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Strategic Tea posted:This is the weirdest thing and it applies to almost all left leaning causes, from vidya game representation to gunpoint communism. There are so many ways to get a message across but they always pick the one which is the most confrontational and alienating to the people they have to convince. It's like they think if they rage angrily enough the universe will recognise they're right and adjust itself.
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WampaLord posted:
I loving loved Fury Road, but when Nux gets that  who killed the world putdown aimed at him it struck me as weird and hurt itself a bit. Nux wasn't even born before the apocalypse happened and is just as much a victim of Immortan Joe as anyone else. Shifting blame onto Nux was a really weird moment that seemed at odds with its message.
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Dec 8, 2016 11:51
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spit on my clit posted:nothing's gonna happen lmao It bears repeating: The second highest office in the USA is currently held by a man who thinks you can electrocute the gay out of someone. Strategic Tea posted:This is the weirdest thing and it applies to almost all left leaning causes, from vidya game representation to gunpoint communism. There are so many ways to get a message across but they always pick the one which is the most confrontational and alienating to the people they have to convince. It's like they think if they rage angrily enough the universe will recognise they're right and adjust itself. This, in itself, is weird. The right is allowed to be as angry as it likes, blaming every problem in the world on any given minority figure. However, when the left places the blame on the people who are actually responsible, they're dived on and told to coddle the open fascists. The right are never asked to "listen to the left's complaints too", but the left aren't allowed to propose any policy without patting the right on the head and making concessions.
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Dec 8, 2016 12:10
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:It bears repeating: The second highest office in the USA is currently held by a man who thinks you can electrocute the gay out of someone. I still think that nothing will happen to strip the rights the LGBT community has already received. I understand the fear of it, but don't think they're high enough on the "poo poo we need to deregulate to fix the country" list for Trump and Co.
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Dec 8, 2016 14:46
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:It bears repeating: The second highest office in the USA is currently held by a man who thinks you can electrocute the gay out of someone. Because it's supposed to be about making progress not winning the argument.
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Dec 8, 2016 14:57
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Countries where seasons don't start at the beginning of the month are dumb. Seasons are pretty much arbitrary anyway so you may as well make it convenient and start them at fixed three month intervals on the first of the month.
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Dec 8, 2016 15:39
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Tiggum posted:Countries where seasons don't start at the beginning of the month are dumb. Seasons are pretty much arbitrary anyway so you may as well make it convenient and start them at fixed three month intervals on the first of the month. They're based on the Earth's rotation, which seems anything but arbitrary.
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Dec 8, 2016 15:43
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The term 'African American' is largely moot in many or most common occurrences of it.
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Dec 8, 2016 15:47
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Tiggum posted:Countries where seasons don't start at the beginning of the month are dumb. Seasons are pretty much arbitrary anyway so you may as well make it convenient and start them at fixed three month intervals on the first of the month. loving lmao my dude. seasons are not even remotely arbitrary and happen because of the Earth's position relative to the sun, hth
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Dec 8, 2016 15:49
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Henchman of Santa posted:They're based on the Earth's rotation, which seems anything but arbitrary. bradzilla posted:Seasons are not even remotely arbitrary and happen because of the Earth's position relative to the sun, hth
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Dec 8, 2016 15:51
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Tiggum posted:Countries where seasons don't start at the beginning of the month are dumb. Seasons are pretty much arbitrary anyway so you may as well make it convenient and start them at fixed three month intervals on the first of the month. Really it would make more sense to shift the calendar so that January 1st occurs on the winter solstice, but the changing of seasons is so gradual and varies so much year-to-year that having specific start and end dates is kind of pointless anyway imo.
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Dec 8, 2016 15:51
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Dec 8, 2016 15:53
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the ultimate PYF experience is the guy from the PYF Pet Peeve thread whose pet peeve is fireworks, because they bore him since he already knows all the shapes and colours, looking up into the sky, presumably enjoying a beautiful midsummer's eve, only to remark that the sun's relative distance from the Earth is some random monkey cheese bullshit
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Dec 8, 2016 15:54
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Tilt, not position.
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Dec 8, 2016 15:55
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Solice Kirsk posted:I still think that nothing will happen to strip the rights the LGBT community has already received. I understand the fear of it, but don't think they're high enough on the "poo poo we need to deregulate to fix the country" list for Trump and Co. We'll find out when Trump starts naming justices. Personally, I don't know what Trump really thinks about the civil rights of queer folks, or if he has a considered opinion at all. I know that neither he nor any of his adult children are gay, which means he probably hasn't given it much thought. If young Barron happens to be gay, and if this shows up real soon, Trump may have a Rob Portman moment. But, given his age, he probably has a vaguely antipathetic feeling which will guide him. PHOP: You know what's overrated? Manhattan.
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Dec 8, 2016 15:55
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Tiggum posted:Changes in the weather happen because of the Earth's position. Seasons are just the names we give to arbitrary divisions of the year. We said the exact same thing about seasons but you still don't know what arbitrary means lol. Seasons are not a random occurrence.
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Dec 8, 2016 15:56
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I am struggling to see how having them start on the first of a month makes anything whatsoever "more convenient", aside from I guess remembering when it happens. But knowing the season for most people has no practical application, so who cares?
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Dec 8, 2016 15:58
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Seasons are about daylight. Right now, where I am, we have less, and I have to get up in the dark, envying Argentinians and New Zealanders.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I am struggling to see how having them start on the first of a month makes anything whatsoever "more convenient", aside from I guess remembering when it happens. But knowing the season for most people has no practical application, so who cares? Steam summer sales?
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Dec 8, 2016 16:00
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If you're going to argue against arbitrary calendar events why don't you bitch about daylight savings? So a farmer has to start work at 8am now instead of 9am? Don't change time for everyone, stupid!
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Dec 8, 2016 16:02
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gleebster posted:Personally, I don't know what Trump really thinks about the civil rights of queer folks, or if he has a considered opinion at all. In his 60 Minutes interview Trump was asked about gay marriage and he said that the Supreme Court has already decided about it, so it stays. But who knows. He constantly flip-flops.
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Dec 8, 2016 17:17
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bean_shadow posted:In his 60 Minutes interview Trump was asked about gay marriage and he said that the Supreme Court has already decided about it, so it stays. But who knows. He constantly flip-flops. The president also doesn't have the power to do anything about it.
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Dec 8, 2016 17:26
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bean_shadow posted:In his 60 Minutes interview Trump was asked about gay marriage and he said that the Supreme Court has already decided about it, so it stays. But who knows. He constantly flip-flops. Including the same interview, where he said he would repeal Roe v Wade.
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Dec 8, 2016 17:27
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:It bears repeating: The second highest office in the USA is currently held by a man who thinks you can electrocute the gay out of someone. and it bears repeating that nothing's gonna happen to gay rights
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Dec 8, 2016 18:05
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The average Brit is no smarter, or dumber, than the average American.
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Dec 8, 2016 18:56
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Tiggum posted:They're divisions of the year, but so are months, and there's no reason we couldn't have more or fewer of either. Seasons aren't arbitrary at all. They're based on the amount of sunlight. On the equinoxes, you get 12 hours of sunlight and 12 hours of night. The summer solstice is the longest day, and the winter solstice is the longest night. This is true no matter where you are on the planet. And the weather changes mostly due to those seasonal differences (axial tilt), not Earth's position. The eccentricity of Earth's orbit isn't that significant. What are they teaching kids in school these days?
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Dec 8, 2016 19:09
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Its an indictment of humanity and the American education system that propeganda and advertising works the way it does. Fake news shouldnt be a think in 2016, but because most conservatives are illiterate and morons false information has and will continue to influence the direction of the most powerful country in the world. All because a significant minority of people are too stupid to check their facts or make a rational critical decision.
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Dec 8, 2016 19:14
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Jastiger posted:Its an indictment of humanity and the American education system that propeganda and advertising works the way it does. Fake news shouldnt be a think in 2016, but because most conservatives are illiterate and morons false information has and will continue to influence the direction of the most powerful country in the world. Why limit yourself to America? People all over buy into propaganda and advertising.
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Dec 8, 2016 19:16
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WampaLord posted:Why limit yourself to America? People all over buy into propaganda and advertising. Becuase I live here and also we're supposed to have the most advanced education and social systems in the world. just lol.
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Jastiger posted:Becuase I live here and also we're supposed to have the most advanced education and social systems in the world. just lol. Sure we have the best college and university system in the world, but our pre-college system is loving terrible. And what kind of social systems do you think we have that would make people not buy into advertising?
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Jastiger posted:we're supposed to have the most advanced education and social systems in the world. What? According to who?
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Jastiger posted:Becuase I live here and also we're supposed to have the most advanced education and social systems in the world. just lol.
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Jastiger posted:Becuase I live here and also we're supposed to have the most advanced education and social systems in the world. just lol. i think you're thinking of sweden
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Jastiger posted:Its an indictment of humanity and the American education system that propeganda and advertising works the way it does. Fake news shouldnt be a think in 2016, but because most conservatives are illiterate and morons false information has and will continue to influence the direction of the most powerful country in the world. "Fake news" isn't a recent thing. It has been around since news has been around. There is no truly objective news source anyway so this isn't the "gently caress the south" issue you wish it was.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:"Fake news" isn't a recent thing. It has been around since news has been around. There is no truly objective news source anyway so this isn't the "gently caress the south" issue you wish it was. Nah it actually is. Fake news has always been a thin, and what also has always been a thing has been the ability to A) Create a cohesive argument that makes loving sense. Ex: LOL OBAMA USES A TELEPROMPTER WHAT AN IDIOT (everyone uses one) or KEEP YOUR GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY MEDICARE. By every measure this is retarded, regardless of political position. B) The ability to discuss ideas in an educated or at least somewhat cohesive manner. Ex: I'm voting for X because he will help Y because X said and campaigned on doing Y What has not always been the case has been the ability to immediately and easily and cheaply verify information. Ex: Obama spent 9 billion dollars on a personal armada to India in 2013. Ex: Clinton has had people killed personally and verifiably. poo poo like that. Its one thing to not trust someone, its another to be a supposed intelligent member of a democratic society and be unable to comprehend and process basic information. A lot of Americans and people can, but unfortunately, a large minority can't. And that is hosed up.
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Dec 8, 2016 19:34
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Jastiger posted:Nah it actually is. Fake news has always been a thin, and what also has always been a thing has been the ability to dewey defeats truman
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Dec 8, 2016 19:37
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Pick posted:The average Brit is no smarter, or dumber, than the average American. I remember a "study" they did (probably just a poll or something) that tried to chart positive opinion of British intelligence/character with how much personal contact Americans had. Turns out those with the least contact had the highest opinions, and the more familiarity rose, the opinion of England absolutely plummeted.
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Dec 8, 2016 19:46
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Jastiger posted:Nah it actually is. Fake news has always been a thin, and what also has always been a thing has been the ability to The people who were prone to believing fake news about Hillary were going to vote Republican either way, just like the people who can't see through the heavily biased pieces on the other side of the spectrum. It's such a silly thing to focus on. If "fake news" had an effect on the election outcome it wasn't statistically relevant.
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Dec 8, 2016 19:49
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yeah I eat rear end posted:The people who were prone to believing fake news about Hillary were going to vote Republican either way, just like the people who can't see through the heavily biased pieces on the other side of the spectrum. It's such a silly thing to focus on. If "fake news" had an effect on the election outcome it wasn't statistically relevant. Lol if you don't think a substantial number of people voted for Trump/Didnt' vote at all because of the fake news about her indictment, murdering people, and liesa bout OBama for the past 8 years.
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Jastiger posted:Lol if you don't think a substantial number of people voted for Trump/Didnt' vote at all because of the fake news about her indictment, murdering people, and liesa bout OBama for the past 8 years. what isn't fake news, Jastiger? edit: specifically from the right. tell me some real news from republicans.
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