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Silver2195 posted:What actually happened was pretty similar, just using the glass as a diversion to throw shuriken. Desuwa posted:A single shuriken only burying itself a few centimetres into her forehead is actually one of the tamest deaths. This was what got to me the most. We have La Pucille and Weiss Winterprison's deaths being pretty grandiose due to standing for their convictions or whatever you want to call it while Calamity Mary going apeshit on the general population only to be stopped in the most  way. At least we had Top Speed being pretty great during that fight.... 
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I'm going to finish watching the series but I think I hate it now. After this week's body count and "Oops, now we need to cull to 4 HA HA!" it's going to take a major plot twist to change my opinion. I knew what I was signing up for based on the show's description but I think this week pushed me too far.
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I feel that the announcement was kinda lame in how just tame it is; it lacks some of the inhuman cruelty that made Kyubei's actions memorable in a "You rat bastard" way. Fav at this point doing that is like a dog licking itself, you can only just nod and be unsurprised.
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Desuwa posted:I knew this was coming and it was still rough. Wait, they changed that? I thought that was one of the more cool/creative uses of a character's power (throwing a big glass pane so that the pieces still continue heading towards their target even after it's been destroyed). In the LN they establish that Calamity Mary is simply too skilled for any sort of normal sneak attack to work, so instead they come up with the glass thing as an attack she wouldn't see coming. Also Top Speed dying was the saddest thing, she was the best character. I think I actually dislike characters like Swim Swim more than characters like Calamity Mary. Calamity Mary is a terrible person, but she's terrible in a way that is more human in nature. Sociopaths like Swim Swim just strike me as aberrations that need to be put down. I could maybe sympathize if she was like 7 years old and had some sad backstory, but (unless they add something to the anime), a good reason is never really given for this 11 year old girl being cool with cold-blooded murder. edit: One thing that doesn't look like it's ever going to be explained is why some magical girls are really good at fighting while others aren't. At first I thought that fighting skills came included with certain powers (for instead Ripple having ninja skills or Calamity Mary having gun skills), but it seems like they don't really start out with anything other than the strength/speed of a magical girl and their magical ability, and that fighting skills are something they can learn later. I guess we're just supposed to assume that either some of the girls who were selected already knew how to fight or they had already been magical girls for a year+ and had been practicing. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Nov 27, 2016 |
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swim swim betrayed ruler because ruler was a poo poo leader who couldn't use either love nor fear also god drat it, who would have thought that phasing could be turned into a active defensive buff. that's terrifying. hardgore alice's regeneration is more powerful over the long run, but the regen doesn't help you attack when you've been lopped into little pieces
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Phobophilia posted:swim swim betrayed ruler because ruler was a poo poo leader who couldn't use either love nor fear That wasn't really her rationale for doing so (though it probably does explain why the others cooperated with her). She just interpreted Ruler's instructions literally in a way that lead her to think it was the right decision to kill/depose her.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I feel that the announcement was kinda lame in how just tame it is; it lacks some of the inhuman cruelty that made Kyubei's actions memorable in a "You rat bastard" way. The thing about Kyubey is that he wasn't a rat bastard for the sake of being a rat bastard. He was always working for the same agenda that, from his prospective, was perfectly fair and reasonable. He wasn't even cruel. Cruel is human and understandable. Cruel is a point of connection between the audience and the character. Kyubey was other in a way that made him more memorably horrible, because he didn't care about the suffering he inflicted, except how it advanced the bottom line. Going "Actually all of you die LOL" is just standard dickery. It's a "I am the bad guy" move, because of course the evil mascot doesn't keep his deals. Meanwhile, Kyubey's bit where he talked to Kyoko? That was brilliant, because you can see exactly how it keeps to his rules while implying all kinds of bullshit. The viewer knows Kyubey is taking her for a ride and has to watch someone sympathetic heading off to her death because Kyubey conned her into thinking she could save someone she cared about. All without one direct lie. It's easy to make an rear end in a top hat. It's pretty difficult to make a character as memorably hateful as Kyubey.
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chiasaur11 posted:The thing about Kyubey is that he wasn't a rat bastard for the sake of being a rat bastard. He was always working for the same agenda that, from his prospective, was perfectly fair and reasonable. He wasn't even cruel. Cruel is human and understandable. Cruel is a point of connection between the audience and the character. While Kyubey is definitely a better villain character than Fav, Fav doesn't really fill the same roll as Kyubey in the story. The main events of this series (Volume 1 of the LN) make more sense in the context of the series as a whole (where this is only a small portion of the greater plot), though obviously I won't spoil anything about that. Another character in Volume 2 had their power introduced, and it is pretty ridiculous. She ("Genopsycho") has a kind of sci-fi looking spacesuit thing that makes her completely invincible as long as she pulls the visor down. I'm guessing that she's still weak to stuff that isn't direct damage or to having her visor pulled up, but it's definitely Swim Swim/Alice-tier in terms of being pretty ridiculously good.
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 This is wonderful. In other news- how are alice and swim-chan going to bite it? Alice's healing powers suggest that she might be susceptible to some manner of chemical or nuclear change at the molecular level? Are you just going to have to attack swimswim's hands, since if she liquifies those she loses her weapon and is no longer a threat? Does it even work that way? If it did, wouldn't she have come out of swim-mode naked, since she would have swam through her own clothing? Poor Nana. Top Speed (RIP) got her moment of glory, Nana just got misery
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Kytrarewn posted:
For Swim-swim I'm assuming it's going to have to be a sneak attack, due to obvious reasons at this point.
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Kytrarewn posted:Poor Nana. Top Speed (RIP) got her moment of glory, Nana just got misery Well, Nana was also kind of dumb and was the one who put herself and Weiss into the situation (which was super obviously a trap, something that Weiss even mentioned beforehand) that resulted in Weiss dying in the first place, so she has a pretty good reason to kill herself other than just Weiss dying. Top Speed was a good person without also being naive to the point of stupidity.
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I thought Swim-Swim decided to depose Ruler because of the dream power girl telling her she should try to be the ruler, before she died?
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I was wrong. They totally loving would. 
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someone awful. posted:I thought Swim-Swim decided to depose Ruler because of the dream power girl telling her she should try to be the ruler, before she died?
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then nemurin is also evil i guess
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Nemurin was always evil.
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Alpha Kenny Juan posted:Nemurin was always evil. If she turns out to not actually be dead I'll flip my poo poo.
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Raenir Salazar posted:If she turns out to not actually be dead I'll flip my poo poo. She's just been involved in a lengthy appeals process with FavCorp over whether, in fact, helping resolve peoples' personality flaws through their dreams qualifies as helping them in real life, and whether she should have gotten candies during deathmatch week 1. EDIT: All the while being mourned, cremated, buried,etc.
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On the upside, there seems to be a better ratio of sane : sociopath girls in Volume 2 (maybe 3:1 as opposed to 1:1 in Volume 1). Probably my biggest issue with Volume 1 was how nearly half of all the characters were cool with cold-blooded murder. I also kind of like how Volume 2 is a mostly new story with a whole new cast of characters, but still advances the main plot some.
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going from 8 to 4 allowed magical girls is the least interesting way to progress things. if you were going to do that it makes more sense to leave some time in between, though i understand that in an anime that's not a super interesting part of the story.
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Now that I'm further along in Volume 2, I'm actually liking it a bit more than Volume 1. The setting is pretty interesting and the magical girls involved are also pretty fun and varied in their personalities/powers. edit: Also, "Yumenoshima Genopsycho" is a cool magical girl name edit2: (Minor Volume 2 LN spoilers)Oh poo poo I think I may have figured out who the traitor is and how they've managed to trick everyone else up until now. vvv Sorry, I'll spoiler that! I didn't really have any where else to comment on it and was trying to avoid anything that could be considered a spoiler, but you're right about that. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Nov 28, 2016 |
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Maybe don't do technically-not-spoilers for volumes that aren't even going to be covered by the anime. Or at least use spoiler tags. Hell I'd argue that knowing there is a traitor counts as a spoiler for the second arc.
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So I finished Volume 2. I highly recommend it; it fixed what was probably my biggest issue with Volume 1 (characters doing terrible things for questionable reasons). Pretty much everyone at least had some coherent motive and/or background explaining their actions and everything made sense at the end. I ended up being mostly wrong with my guesses about plot twists (or more accurately I picked up on some of the secondary plot twists but missed the main one). edit: Reading these side stories and Masked Wonder owns: quote:However, the bullets ricochet off the woman, as they gained speed again and began sticking into the walls and breaking windows. edit2: Man, Volume 3 is super thrilling and tense. The story finally seems to be moving into the main overarching plot. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Nov 29, 2016 |
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Magical Girl Over Justice 
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I feel really bad that I was right about Top Speed from the first time she mentioned six months now. 
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I popped into episode 8 randomly because it's just a thing I do sometimes with shows that I know are supposed to have messed up stuff in them, and boy it did not disappoint. Gonna have to check out the full season once all the episodes are out and I don't have to wait, and probably the LN after (or even before) that, since it sounds like it's got that sweet Rokka no Yuusha element to it that I absolutely can't resist.
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I can't say I'm enjoying this show. I will watch it because I want to know the story, but there's increasingly few moments I really enjoy sitting through.
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nielsm posted:I can't say I'm enjoying this show. I will watch it because I want to know the story, but there's increasingly few moments I really enjoy sitting through. I'm still enjoying it, I just wish that either the anime respected the author's reported creativity better (The thing involving throwing the window pane with perfect throw in the Ripple/Topspeed vs. Calamity Mary fight was a really cool idea, but the anime diluted it to nearly nothing) or that the author was a bit more creative himself, generally, about tactical uses of powers. "I've got a great idea- we'll go and introduce DLC weapons, because I've run out of ideas on how these guys can use their powers offensively!" is a bit of a copout, and the premise deserves better. My final opinion of the show is going to depend nearly entirely on how the characters take down SwimSwim and Alice, because it's obviously going to come down to "Oh yeah, we were going to cull it down to just one magical girl from the beginning, pyon" in the end.
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Kytrarewn posted:I'm still enjoying it, I just wish that either the anime respected the author's reported creativity better (The thing involving throwing the window pane with perfect throw in the Ripple/Topspeed vs. Calamity Mary fight was a really cool idea, but the anime diluted it to nearly nothing) or that the author was a bit more creative himself, generally, about tactical uses of powers.  the dlc weps requiring life to purchase was especially yawn-worthy when you realize that almost none of these chars are gonna live for more than a month anyway also, fav seems like a way too on the nose reference to kyubey (tbh, all of this anime seems to copy madoka magicka but in a worse way)
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Fav is more of a Monobear expy than Kyubei in the way he's shifting the goal posts out of malice. I think the DLC weapons at least serve a narrative purpose in terms of Swim-Swims characterization, and Snow Whites desperation. I dunno, I feel like the aren't a bad idea. Like there are people who you can easily see can't fight there way out of a paper bag with their non-basic abilities; so the weapons would serve as a good equalizer.
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Kytrarewn posted:I'm still enjoying it, I just wish that either the anime respected the author's reported creativity better (The thing involving throwing the window pane with perfect throw in the Ripple/Topspeed vs. Calamity Mary fight was a really cool idea, but the anime diluted it to nearly nothing) or that the author was a bit more creative himself, generally, about tactical uses of powers. Yeah the first arc isn't that great about characters using their powers in creative ways. Later arcs are much better in this regard, particularly the third arc. Regarding Fav, he makes more sense in the context of the series as a whole, but in this first arc I agree that he comes off as somewhat similar to Kyubey. edit: I think the first arc (and this anime as a result) suffers a bit from the fact that everything going on behind the scenes is obscured and not really explained until later (and I'm not sure if the anime will even get to this; it depends on if they do an epilogue covering the first arc's post-story thing). Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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The first volume reads at a breakneck pace and is very light on details. So far it's only the one scene that I'd say is worse in the anime and everything else has been substantially improved.
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Desuwa posted:The first volume reads at a breakneck pace and is very light on details. So far it's only the one scene that I'd say is worse in the anime and everything else has been substantially improved. This. Nemurin isn't even really a character in the LN.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Fav is more of a Monobear expy than Kyubei in the way he's shifting the goal posts out of malice. He even has Monobear's black-and-white color scheme. His cute traits come more from Kyubey, though.
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Silver2195 posted:This. Nemurin isn't even really a character in the LN. Speaking of Nemurin, it is later revealed in Arc 2 that, if she wanted, she could kill people in their dreams and cause them to die in reality in the process. So basically it's a really good thing Nemurin was a good person. edit: Nemurin does show up in one of the side-stories, along with the best magical girl Masked Wonder.
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Screw this series, man. This episode was a tear jerker. Can't wait till next week.
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yet again, best (remaining) girl was murdered. RIP Alice i didn't like the casual explanation of why the game started, though i'm not sure a big Evil Plan reveal would've been any better. might dig into the light novels after this since i'm curious to see how they continue from what i assume will be the ending wrt ~the world of magic~
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