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Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

nawledgelambo posted:

I'm the geometry clipping through the staircase



I'm the constant z-fighting in everything they show. :downsbravo:

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trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Raskolnikov posted:

I'm the constant z-fighting in everything they show. :downsbravo:

Hey, it is really difficult to deal with z-fighting after you hack together a 32-into-64 bit coordinate system.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

trucutru posted:

Hey, it is really difficult to deal with z-fighting after you hack together a 32-into-64 bit coordinate system.

They literally reversed the arse of their own universe.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
You can bet you rear end the ray-tracing algorithm they use to figure out which surfaces are closer to the camera is hosed-up beyond belief and cannot deal with their 64-bit implementation. Add to that artists who are given carte blanche to throw a billion triangles into everything and the poor algo must have developed self-awareness and killed itself.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

trucutru posted:

You can bet you rear end the ray-tracing algorithm they use to figure out which surfaces are closer to the camera is hosed-up beyond belief and cannot deal with their 64-bit implementation. Add to that artists who are given carte blanche to throw a billion triangles into everything and the poor algo must have developed self-awareness and killed itself.

The poor algorithm felt grief.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
Derek your site is down.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

TheLightPurges posted:

Yea that's what I don't get. Something doesn't add up. They barely crack 10k views for their anniversary stream, regular streamers are lucky to get low 3 digits of users, forums and reddit are fairly slow. I'm supposed to believe they took in 7 million last month?

I'm not saying its completely made up but there is stuff being counted in there that is throwing these way off. The community is far too small and interest demonstrably too low to consistently give these clowns 30-40 mil per year.

It is for the most part. That's what the nerfed blog was about. :(

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

trucutru posted:

You can bet you rear end the ray-tracing algorithm they use to figure out which surfaces are closer to the camera is hosed-up beyond belief and cannot deal with their 64-bit implementation. Add to that artists who are given carte blanche to throw a billion triangles into everything and the poor algo must have developed self-awareness and killed itself.

I remember one patch for EVE that was wonderful in that regard. They were updating the rendering to accept more complex models and shaders, but screwed something up pretty badly.

Somehow, the reference coordinate system got inverted, so all ships that used cached model data flew backwards, and all (predominantly) structures that used cached surface and texture data would be rendered “inside-out” — all polygon faces were pointing in the wrong direction, so you'd see the backside of the station being rendered on the inside, and the front of the station not being rendered at all.

It was a very confusing day in space until they emergency patched that one. :D

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Derek your site is down.

Yeah, server migration.

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/805117822041030656

Solarin posted:

PS this is probably what Derek's 'gonna get sued 100% end of story' blog was addressing. If they are manipulating this and lying about their actual funding then we got some good times ahead.

They say all over their website they are a 100% crowdfunded project, that claim has to be complete bullshit but I have no idea if there is legal standards around the term crowdfunded

It's worse than anyone thinks. Hopefully it will all come out soon enough. Just remember that I've been saying it's bullshit for over a year now.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard








ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Mirificus posted:

self-serving BS parading as a news site

Oh jesus the fremdschämen :negative: God I feel dirty just reading it.

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011
Hi, hope you're all enjoying screaming at the videogame. This is just a reminder for you to call or visit your parents where possible because they love and care about you and want to hear about the things you're getting up to

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Jake Acapella from 50 pounds ago.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009


Hahaha, so in the end they decided that stealing the INN name was a dumb idea?

Also loving lol at them having a "community manager". Let me guess, they got to pick their own job titles?

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
So the new Caterpillar looks interesting:



I wonder if it will carry smaller ships.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

So the new Caterpillar looks interesting:




Ahhh the Leafblower, such a majestic charot

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Certainly doesn't look like it's going to have any physics glitches.

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008

Erris sure is a modest and humble person.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
You just know they all wrote those themselves lol

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

I.N.R.I posted:

Hi, hope you're all enjoying screaming at the videogame. This is just a reminder for you to call or visit your parents where possible because they love and care about you and want to hear about the things you're getting up to

can you keep your message to just once every couple of days? Parents are starting to get pissed off with how often they're getting called

Saladin Rising
Nov 12, 2016

When there is no real hope we must
mint our own. If the coin be
counterfeit it may still be passed.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

If you mean the term, it's borrowed from the gambling world and is used for the small number of gambling addicts who contribute a disproportionate amount of your profits

It's used to describe f2p players as well, where a common scenario is that 5% of your players pay anything, and about 5% of those players contribute as much as 90% of total sales

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

In free to play games the majority of funding comes from a minority of players who have spent a disproportionate amount of money. Those players are called whales, which also has its origins in the gambling business to indicate someone able (and willing) to lose huge sums of money. In DC those players typically spend well over a grand and achieve special status like a private forum and personal assistant.

In other words whales are the people who will be suing CIG if this goes tits up.

tooterfish posted:

Chasing the Whale.

Should probably be in the OP tbh.
Interesting, thanks. I knew about that type of mentality, and now I know there's a specific term to describe people like that.

So the big clue that Star Citizen is about to implode (as in "bankruptcy", not the usual day-to-day implosions) will be when multiple whales all start to jump ship at around the same time.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Saladin Rising posted:

Interesting, thanks. I knew about that type of mentality, and now I know there's a specific term to describe people like that.

So the big clue that Star Citizen is about to implode (as in "bankruptcy", not the usual day-to-day implosions) will be when multiple whales all start to jump ship at around the same time.

Not necessarily as they are remarkably dumb

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Been going over the attic again, looking for stuff that would be worth reposting on the first pages of this thread for ease of access in the future. Holy poo poo did we make a shitload of Ben gifs. He's really photogenic.








https://i.imgur.com/SgdCvyp.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/e0sMmBf.mp4



https://i.imgur.com/gQEgaz6.mp4



https://i.imgur.com/czSPJQt.mp4



https://i.imgur.com/MGKIVOT.mp4
















I'm going to be dumping this in several parts over the next few days. I considered posting the GIFs instead of the MP4s for the extra immersion in the Star Citizen experience but in the end decided against it.

Wrecked Angle
May 12, 2012

"JURASSIC PARK!"

starkebn posted:

can you keep your message to just once every couple of days? Parents are starting to get pissed off with how often they're getting called

But if you don't call your parents half a dozen times a day you're not fulfilling your true goon duty. Forget the fact that 68.94% of goons still live in their parents basements...

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

Mirificus posted:

[url=https://relay.sc/about-us]



Relay MUST be as innovative and ground breaking as star citizen. Our mission statement is that we regurgitate existing content created by others.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

So the new Caterpillar looks interesting:



I'm most excited by the fact that we won't have another Caterpillar update on ATV (until they decide to rework it).

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Describing yourself as a creative genius gets you to at least an 8 or 9 on the insufferable oval office scale all by itself.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Couple of favorites from the poo poo what I made:









Breetai posted:

Relay MUST be as innovative and ground breaking as star citizen. Our mission statement is that we regurgitate existing content created by others.

Sad thing is, a site that actually analyzed CIG's development and funding would be a worthwhile project.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Hey guys please consider there are other threads you could image-dump into that will not inconvenience those of us without unlimited internet, as nice as it is to see the creativity of goons.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Raskolnikov posted:

I'm the constant z-fighting in everything they show. :downsbravo:

trucutru posted:

Hey, it is really difficult to deal with z-fighting after you hack together a 32-into-64 bit coordinate system.

I think they not only hacked it to 64-bit, they also shrunk all of the characters to something inappropriately small. So it's likely a combination of bad decisions that lead to this broken mess.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Sunswipe posted:

Couple of favorites from the poo poo what I made:




Yeah, that was a masterstroke.

Ever had opportunities to tell a loved one about bizarre poo poo that this dumpster fire produced? Yet realize around five minutes into the conversation it would take another 20 hours of background stories to get them up to speed?

That is what I find the most sickening and heartbreaking truth.

grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012

Hav posted:

Yes, yes it was. But the first game broke a hell of a long dry spell for sci-fi RPGs, and the second one hit all the notes for a wide and magnificant space opera that didn't make a lick of sense, and I loved it.

ME3 has been sulking at me from a bullshit encounter with three of the Blue banshee bitches and a horror of the ending. It's close to Dragon Age 2 levels of disappointment.


You can get it OTC without paying the prescription.

Dragon age 2 was absolutely fantastic. The only lovely thing about it was the constant re-use of the same loving caves and map areas. Beyond that the story was incredible.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

I.N.R.I posted:

Hi, hope you're all enjoying screaming at the videogame. This is just a reminder for you to call or visit your parents where possible because they love and care about you and want to hear about the things you're getting up to

If I shout downstairs loud enough they can hear me just fine :smugdog:

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

So the new Caterpillar looks interesting:



I wonder if it will carry smaller ships.



MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

ewe2 posted:

Hey guys please consider there are other threads you could image-dump into that will not inconvenience those of us without unlimited internet, as nice as it is to see the creativity of goons.

This is pretty great, thanks.

grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012


The sickening and heart breaking truths of the stimpire need to be sent to them since they host the beat sc fiction.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Colostomy Bag posted:

Yeah, that was a masterstroke.

Ever had opportunities to tell a loved one about bizarre poo poo that this dumpster fire produced? Yet realize around five minutes into the conversation it would take another 20 hours of background stories to get them up to speed?

That is what I find the most sickening and heartbreaking truth.

Met up with a friend a few months ago and I started to briefly explain this bizarre thing I'd been following online. Constantly interrupting my own outline with "Oh, and this crazy thing happened as well, which led to..." Although I don't think anything really tops the reaction you get to "People are spending hundreds of dollars on imaginary spaceships for a game that isn't finished, from a company with no plan of how to make it, run by a man who got run out of the games industry for loving up this exact same idea before. Oh, and his VP of marketing is his ex-tickle-pornstar wife. No really, people are paying hundreds of dollars. There's one guy who's in for like 30 grand."

If/when this thing finally collapses or explodes, I honestly hope someone does a book on it. A news story just wouldn't be able to cover even a fraction of the story.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
For a long time CIG never went under $20k a day, anything drifting that direction caused a sale.

After 2.0 shipped last year, their low end daily between sales was 70k/day for a couple of months, new gameplay, ok you can see that generating interest. Since then sales have been so often the daily figure hasn't had time to settle down.

They have just finished a massive sale, biggest ever, they sold everything so the whales will have been spending like crazy. As far as I know (because I've started to lose interest) there's no sale currently on.



So, no whales should be spending, as nothing special on sale and they should be tapped out for a couple of weeks anyway. The low end starter package is $45, so according to the chart, CIG are getting ~1000 new punters a day, 4+ years after the kickstarter with no new game play for 6 months and their major fan site videos get hundreds of views per show?

Something badly stinks about the current funding figures, it's just not believable.

The new Citizen forum on RSI has 3 threads with a post in them today, 2 threads active yesterday.

AP fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Dec 4, 2016

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Sunswipe posted:

Met up with a friend a few months ago and I started to briefly explain this bizarre thing I'd been following online. Constantly interrupting my own outline with "Oh, and this crazy thing happened as well, which led to..." Although I don't think anything really tops the reaction you get to "People are spending hundreds of dollars on imaginary spaceships for a game that isn't finished, from a company with no plan of how to make it, run by a man who got run out of the games industry for loving up this exact same idea before. Oh, and his VP of marketing is his ex-tickle-pornstar wife. No really, people are paying hundreds of dollars. There's one guy who's in for like 30 grand."

If/when this thing finally collapses or explodes, I honestly hope someone does a book on it. A news story just wouldn't be able to cover even a fraction of the story.

Ding ding exactly.

I'm not sure how one would begin to craft the book. Hell you'd have to start with the Wing Commander days, followed up with race horses and a used car dealership and then the kickstarter fest. That is a fiasco just getting to that point.

But the real treasures are like you pointed out. You'd be explaining the story and then have to catch yourself with tales of the tickler, the hate speech Ben rantings and creepy pictures, all the different *gates, spitting on the cake, devious ship sales, etc.

In the end, the "would you believe people have dumped thousands into this" is probably the most effective. So combine it all along with the Stimpire poo poo, and sprinkle our Warlord blogs into this the book would be more convoluted than the existing source code. Poetic justice in the grand scheme of things.

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I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011

starkebn posted:

can you keep your message to just once every couple of days? Parents are starting to get pissed off with how often they're getting called

I apologise for the inconvenience. But no

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