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Quavers posted:Looking at the super-accurate funding-tracker SC is doing extremely well at bringing in more cash for not-in-game ships. Yea that's what I don't get. Something doesn't add up. They barely crack 10k views for their anniversary stream, regular streamers are lucky to get low 3 digits of users, forums and reddit are fairly slow. I'm supposed to believe they took in 7 million last month? I'm not saying its completely made up but there is stuff being counted in there that is throwing these way off. The community is far too small and interest demonstrably too low to consistently give these clowns 30-40 mil per year.
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quote:The men of Roberts Space Industries. https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/18921/for-anyone-that-wants-to-see-rsi-dancing-video-again
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Beet Wagon posted:"Oh neat CIG has new weapon artwork out, I wonder what creative and practical designs they've come up with..." Woah. That is a nice parking sensor.
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Wrecked Angle posted:If it's faked then how the hell are they managing to pay for multiple studios, hundreds of staff, mo-cap at imaginarium etc? Debt (secured by actual whale cash flow which is still insanely large). The only scenario that makes sense to me is they smear private borrowing through their system in a quasi-legal manner without actually correcting the notion that this is all freely given money from broken people
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PS this is probably what Derek's 'gonna get sued 100% end of story' blog was addressing. If they are manipulating this and lying about their actual funding then we got some good times ahead. They say all over their website they are a 100% crowdfunded project, that claim has to be complete bullshit but I have no idea if there is legal standards around the term crowdfunded
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Wrecked Angle posted:The funding tracker remains one of the unexplained mysteries of Star Citizen. TheLightPurges posted:Yea that's what I don't get. Something doesn't add up. They barely crack 10k views for their anniversary stream, regular streamers are lucky to get low 3 digits of users, forums and reddit are fairly slow. I'm supposed to believe they took in 7 million last month?
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Solarin posted:PS this is probably what Derek's 'gonna get sued 100% end of story' blog was addressing. If they are manipulating this and lying about their actual funding then we got some good times ahead. This investment group is a large group of normal people. Some could call it a crowd.
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Even Moma admitted in the last thread that he had to sell 2 ships with a 500$ loss because he couldn't pay rent or food.
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You guys you guys RELAY.SC is live! It also appears to be boring and insufferable. Truly, they are the successors of INN. 
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&userid=27157&perpage=40&pagenumber=13#post465274131TheAgent posted:current interesting rumor huh I wonder if this has anything to do with their "Best sale day EVER" from the Polaris and the "Best November total EVER" just last month? Roberts one weird trick for fraudulent inducement
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Solarin posted:Debt (secured by actual whale cash flow which is still insanely large). The only scenario that makes sense to me is they smear private borrowing through their system in a quasi-legal manner without actually correcting the notion that this is all freely given money from broken people It possible, but I actually doubt it. I think the sad reality is that they've tapped into a demographic who are both sad, lonely people, desperate to live out their fantasies through SC and at a point in their lives where they can commit moderately large sums of money to a project which promises to make that happen. We all know the 1.5 million backers is bullshit but even if you take 500k backers the average amount spent to date to justify the $137m figure is less than $300 per person. We know there are a fair number of whales out there in for 10's of thousands. Is it too much of a stretch to imagine that a large proportion of the others may be in for several hundred dollars... over a 5 year period? I'd have a much easier time believing that to be the truth than thinking that Crobberts and co had managed to convince a lender to give them a significant amount of money. For a lender to part with 10's of millions they're going to have wanted full disclosure, a comprehensive business plan, firm dates for repayment etc. I just don't see that as likely. It's like a twist on the old saying, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". I find it far easier to believe there are hundreds of thousands of middle-aged, desperate nerds around globe than RSI being clever enough to fudge the figures or get the cash from elsewhere. Quavers posted:If there's genuinely so much money available from eager backers, the grey market should have seen a resurgence back to "normal" pricing - buy at full price off CIG or grab at a discount from established traders? That such traders are struggling to shift "stock" is a very telling sign that funding is not as CIG/Turbulent are showing. Not if these people are genuine "backers" as opposed to just people buying ships. They know that RSI needs the fresh money so they're giving it to them. Most are probably nervous of the grey market as well, I know I would be. If you're going to spend hundreds of dollars you don't really want the risks involved with doing a dodgy deal. Wrecked Angle fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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Wrecked Angle posted:It possible, but I actually doubt it. I think the sad reality is that they've tapped into a demographic who are both sad, lonely people, desperate to live out their fantasies through SC and at a point in their lives where they can commit moderately large sums of money to a project which promises to make that happen. I promise you they are borrowing money on top of whatever they get for free from idiots. 300 employees 4 loving studios across the world. They are borrowing money e; because they can. and because FULL BURN (song is about their business model FYI)
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TheLightPurges posted:This investment group is a large group of normal people. Some could call it a crowd. Bootcha = crowd member State of Colorado = crowd member UK Treasury = crowd member
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mdxi posted:You guys you guys RELAY.SC is live! Join our hosts Neckbeard, Bowtie, that anorexic dude with a British accent and that guy in the wheelchair, for a two-hour crazy ride of non-stop skype action
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Join our hosts Neckbeard, Bowtie, that anorexic dude with a British accent and that guy in the wheelchair, for a two-hour crazy ride of non-stop skype action What's wrong with being in a wheelchair?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Join our hosts Neckbeard, Bowtie, that anorexic dude with a British accent and that guy in the wheelchair, for a two-hour crazy ride of non-stop skype action It's actually much, much worse  Twelve hour launch party Tijuana Bibliophile fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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I.N.R.I posted:What's wrong with being in a wheelchair? Did he say there was anything wrong with it?
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I.N.R.I posted:What's wrong with being in a wheelchair? It usually means you can't walk, which kinda sucks.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:It's actually much, much worse LOL loving Ben milking the spot light , he hasn't had any clue what's going on with SC for over a year Show them your boxes of literal garbage Ben
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I.N.R.I posted:What's wrong with being in a wheelchair? Nothing, it's just how people in the thread know him
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Sure. I'm looking at your email exchange now and request a title change for new thread: Star Citizen: posting as to get a rise out of others in a way not so good as you'd think
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"Will we ever get to see scrapped concepts of the Prowler? uuhh I dunno
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I.N.R.I posted:What's wrong with being in a wheelchair? Well, we're all bloods in here and we just don't like crips.
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SelenicMartian posted:So, how many boxes has Ben got?
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Thoatse posted:So where are we now on Mount Funding? CIG is claiming we're still in the green parts, but who knows? Since too much misanthropie is unhealthy, it's better to believe we're deep in the red zone and the tracker is a lie anyway. The longer this shitshow goes on, the more misanthropie you need to swallow the idea that people could be really that stupid and continue to throw tons of money at Star Citizen. Therefore, to keep your mental health in order, it becomes more and more necessary to will yourself into believing the tracker is a lie, since the alternative becomes more and more unbearable.  As to the truth of it in an objective sense, the tracker is probably all kinds of hosed, for all we know it could be tracking the proliferation of vermin in backers' households or some dumb poo poo like that.
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I.N.R.I posted:What's wrong with being in a wheelchair? Most people think it sucks if you can't walk.
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Sunswipe posted:The Volturi don't get paid for testing the game, do they? Their reward is just playing the game? And, of course, the adulation of all those adoring Shitizens. That's payment enough, no?
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Sunswipe posted:The Volturi don't get paid for testing the game, do they? Their reward is just playing the game?
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Libluini posted:CIG is claiming we're still in the green parts, but who knows? Since too much misanthropie is unhealthy, it's better to believe we're deep in the red zone and the tracker is a lie anyway. The longer this shitshow goes on, the more misanthropie you need to swallow the idea that people could be really that stupid and continue to throw tons of money at Star Citizen. Hello, I'm Chris Roberts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6lTSPXDOAI
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Wrecked Angle posted:We all know the 1.5 million backers is bullshit but even if you take 500k backers the average amount spent to date to justify the $137m figure is less than $300 per person. We know there are a fair number of whales out there in for 10's of thousands. Is it too much of a stretch to imagine that a large proportion of the others may be in for several hundred dollars... over a 5 year period?
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HycoCam posted:**raises hand** Hey, before we get the rape mechanic working--can we work on some diversity in the player model. Plowing the same middle-aged, bald dude over and over doesn't really get me out of my comfort zone. HycoCam posted:In the initial days, you only had to pledge $2,500 or more and ask via your concierge service to be added. Hopefully this has been tweaked and limited to owners of "cash only" recent purchases to test. Evocati sounds so much better than Givers. ripptide posted:And, of course, the adulation of all those adoring Shitizens. That's payment enough, no?
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Saladin Rising posted:Dumb question, what does "whales" mean specifically? If you mean the term, it's borrowed from the gambling world and is used for the small number of gambling addicts who contribute a disproportionate amount of your profits It's used to describe f2p players as well, where a common scenario is that 5% of your players pay anything, and about 5% of those players contribute as much as 90% of total sales
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Saladin Rising posted:Dumb question, what does "whales" mean specifically? In free to play games the majority of funding comes from a minority of players who have spent a disproportionate amount of money. Those players are called whales, which also has its origins in the gambling business to indicate someone able (and willing) to lose huge sums of money. In DC those players typically spend well over a grand and achieve special status like a private forum and personal assistant. In other words whales are the people who will be suing CIG if this goes tits up.
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Saladin Rising posted:Dumb question, what does "whales" mean specifically? Should probably be in the OP tbh.
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