leads to bad poo poo like job loss and litigation. I mean, I guess that's a given; who the gently caress spends hundreds or thousands on a single video game?
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Dec 3, 2016 16:34
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Sabreseven posted:They kept your account open? They usually get all angry and stompy and close refunders accounts, mature company that they are. Yeah but they're poo poo at that too. My account stayed open and accessible for like a week after I got my refund. I had to email CS again and be like "Hey dudes I can still log in and still have all my ships and poo poo, y'all might want to fix that."
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D1E posted:I wonder why Derek keeps trying to one-up you on leaks/info? You may have missed the threads in the SC leaks subreddit that ripped Agents post assunder, proved him wrong line by line and painted him a Troll whom Derek falls for 
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AlbieQuirky posted:By "top execs" do you mean Chris Robber, his brother, his wife, and assorted asskissers? I wouldn't so much call them "asskissers" as I would "stinkhole leeches".
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"Oh neat CIG has new weapon artwork out, I wonder what creative and practical designs they've come up with..." "Hmm, that's actually not bad looking, aside from being really front-heavy. Something about that seems familiar though, I wonder where I've seen that befo-" 
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Beet Wagon posted:"Oh neat CIG has new weapon artwork out, I wonder what creative and practical designs they've come up with..." WTF is wrong with these people. Put this n reddit. TheLightPurges fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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Beet Wagon posted:"Oh neat CIG has new weapon artwork out, I wonder what creative and practical designs they've come up with..." Come on Beet, just think....why would they build the SC Verse with OWN or unique ideas when they don't spend their OWN money in the first place? 
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SelenicMartian posted:So, how many boxes has Ben got? All of them. It's Ben.
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D1E posted:I wonder why Derek keeps trying to one-up you on leaks/info? 1. remember its a video game 2. remember to lol
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Beet Wagon posted:"Oh neat CIG has new weapon artwork out, I wonder what creative and practical designs they've come up with..." What is all that poo poo under the barrel supposed to be?
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Mr.PayDay posted:Come on Beet, just think....why would they build the SC Verse with OWN or unique ideas when they don't spend their OWN money in the first place? That's... actually a depressingly good point. PhallicPhalanges posted:What is all that poo poo under the barrel supposed to be? Plasma stuff? For doing... plasma stuff, I guess. Unless you mean the titanfall gun, in which case I think it's to hold a grenade launcher really far forward for some reason.
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Mr.PayDay posted:You may have missed the threads in the SC leaks subreddit that ripped Agents post assunder, proved him wrong line by line and painted him a Troll whom Derek falls for
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PhallicPhalanges posted:What is all that poo poo under the barrel supposed to be? Extendable tie rack.
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TheAgent posted:there's a few steps to not being insane about star citizen: There aren't any sane people left that still talk about this game on a daily basis except for the people working on it and the people who have money invested in it
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Beet Wagon posted:Yeah but they're poo poo at that too. My account stayed open and accessible for like a week after I got my refund. I had to email CS again and be like "Hey dudes I can still log in and still have all my ships and poo poo, y'all might want to fix that." Haha, and there was me expecting them to do at least one thing correctly and professionally.  I wonder how many have had the same thing after getting their refund and upon noticing the error, sold all the things on the grey market before CIG noticed.  I.N.R.I posted:There aren't any sane people left that still talk about this game on a daily basis except for the people working on it and the people who have money invested in it Your idea of sanity differs greatly from mine and pretty much every person I know in the real world who has heard of SC. I did have a very enthusiastic 'backer' working for me at one point, but due to his constant idiocy and weird behaviour at work it was deemed necessary to relieve him of his employment, he just pissed everyone else off with the constant SC sales pitching that I'm amazed he wasn't accidentally 'misplaced' in some concrete.  Quote from his supervisor (lead first aider and part time paramedic) : "If he doesn't shut up about that stupid game I'm going to bend a shovel over his head".
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PhallicPhalanges posted:What is all that poo poo under the barrel supposed to be? <flails hands>It's a...<fails>...thingie...that...ummm...does physics!...Yeah...Stellar...erm...fidelity...uhhhh...enhancer....coming in 9.7.5.3.8.2.1.5. DOING IT!
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Beet Wagon posted:"Oh neat CIG has new weapon artwork out, I wonder what creative and practical designs they've come up with..." Sorry, I'm gonna have to disagree on that one, they aren't that similar. You could make the case for almost every modern gun being derived from some previous model. There's only so many ways you can configure and style some handles, a barrel and a trigger. Of course, whether you would want to go for a '21st century assault rifle' aesthetic in you space game set nearly 1000 years into the future is another matter.
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I.N.R.I posted:There aren't any sane people left that still talk about this game on a daily basis except for the people working on it and the people who have money invested in it You think those people are sane 
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Gun is generic, so what
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aleksendr posted:But it has already been presold to the vast majority of its audience since 2014 at the jolly tune of 45$. They should know if it is a success...
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Wrecked Angle posted:Sorry, I'm gonna have to disagree on that one, they aren't that similar. They literally have all the same angles. Look at the stock and mag especially. Its not an accident.
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Scruffpuff posted:Instead of actually modelling flight physics (mass of ship, power of thrusters, direction of thrust and the resulting acceleration and velocity etc.) they're actually doing it in reverse. So the final product will use even more processing power, assuming they ever stop cheating. This is probably another one of the absolutely giant obstacles they're facing, and once again they don't have the acumen to pull it off. Wrecked Angle posted:The bit people say can't be done is the 100 star systems with 1000s of players playing together in the same universe with millions of AI controlled NPCs and hundreds of planets that you can land on and explore every square mile of hand-crafted, procedurally generated landscape complete with unique flora and fauna. The part where you can do literally anything your mind can think of is also problematic, from rape to human trafficking to space court and filing interstellar insurance claims. Flarpy posted:That gets much more difficult in multi-crew ships. We can expect Seatbelt Flip (alpha) before Helmet Flip 2.0. Give it a couple of weeks. Prostheticfoot posted:Stimpire.txt  I.N.R.I posted:There aren't any sane people left that still talk about this game on a daily basis except for the people working on it and the people who have money invested in it I agree however that the old subforum title incl.: obsessive insanity was more apropos than the current
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MedicineHut posted:How do you respond to the usual sperg retort here about a ship flying wonky if it loses some of the lateral thrusters or what not? This what makes shillizens feel all warm and fuzzy inside and says it proves the fidelity of the accurate individual thruster modelling and calculations etc when discussing these things.   e: karma snype
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