1500 posted:

But that was not the early promise. The early promise was to develop everything in tandem and release it all at once. This was the excuse of why it would take longer to release something, but that something would have way more in it. This adding systems and such come after it became clear CIG was not making progress and could only work on a single thing at a time.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyWqCew1g-A

lovely crowdfunded closed development obvious hacks Warhorse Studios continue to show "progress" on their "game" that is currently in an "alpha state" where all of the intended games features are "implemented". Notable pieces of information include a dramatic three and a half hours of motion capture for a single player narrative game (it took them a whole month), numerous examples of where ambitious features had to be cut for the interest of gameplay, and artists being tasked with the alien concept of "optimization".

Clearly a scam.

Eldragon posted:

I'm referring to their alpha vertical slices, not the final "release" of the game. But my overall point is that Elite planned on generating thousands of star systems and adding gameplay and content later. CIG's plan was to start from a smaller set of systems then expand outward.

Which results in elite being massive game where you play for hours and never encounter another player, which IMHO is dumb; but some people like it that way.

The Titanic posted:

My bet would be that Chris Roberts knowingly rips this stuff off, but has a hard time admitting that he's creatively bankrupt. It's like if he only uses the Dune sandworm "a little bit" it's still mostly his creation on spectacle. Unfortunately for the whole Douglas Adams thing, it's pretty horrifically blatant. From the towel to everything else.

His whole game, from title to the details, is a rip off from better, original concepts from people far better at it than him.

POOL IS CLOSED posted:

how many of those guys unironically describe themselves as incels

thinking about the community just gets me down, time to enjoy some bubbly

Eldragon posted:

I'm referring to their alpha vertical slices, not the final "release" of the game. But my overall point is that Elite planned on generating thousands of star systems and adding gameplay and content later. CIG's plan was to start from a smaller set of systems then expand outward.

Which results in elite being massive game where you play for hours and never encounter another player, which IMHO is dumb; but some people like it that way.

Oleyo posted:

I am annoyed that you made me google incel, and that I now know it is a used term.

Breetai posted:

Oh hai!

And just in case you needed any more indication of the kind of person we're dealing with here, I dare anyone to get through 2 minutes of one of the videos on the channel he suggested without wanting to punch a hole through their computer. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJn0R50IdA

loving look at that smug oval office. He's like the personification of Reddit and of COURSE he wears a loving top hat in his videos because of his cargo cult notion of what a proper gentleman from le classy past looks like.

The Titanic posted:

This seems to be the prevailing winner (where winning is bad) in most cases. Losing friends is an endless war of attrition between trying to be happy and trying to blend in with general society. Some day I will figure out the best mix and be totally cool and popular.

MeLKoR posted:

https://i.imgur.com/pu3Rwe4.mp4

1500 posted:

Ya that was not the plan. The plan was to put everything into the game all at once. It was supposed to release with its full number of star systems and all mechanics, and by release I mean when the PU was actually supposed to launch. There was never a plan for a alpha vertical slice. The idea of a vertical slice is a new thing that CIG have to do now because they have made it very clear that they only work on a single aspect of the game.

This was the first major contention between the two games. CIG would make everything at the same time and dump it all in one lump, while FD would start with the foundation and build from that.

I should point out that you can play ED and always play with other players. Given the player the option of spreading out or fighting together is a good thing. Nothing is stopping you from hopping from community goal to community goal and always playing with lots of other players. FD major problems are that they don't know what type of game they want to make. Is it focused on player interaction or NPC interaction. There is no right answer, but half assing both is a poo poo thing to do.

POOL IS CLOSED posted:

when i first heard it i thought it was a joke. sadly, it is not

Tippis posted:

Of course it's not a joke. It even has the bonus of some minor connotation to being an in-group, meaning that even though it represents an inherent out-group, it's something to belong to and be smug about.

1500 posted:

Ya that was not the plan. The plan was to put everything into the game all at once. It was supposed to release with its full number of star systems and all mechanics, and by release I mean when the PU was actually supposed to launch. There was never a plan for a alpha vertical slice. The idea of a vertical slice is a new thing that CIG have to do now because they have made it very clear that they only work on a single aspect of the game.

This was the first major contention between the two games. CIG would make everything at the same time and dump it all in one lump, while FD would start with the foundation and build from that.

MeLKoR posted:

o4

Oleyo posted:

After you are mesmerized by a giant dough mixer and stick your arm in it while it is operational*, this is how you salute.

Oleyo posted:

After you are mesmerized by a giant dough mixer and stick your arm in it while it is operational*, this is how you salute.





















*Actually happened to someone where I went to high school.

e: He really claimed that he was 'mesmerized' by it. I can only assume drugs were involved. Drugs seem not to mix with heavy machinery.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

E:D is what Star Citizn't

Mirificus posted:

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

pinepple on pizza: actually good

Raskolnikov posted:

Pineapple on pepperoni is the real winner. It's like #winning by slumming.

Seriously, it's good. Call me.
poo poo is tough okay?

Oleyo posted:

Ok, Ok, I will stop. We don't really need to do this again....

alf_pogs posted:

where's bronson when you need him

Mirificus posted:

Oleyo posted:

sooooo.... Mentioning 'the final solution' as bad, bad, bad! is... SJW?

Mirificus posted:

quote:

You're showing immaturity and disrespect, like pouty, whiney, entitled babies.

Sunswipe posted:

The mods on there are some of the most tolerant I've ever seen. I can't think of any other forum where blatantly and repeatedly insulting the mods because you disagree with the rules would be accepted. If nothing else, you'd think by now they'd have said "If you don't like how we run the place, don't come here." It's almost as if they need to keep the number of people posting as high as possible...

Morningwoodpecker posted:

Maybe they don't think poking a bunch of obsessive stalkers with a stick is a fun thing to do. I think it's great fun, but each to their own.

POOL IS CLOSED posted:

I'm afraid to gently caress with my stand mixer's dough hook when it's in action. You've got to have some sort of cognitive defect going on to think it's a good idea to jam your arm into an industrial version.

Tippis posted:

What else is there to do? It's not like CIG is doing anything useful that we can mock them for. We probably have to wait for the next livestream for that.