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RandomPauI posted:Bad news about the Phillips Hue. That's awesome (if you don't have Philips Hue). Hopefully Philips has their equipment set to automatically apply firmware updates, because who the hell thinks about updating the firmware on their lightbulbs? At least with my Iris setup I apply updates as soon as I see them because I'm always hoping it will stop being such a cobbled together mess  Spy_Guy posted:I thought WPS was supposed to be kept off at all times because last thing I heard it is hideously insecure. Going back to this, I think only PIN based WPS is insecure and the button based WPS is reasonably secure (as long as you don't let miscreants touch your router, which you shouldn't do anyway). Not that this matters to the discussion at hand because most smart appliances aren't even talking on the same frequency as WiFi (just want to make sure this is clear to the slow kids at the back of the class, not you in particular).
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I forsee Internet of Things to be in this thread before the end of the decade, if manufacturers keep pumping out insecure garbage like they currently are. Wasn't someone saying a large part of the attacking nodes on the latest dyn attack were internet connected web cams that had intentional manufacturer backdoors with default passwords?
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Collateral Damage posted:I forsee Internet of Things to be in this thread before the end of the decade, if manufacturers keep pumping out insecure garbage like they currently are. Web-enabled appliances, smart TVs, that sort of thing apparently.
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Most IOT devices are pumped out for pennies by companies that have no interest in security or maintenance because they normally just sell regular light bulbs or w/e. They bulk buy the circuitry and do the bare minimum to make it work with the product.
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It's not like the end user cares either, so the only real options are government regulations or a bunch of hackers exploiting these devices in a conspicuous way. If your hack bricks a lot of devices, forcing an expensive recall, that might cause these companies to care about security. Then again, it could lead to the companies lobbying the government to prevent future recalls and excluding hacking related damages from product warranties.
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One security researcher bought one of those devices, set it up and had botnet malware on it in under two minutes.
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Keiya posted:I want something I can yell at to turn off the lights when I'm snuggled up in bed, but other than that typing is more efficient than talking. Girlfriends are not obsolete or useless just because you don't have one.
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Holy poo poo, I love this. This is my favorite so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWP4n4BfAYo
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Toast Museum posted:Holy poo poo, I love this. I genuinely do not know whether that is a spoof or real product.
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spog posted:I genuinely do not know whether that is a spoof or real product. After finally watching the video, I don't know, either. Is this real? Can I buy it? Do I have to be A Spaniard to do so?
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well why not posted:M$X
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Collateral Damage posted:I forsee Internet of Things to be in this thread before the end of the decade, if manufacturers keep pumping out insecure garbage like they currently are.
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bongwizzard posted:I basically at the point where I only physically type on my phone I'm sending a work email. Otherwise I just hit a button shout into the phone and mash post.
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:My phone's speech-to-text is usually spot on but I'm taking a break from it for a while because last week it sent a text to Mrs. Fai the other day that read "OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS OMAHA STEAKS" when I was trying to remind her to pick up paint for the living room on her way home That's the best glitch I've ever heard of.
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Dewgy posted:That's the best glitch I've ever heard of. Or it's a rollout of an advertising header and/or footer on your text messages that borked up. I probably shouldn't even say something like that, the fuckers will probably do it. "For only an additional $10 a month you can text without ads!"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfCfTYZJWtImoller posted:So when I replace a light bulb, in addition to getting a ladder, I've gotta choose my SSID and type my password, ehr, on the lightbulb? Collateral Damage posted:I forsee Internet of Things to be in this thread before the end of the decade, if manufacturers keep pumping out insecure garbage like they currently are. 
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GWBBQ posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfCfTYZJWtI Root it and do something dastardly on a long timer. Like a 'got milk?' pop up every morning. ^ never trust the shop to ever reset the thing. When I was retail there was a never ending stream of calls for us to get techs out to disable display mode on cooktops (ie actually giving the elements power)
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Many years ago one of the banks in my town had an info terminal, and I accidentally discovered that you could make it crash on a specific action and return to Windows. Returned a few days later with two of my nerd buddies in tow, we confirmed it was reproducible, and we went exploring until we came across a text file where another visitor had left a sternly worded message about IT security to the bank's IT department. That was about all we'd wanted to do so we just set the color scheme to something garish and left. This was around the turn of the century, but who knows what else that thing was hooked up to.
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well why not posted:M$X Clapper switches and remote controls already exist
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My Lovely Horse posted:Many years ago one of the banks in my town had an info terminal, and I accidentally discovered that you could make it crash on a specific action and return to Windows. Returned a few days later with two of my nerd buddies in tow, we confirmed it was reproducible, and we went exploring until we came across a text file where another visitor had left a sternly worded message about IT security to the bank's IT department. That was about all we'd wanted to do so we just set the color scheme to something garish and left. This was around the turn of the century, but who knows what else that thing was hooked up to. I remember reading some HOW TO BE A LEET HAXOR book back in the 90s and it had some tips about how to break out of the fullscreen search application used by libraries. I tried it out, and was shocked when typing xxx actually did work. I think I was just mostly amazed that a book had currently relevant info on computers.
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Was watching Star Trek Beyond when I noticed this. The locks for the gates is a made with a 36mm film synchroniser which has been rigged to spring open (as it does anyway to lock the film in).  Perhaps not as obvious as the Dyson hand driers. 
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I was at one of those automated 'cash for phones' kiosks a while back and noticed somehow it had been on the Windows desktop instead of the application for trading in phones, but it was still fully connected to the internet. So you could actually open up IE and do some browsing while the OS was also giving a warning message this this might be a potentially unlicensed copy of Windows.
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JediTalentAgent posted:I was at one of those automated 'cash for phones' kiosks a while back and noticed somehow it had been on the Windows desktop instead of the application for trading in phones, but it was still fully connected to the internet. So you could actually open up IE and do some browsing while the OS was also giving a warning message this this might be a potentially unlicensed copy of Windows. I saw an ATM running TinyXP once. Like gently caress I'll ever use it again.
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Humphreys posted:I saw an ATM running TinyXP once. Like gently caress I'll ever use it again. You tend to see that sort of poo poo from nonbank ATMs, since they don't have to plug into 30+ year old software on the back end and can just use modern interfaces for Fedwire or CHIPS instead (Euro ATMs would use TARGET2). Now, if your actual bank isn't using signed, made to order software (preferably as firmware and not on a general purpose OS) for their ATMs, get another bank.
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http://www.techspot.com/news/55388-95-percent-of-the-worlds-atms-still-run-windows-xp.html That's a lot of ATMs.
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XYZ posted:http://www.techspot.com/news/55388-95-percent-of-the-worlds-atms-still-run-windows-xp.html Tiny XP isn't a real official version of XP. It is a hacked up version that has most of the services and features stripped out. I guess you could argue that it might be more secure than a real copy of XP since it has fewer services running, so it has few exploits. But I wouldn't trust any of my personal information to a device that someone cobbled together using a hacked pirate copy of a 16 year old OS.
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Possibly worth noting that the terminal we "hacked" (I hesitate to use the term; the application crashed on nothing more than visiting a certain submenu) ran on Windows 3.1. Again, turn of the century-ish, 2002-03 if anything.Light Gun Man posted:I remember reading some HOW TO BE A LEET HAXOR book back in the 90s and it had some tips about how to break out of the fullscreen search application used by libraries. I tried it out, and was shocked when typing xxx actually did work. I think I was just mostly amazed that a book had currently relevant info on computers.  I hope the book was at least from the library itself.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Possibly worth noting that the terminal we "hacked" (I hesitate to use the term; the application crashed on nothing more than visiting a certain submenu) ran on Windows 3.1. Again, turn of the century-ish, 2002-03 if anything. Sadly I don't think that library was even cool enough to have weird haxor books.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Speaking as a librarian, currently relevant info is the last thing you need to get into our ancient-rear end systems. 
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Lowen SoDium posted:Tiny XP isn't a real official version of XP. It is a hacked up version that has most of the services and features stripped out. I guess you could argue that it might be more secure than a real copy of XP since it has fewer services running, so it has few exploits. But I wouldn't trust any of my personal information to a device that someone cobbled together using a hacked pirate copy of a 16 year old OS. Thanks for explaining what I neglected to say. Someone went to the effort of using TinyXP but not the effort of using proper channels of software.
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WebDog posted:Was watching Star Trek Beyond when I noticed this. 
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I wanted to post pics of some old consumer electronics made from Bakelite, but then Young's Rectal Dilators (Improved!) by Austin & Zak, on Flickr
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"Raumpatrouille Orion" was notable for having to recycle everyday items as props owing to the very low budget at the time making it impossible to create something from scratch. Granted this isn't uncommon in any production as you only have months to plan and dress many so many sets so re-purposing things is a quick and easy way to create multiples of one item that isn't going to take time having to create casts and moulds for. For example The Phantom Menace has a communication device being primarily made from a ladies shaver and a gun barrel being made from a BBQ lighter.  The original series has a ton more of this stuff ranging from vision switchers as the Death Star firing control panel to bubble wrap being used on costume parts.
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Trabant posted:I wanted to post pics of some old consumer electronics made from Bakelite, but then I didn't see the issue at first, as dilators are used for serious cases of vaginismus, then I realized these were rectal dilators.
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WebDog posted:"Raumpatrouille Orion" was notable for having to recycle everyday items as props owing to the very low budget at the time making it impossible to create something from scratch. Granted this isn't uncommon in any production as you only have months to plan and dress many so many sets so re-purposing things is a quick and easy way to create multiples of one item that isn't going to take time having to create casts and moulds for. I just like to imagine that the guy on Cloud City really didn't want the Empire to steal his ice cream maker.
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WebDog posted:"Raumpatrouille Orion" was notable for having to recycle everyday items as props owing to the very low budget at the time making it impossible to create something from scratch. Granted this isn't uncommon in any production as you only have months to plan and dress many so many sets so re-purposing things is a quick and easy way to create multiples of one item that isn't going to take time having to create casts and moulds for.
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