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Truth Quark posted:The answer is that neither of us really cared. I still don't. You're a town who doesn't care if they get mislynched or not. That's real strong town play.
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tpink posted:You're a town who doesn't care if they get mislynched or not. That's real strong town play. caring is for scums
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Dec 8, 2016 21:49
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I was on GHGD earlier, I'm just running with that. It's entirely possible I missed something about evolutions or whatever in the several hundred posts I have to skim through every morning, but GHGD looked worse to me for the "I have information vital to this that I'll save for later" poo poo
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Dec 8, 2016 22:02
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I don't have to be alive to win as town
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Retro Futurist posted:I was on GHGD earlier, I'm just running with that. It's entirely possible I missed something about evolutions or whatever in the several hundred posts I have to skim through every morning, but GHGD looked worse to me for the "I have information vital to this that I'll save for later" poo poo "I am scum and want to lynch an evolved player before he can use whatever he got"
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Dec 8, 2016 22:03
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I'd also go for Met, he hasn't done anything to make me feel better about him. Not really feeling Tobbs as scum, that seems a bit trumped up
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Dec 8, 2016 22:03
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 ##vote Quark Ok, I guess that makes more sense
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Not to mention, tpink, that my lynch will lead to people scrutinizing scumbos like you who don't want to have to deal with killing us at night and making the other a confirmed town player for at least one day phase.
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Dec 8, 2016 22:05
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Truth Quark posted:I don't have to be alive to win as town You going "just lynch me fine whatever" is not helping town win if you are, in fact, town.
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Dec 8, 2016 22:05
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tpink posted:You going "just lynch me fine whatever" is not helping town win if you are, in fact, town. Ok scumbo
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Yep, opop's being scummy. "What's that, there's momentum on lynching someone in the claimed confirmed town masonry? Let's get this rolling!" ##vote opop Friendship breadcrumb, claims, the riskiness of scum pulling the gambit, and ghgd's type being consistent with awarded points all contribute to him having a very high likelihood of telling the truth. I think we can actually lynch scum today.
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Dec 8, 2016 22:07
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:"What's that, there's momentum on lynching someone in the claimed confirmed town masonry? Let's get this rolling!" Yeah that's basically my thought process. I've been on them since all this started though, it's not like I'm going after them specifically for being masons
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Dec 8, 2016 22:45
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Dont do the scums work by lynching the masonry idiots
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I prefer RF to Met ##vote RF
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Dec 8, 2016 23:48
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Ok cool I guess I'm going to be the 11th hour switch to town for today. Enjoying watching votes quickly pile up on me that nobody reviews tomorrow
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Dec 9, 2016 00:20
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Orrrr you might try playing the game and putting some thoughts down?
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Dec 9, 2016 00:38
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When didn't I? I've been pushing this mason claim for 2 days and I've spoken about a few other people in the course of the game. I know it's easy to target me for lurking or being low effort or whatever in general but I've actually done stuff this time
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help me dunk Fake Bird instead for a "case" based entirely on a theory that there are too many bug types i am the bird posted:two items related to buggery: the other lazy bullshit part is that the "double post" with Tobbs is the only thing quoted. If someone wanted to make a genuine case against me there's other stuff they could use but this is just a super low effort attempt
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I feel that scum have been looking for low effort ways to pick people off but have been thwarted a few times. Truth Quark on D1 would have been easy for them but they backed off after the mason claim. They moved to Taste who was easy to sell as a lurker lynch. Today they've had a go at Met for fishing, then DB messed up his claim but didn't generate a lot of momentum, so now they're wandering around a bit looking for someone else and hoping people go back to Met. They've been happy to float me and tobbs out there a little bit but their hearts just aren't in it. I don't know why RF keeps coming back to TQuark and ignoring just about everything else
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Retro Futurist posted:When didn't I? I've been pushing this mason claim for 2 days and I've spoken about a few other people in the course of the game. I know it's easy to target me for lurking or being low effort or whatever in general but I've actually done stuff this time I don't buy every aspect of your case on the masons but the fact is that if they're scum and we all buy their mason claim without questioning it and/or testing it, we're in trouble. I don't think that in and of itself it's scummy on your behalf to continue to highlight that point. Also, did I miss clarification on when the deadline is or do we still not know?
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SLASHER HAWKE posted:I prefer RF to Met Someone messed with your vote or something. Maybe votefinder is being weird, but yeah... your still voting bird apparently.
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IllegallySober posted:I don't buy every aspect of your case on the masons but the fact is that if they're scum and we all buy their mason claim without questioning it and/or testing it, we're in trouble. I don't think that in and of itself it's scummy on your behalf to continue to highlight that point. Did something go wrong here or is my brain going? I can't parse this
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Retro Futurist posted:Did something go wrong here or is my brain going? I can't parse this I was trying to multi-task, sorry. I'll try again. Mafia edit below: IllegallySober posted:I don't buy every aspect of your case, but the fact is that if the mason pair is scum and we all buy their claim without questioning it and/or testing it, we're in trouble. I don't think that it's scummy on your behalf to continue to highlight that and based on that point, I don't like the votes on you.
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Alternatively, my brain and/or your brain really could be going. It's been a long day. 
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Dick Bastardly posted:Someone messed with your vote or something. Maybe votefinder is being weird, but yeah... your still voting bird apparently. ##unvote for now to be safe
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if you think the claimed masons are scum vote them "testing the claim" is not a good reason to vote them today
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SLASHER HAWKE posted:help me dunk Fake Bird instead for a "case" based entirely on a theory that there are too many bug types nowhere did I suggest my case was flawless but I've mentioned before that you have a pattern of suspicious behavior (as you yourself apparently are admitting here) also, you're case on me literally boils down to "no you" so I don't know what to tell you Dunno if I'm down with voting Met anymore and I'm annoyed that our other options are basically lurker lynches Reading through again. Votefinder is wonky for me so I'm trying to look at yesterday's lynch for stuff
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SLASHER HAWKE posted:if you think the claimed masons are scum vote them I'll agree with this that I see no reasonable argument against the claimed masons at the moment
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also oh no I used the wrong your, please lynch me now for idiocy
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SLASHER HAWKE posted:##unvote for now to be safe votefinder is being fucky, still says you vote bird.
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Dick Bastardly posted:votefinder is being fucky, still says you vote bird. it also says no deadline
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Made a post for if I got a couple more votes, but meh. I'll just link back to it when a low-content poster tried to hop on the easy vote. It's a little out of the blue but I didn't want to have to describe why someone was an idiot with very little time to do so. - Please re-read. Met posted:If I can figure out what type/pokemon you are by your hints and/or slips, the scum can too and it only takes one of them figuring it out to let the others know in the scumdoc. There's no reason for me not to reveal people when I figure it out because I don't know someone else isn't doing the same. We should operate with as much information as possible because the scum surely are and it's the only thing that gives them the advantage. ^ If the information is out there already, it should be made public knowledge because the scum likely know it already and will be using it against you. Information and a nightkill is the advantage they have over town. Met posted:and if people had some standards on when it's okay to nominate, the people who insta-chose someone on shaky ground would have been suspect. But critical thinking isn't valued here. In fact, it's discouraged by some people in particular. Met posted:That's EXACTLY why there needs to be discussion and instant-nominations should be discouraged as scummy. If the Mafia just plan to be online when the challenge is likely to occur, like it was planned for D1, they could easily pick and choose who they want for their purposes. What do you think is happening when nominate quickly without discussion, say there's no point in working together, and make people like you think it's okay? You are being manipulated against your own interests as town. ^ Think things through. Don't let other people make decisions for you and make you think it's okay because it's not a typical mafia mechanic. These aren't the posts of scum. Scum don't tell you to work cohesively and think about decisions together rather than rushing into them. Also, just reminding everyone I was jailed last night. So I'm not the mafia kill performer at the very least. It's a small thing but maybe someone has other information they can use in conjunction with that that helps confirm me. I wouldn't blab and reveal yourself though unless it's something that leads to a scum.
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This post was tacked onto the last post but I don't want it drawing attention away from the message in it. People who I think post low-content posts or make really suspicious decisions:
I really think we should stop indulging Kashuno for Gyms. In fact, I think spreading out evolutions would be beneficial for town overall since we've had a flip and claim of Vanilla with abilities that only come after evolution. Now that we only evolve with 1 xp we can spread some abilities around more quickly. I don't think many of the scum are going to evolve, but even if they do, the benefit of getting more townies some abilities is worth it. I recommend Bird and myself for getting some xp since we already claimed we evolve. I think Dick might evolve too but he didn't outright say it. A lot of people haven't said if they evolve or not but you might want to bring it up by the next gym. We need less of this "Hey, just pick me!" and more "Pick me, I evolve and will be able to do more at night because of it." Remember that evolutions are announced. I really think nominations should happen by people announcing their point value and whether they're going to evolve. We'll take type into consideration but the goal should be to get enough points to complete the gym and get as much XP around to people who evolve.
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I think Met is town. I have him in blue on my spreadsheet right now. DB, GHGD, Inf, and TQuark are also in blue. This can change. Tobbs was in blue but I removed that after the present begging. Kash is in yellow.
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Truth Quark posted:What are your reasons for thinking Met is town? I think his discussion about the info and nominations was genuine.
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Two things really quickly:Met posted:[*]IllegallySober: Lowest postcount in the thread. He just comes off as someone whose afraid to stick his neck out there. He also defended me at one point and I just find that pretty suspect because I don't feel like he's in this enough to come to that conclusion. Everyone else seems to have an easy enough time calling me scum. I've covered the post count thing already and I'm working on being more present here. But even if I haven't posted as much as others I don't know why in your mind it would be a mark against me for defending you. I've read everything, even if it was a little late. This, though: quote:Now that we only evolve with 1 xp we can spread some abilities around more quickly. This was not how I read the result of the challenge. I thought the challengers in that particular gym took one less XP to evolve, not that ALL of us now took one less XP to evolve.
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I don't disagree with the rest of your post/posts, just clarifying that.
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I like how you accuse me of chasing an "easy" case and then basically try to push a lurker lynch on me. 
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