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Das Boo posted:I guess if you're incapable of empathy, sure, which is why it's such an unpopular opinion on here. Relationship wise i totally agree. I meant more politically or Issues based discussions. I also enjoy buying gifts for others. It feels good man.
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Das Boo posted:I genuinely like buying people gifts and it sucks when people deride you for buying into the commercialism. I just wanted to get you something cool, bro. I wanna buy you things too, Boo.
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MisterBibs posted:I legitimately like the Warhammer 40k setting and story. Not because it's Hard Men Making Hard Decisions, not because it's a way to indirectly say you like fascism. I like it because it's a grand tragedy. The 40k setting is great because it's completely impossible to take seriously and everything seems like it was created by a team of ten-year-olds one-upping each other.  OK, so I've come up with a character. He's a marine, but in space. That's cool, but what if he was 9 feet tall? And he's got a flamethrower. And a sword. No, a sword that's a chainsaw! And he's part robot! And there's skulls all over the place. And they're on fire!
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My character resists death with infinite willpower Your character's mind is shattered with the endless chaos of the abyss :goto10:
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To complete the feminist-slant of the movie Mad Max: Fury Road, Tom Hardy's role should have gone to Amy Schumer
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The Saddest Rhino posted:To complete the feminist-slant of the movie Mad Max: Fury Road, Tom Hardy's role should have gone to Amy Schumer Mt unpopular opinion is that I don't think Fury Road is very feminist at all.
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Imgur is a lovely circle jerk of a community that generally isn't funny.
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Tiggum posted:The 40k setting is great because it's completely impossible to take seriously and everything seems like it was created by a team of ten-year-olds one-upping each other. I totally get that; it's like I've got two prisms when looking at the whole setting. There's this one that makes everything  , and there's one that makes everything look  .There's a line stashed away somewhere in a text file about the 40k setting that has always stuck with me, but damned if I can find it. Paraphrased, the line is "In 40k, the only person who can see just how rapidly the universe is burning is the only man who can do nothing but watch and weep."
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MisterBibs posted:"In 40k, the only person who can see just how rapidly the universe is burning is the only man who can do nothing but watch and weep." Nice, I think I saw that shirt at Hot Topic
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Dec 7, 2016 06:43
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Solice Kirsk posted:Mt unpopular opinion is that I don't think Fury Road is very feminist at all. It's not really trying to make any bold political statements as far as I can tell. I think dumb internet writers really just ran with the "Miller consulted the vagina monologues lady" thing and ran it into the ground. I think he didn't want the whole "saving sex slaves" aspect to be offensive. Which they did end up handling pretty well.
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It's silly to put too much stock in the message of a piece of art, whether it's ostensibly progressive or conservative or feminist or whatever. Most of those things are what the viewer make sure of the thing more so than things that are intrinsic to the film itself - if you hold something up as a purposeful exemplar of some value you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. If I was making a movie or writing a book or producing a TV show, I'd pander to whatever demographic looked like the it was most likely to sink its money into the merchandise and I would do so totally insincerely. It would be the easiest fib I ever had to tell.
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I think Fury Road is also called feminist because if you ever have a big enough group of women in one visible place, it'll be called feminist. If a group hosted a panel of eight men discussing, say, economics, nobody would blink twice. If the same group hosted eight women, it'd be called a feminist discussion, or a discussion from a feminist perspective, regardless of content. I mean, it also wouldn't happen that you'd get a panel of eight women giving a talk that wasn't specifically gender related, but that's another gripe for another day. So I guess my PHUO is we need to stop reflexively labeling things as "feminist" just because a bunch of women happen to be involved (but if it is feminist, then great, go for your life).
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Wheat Loaf posted:It's silly to put too much stock in the message of a piece of art, whether it's ostensibly progressive or conservative or feminist or whatever. Most of those things are what the viewer make sure of the thing more so than things that are intrinsic to the film itself - if you hold something up as a purposeful exemplar of some value you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.  Gee, I wonder if this movie is trying to say anything about women or feminism.
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Y'all are over thinking it because of years of being told "feminist" is a bad word. If it doesn't support the patriarchy, it's feminist. That's all it needs to be.
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:Nice, I think I saw that shirt at Hot Topic lol you were in a Hot Topic
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I've seen more than a few people call Fury Road man-hating feminazi propaganda so I'd say it's feminist enough to make a point
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They should have hired more than one competent female actor then. Besides Furiosa all but one of the rest of the women could have been cut from the movie without missing a beat. Also: WampaLord posted:
This is kinda funny since the women are basically a McGuffin in the film.
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Pastry Mistakes posted:Imgur is a lovely circle jerk of a community that generally isn't funny. such an unpopular hot take
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WampaLord posted:Gee, I wonder if this movie is trying to say anything about women or feminism. I didn't say it was any kind of uniform rule, and in any event didn't mean to talk about Mad Max in particular. You can trust a dishonest person to let you down but you can't necessarily trust an honest person not to.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I didn't say it was any kind of uniform rule, and in any event didn't mean to talk about Mad Max in particular. My bad, the person before you posted this: veni veni veni posted:It's not really trying to make any bold political statements as far as I can tell. I think dumb internet writers really just ran with the "Miller consulted the vagina monologues lady" thing and ran it into the ground. I think he didn't want the whole "saving sex slaves" aspect to be offensive. Which they did end up handling pretty well. and I assumed you were adding your consensus to it. I guess it's up to you (veni veni veni) if "We are not things" is or isn't a bold political statement, but considering our President elect has said you can just grab women by the pussy, I would say it's one that needed to be stated.
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WampaLord posted:My bad, the person before you posted this: It's no problem. I'm not saying art or media don't ever have any intrinsic messages or themes, and I'm certainly not saying that they shouldn't. As to the former, everything a person creates will have something to say, and many are indeed open to many different interpretations even in spite of what their creators' explicit intentions may have been. I guess the point I was aiming for was, "We should accept the Death of the Author principle, but we shouldn't rely on it in such a way that we set ourselves up for disappointment," in a situation where (as I suggested I probably would be) the person behind the thing was totally cynical about it and knew the audience would eat anything up if they dressed it up properly. (I'm probably not explaining it very well.)
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My consensus is that it's exhausting how much ideological discussion people think they need to have over dumb pop culture stuff. Arguing about this poo poo has become as much a form of escapism as the media itself.
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The term "patriarchy" is an incredibly nebulous concept and maybe, just maybe, feminists should need to leave it out of discourse aimed at mass audiences because besides being hard to define it can also sound somewhat insulting to the uninformed. Which is a bad thing. That's not to say it isn't a thing, however.
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Someone way smarter than me came up with this summation that has stuck with me for years:quote:Patriarchy is a social system in which men are expected to dominate the central roles of leadership and authority. It is perpetuated through cultural norms and concepts which have roots from long before any of us were born. Patriarchy is not a secret cabal of men plotting ways to oppress women. It describes the entire structure of a given society, from the roles we are expected to play to the qualities and values which we perceive to be superior. It can be enforced and upheld by anyone, regardless of whether it benefits them or not. === Generic malt-o-meal versions of cereals are all better than the actual cereal they're generic versions of. Especially their honey bunches of oats with almonds.
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Aramek posted:Generic malt-o-meal versions of cereals are all better than the actual cereal they're generic versions of. Especially their honey bunches of oats with almonds. This holds true for most with the only exception springing to mind being Crispy Hexagons. They are way worse than Crispix, the best cereal.
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Well, yeah, nothing can beat Crispix at its own game. But I was meaning specifically malt-o-meal brand generics. Other generics are fine, but malt-o-meal beats them all. To my knowledge, they've never attempted to infringe upon Crispix. Aramek has a new favorite as of 00:11 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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Malt-o-Meals are literally the Post cereals. They're made in the same factory, I know someone who works there. Crispix is a Kellogg's cereal, and Kellogg's doesn't do quite the same thing as Post.
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MisterBibs posted:I legitimately like the Warhammer 40k setting and story. Not because it's Hard Men Making Hard Decisions, not because it's a way to indirectly say you like fascism. I like it because it's a grand tragedy. Lunchmeat Larry posted:it's a joke setting actually Tiggum posted:The 40k setting is great because it's completely impossible to take seriously and everything seems like it was created by a team of ten-year-olds one-upping each other.  It's an unusual setting in the sense that the game/hobby existed before the lore so the lore just went hog wild in justifying the game & hobby and it sorta worked (if your inner child's no older than 13 anyway). Everything so dark and grim because the setting's built around a tabletop wargame, and not the other way around as when you're borrowing an IP to make a new game, so everything's absolutely war-centric but in a light way since it's consumed through a TT game. The sillier parts of the lore's exist so you can model whatever dumb, insane thing you think's cool on your tiny space man with a lot of leeway. The creators were university-educated nerds who obviously had a lot of fun on this project and used it to get out whatever else was on their minds. Incidentally, for example, they shared a local british pub frequented by miners during the Thatcher government so they also used the setting to poke fun at the UK's prominent figures and policies via amateur Orwellian satire essentially. Anyway, 40k's pretty alright for a setting if you don't mind popcorn fiction and it offers a good example of function meeting purpose. It's not a deep and serious setting because it doesn't need to be. hard counter has a new favorite as of 00:45 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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Well What Now posted:The term "patriarchy" is an incredibly nebulous concept and maybe, just maybe, feminists should need to leave it out of discourse aimed at mass audiences because besides being hard to define it can also sound somewhat insulting to the uninformed. Which is a bad thing. This is the weirdest thing and it applies to almost all left leaning causes, from vidya game representation to gunpoint communism. There are so many ways to get a message across but they always pick the one which is the most confrontational and alienating to the people they have to convince. It's like they think if they rage angrily enough the universe will recognise they're right and adjust itself.
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Pick posted:Malt-o-Meals are literally the Post cereals. They're made in the same factory, I know someone who works there. That's true of a lot of generic or store brand things, actually. In many, many cases it's exactly the same stuff in less fancy packaging, maybe with slightly cheaper ingredients.
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We're about to enter a Dark Age for LGBT rights in the U.S. Hope you enjoyed 2014, 2015, and 2016, because that poo poo's going bye-bye in 2017. If you're an LGBT person above a certain age, prepare for the rest of your life to loving suck.
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Blue Star posted:We're about to enter a Dark Age for LGBT rights in the U.S. Hope you enjoyed 2014, 2015, and 2016, because that poo poo's going bye-bye in 2017. If you're an LGBT person above a certain age, prepare for the rest of your life to loving suck. This is an extremely popular opinion.
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Has Trump said anything against the LGBT community? Not a bait question, I honestly don't know.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Has Trump said anything against the LGBT community? Not a bait question, I honestly don't know. He chose one of the most aggressively anti-LGBT politicians in America as his VP.
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Oh yeah. I keep forgetting about Pence. Like a fever dream. Well, it'll certainly keep anyone from trying to kill Trump.
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Aramek posted:Generic malt-o-meal versions of cereals are all better than the actual cereal they're generic versions of. Especially their honey bunches of oats with almonds. I loving love me some Apple Zings. Like holy gently caress, this giant bag of Apple Jacks knock-offs? YES, PLEASE.
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Blue Star posted:We're about to enter a Dark Age for LGBT rights in the U.S. Hope you enjoyed 2014, 2015, and 2016, because that poo poo's going bye-bye in 2017. If you're an LGBT person above a certain age, prepare for the rest of your life to loving suck. nothing's gonna happen lmao unpopular opinion: litten sucks, popplio is the greatest spit on my clit has a new favorite as of 04:03 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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Henchman of Santa posted:He chose one of the most aggressively anti-LGBT politicians in America as his VP. i kind of wonder who chose who here, seeing as republican party reps almost uniformly distanced themselves from trump, starting from before the nomination and reaching fever pitch on nov 7th - i doubt many sane republicans were willing to get on mister trump's wild ride before the 8th trump_romney.jpg
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dogs are loving fantastic, if you dislike dogs maybe you should just kill yourself painfully to cull your gene pool off the human race.
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