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KozmoNaut posted:Wow, that is some deep Time Cube-type alchemical voodoo poo poo. “so silly good that they’ll make your girlfriends’ nipples hard in about a millisecond.” Jeff Day, Jeff’s Place, Positive Feedback.
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I'll take "things I never thought I would hear said about capacitors" for 1000, Alex.
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Oh, the Duelund cables made their way to Norway as well causing meltdowns on HiFi forums.
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We have the Tandberg people, and they are a crazy bunch.
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We don't have quite the same level of B&O crazies here. Audiophiles mostly poo-poo their products because of the fancy designs and whatnot.
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evobatman posted:We have the Tandberg people, and they are a crazy bunch. We bought a division of tandberg many years back and can confirm that real tandberg people are crazy.
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All I know about Tandberg is Cisco bought their video conferencing technology, and then immediately made it suck and removed all user friendliness.
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Gunjin posted:Cisco made it suck and removed all user friendliness.
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It's time to play AES Bullshit Bingo! http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=18523 I didn't even make it halfway through the first page.
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Not an audio person but having 20 undergrads take an AB test is pretty shaky as a statistical marker.
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KozmoNaut posted:It's time to play AES Bullshit Bingo! Halfway through the first page? I didn't get past the title without suddenly wanting to punch someone.
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quote:Even if you don’t pony up the cash for the 24-bit lossless version and content yourself with a drat-near Paleolithic 320 kbps http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9990-the-20-best-electronic-albums-of-2016/  And of course in the /r/audiophile thread where I got the link, one guy was all like "of course I notice lossless vs. 320kbps immediately" 
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Continuing to troll this guy: Go ab your cheap crap interconnect(that you got off ebay or amazon for 10 dollars(which is still a ripoff)) and then make an occ silver interconnect(where all the parts and steps are thought out but this is beyond you). Your right I do listen to equipment and listening on a Chord Mojo + iFi iCanSE, Hugo, 2Qute, or an iDSD or iDSD Black Label is going to be a million times better than almost anything else youve been listening to unless you have a high end well implemented sabre like a matrix etc(Chord will beat Sabre). So when you get it its like listening to equipment cause everything sounds better but eventually you get used to it or even listening to music for a few minutes your mind doesnt stay locked on thinking about the equipment eventually your mind drifts into music and when its higher quality it just sounds better and you get lost in it easier. Go test it out what you cant afford a self made interconnect for 1.50 per foot? that silver wire also looks good that silver plate is shiny braid it up(I even recabled a soundsticks just because it matched so much better than the stock wires that shiny silver braid(its not about the looks but it is a nice secondary aspect) and all clear plastic(youll have to learn how to do this youll get better after you make a few you might have to unbraid your first one and rebraid it a few times before you get it down) and it will amaze you how good it sounds and that you made it yourself(have to get into heatshrink and soldering as well make sure you get a solder tip cleaner machine(hakko) and the tip cleaner paste makes soldering with high end solder easier so that way you can clean the tip and not taint your nice 5% silver solder). Ive resoldered and recabled some iems and the difference was extremely drastic not only were they louder but way more clear thoughout the whole frequency range and these were 400 dollar well reguarded iems(one of the best of the first round of audiophile level universals that came out like 8 years ago). There is a reason 6moons like to recable all their headphones with braided silver plated occ or pure silver it just works. Dont listen to these Digital Infallibility Cheapasses they have no idea what they are talking about. They think they have some inside track or realization on what is a man(trust me they aren't men they are just cynical brainwashes trapped in the rat race and they like to zap other mice in the rat maze that are jumping over the walls and making them look like fools "settle down fastaz let me put the brakes on you" but what I do is ____ the _____________) and Audiophile is just not it to them. AUDIOPHILE IS GOD ALL ELSE IS IRRELEVANT. Its too bad they have no attention to detail and or test things and AB them or do any critical listening.
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I am the audio fool I was wondering why my audio response sounded lumpy and poo poo. I reversed the polarity on my left speaker.
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Dec 12, 2016 18:27
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Oh yeah, that'll definitely gently caress stuff up, big time.
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Here, read this and laugh
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I'm going to start re-bottling Thunderbird and selling it as audiophile wine. It will clearly improve your emotional connection with music.
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I linked the AES paper earlier. It's the most amazing bullshit
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Audiophile bullshit aside, my favorite part was this:quote:They also suggest that the current trend in popular music toward growl-like tones or angry lyrics might have arisen due to their ability to translate well into the compressed file format. Those kids and their growling angry music  It's clear they didnt care about conducting a proper study at all and instead just wanted to give themselves another reason to jerk off to classical music. The fact that they didn't even test the effect of compression on voices proves this even more.
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grack posted:I'm going to start re-bottling Thunderbird and selling it as audiophile wine. It will clearly improve your emotional connection with music. Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see.
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A quote from that 'study'quote:The artifacts of MP3 compression are audible when high compression rates (i.e., low bit rates) are used Music sounds different when you make it sound different? 
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Dec 13, 2016 09:47
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Sure, pop (edm, rock etc) music are slammed with compression, but actual low bitrate versions of pop music sound more like garbage than classical. Anything with a lot of high end (like, say, the 808 hihats which dominate current music) will sound very bad if it's at too low a rate. You don't need to be a classical-obsessed wanker to appreciate reasonable fidelity.
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And that's why very few people use low bitrates like 112kbps CBR for their music, unless they have very specific reasons for trying to save as much space as possible.
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KozmoNaut posted:And that's why very few people use low bitrates like 112kbps CBR for their music, unless they have very specific reasons for trying to save as much space as possible. My work phone system has so little memory you have to really be careful to fit the whole robo choices into the file before the system says screw you. It certainly is impossible to break though drat thing has been running for decades. Good old Nortel.
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There's certain synth noises I can peg compression on instantly, off the top of my head the lead synth from "Cowgirl" by Underworld still sounds noticeably different even at pretty reasonable bitrates. Not worse, just different.
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96,000 MEGAHERTZ sound, baby! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQUoGFTxwE And  at the "proprietary subwoofer cable"  With the wide availability of affordable active monitors, why would anyone ever buy a set of inevitably lovely computer speakers?
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qirex posted:There's certain synth noises I can peg compression on instantly, off the top of my head the lead synth from "Cowgirl" by Underworld still sounds noticeably different even at pretty reasonable bitrates. Not worse, just different. It's got a lot of pretty high frequencies, which are usually the first to get smashed by compression. The example of the hihats I mentioned above basically applies again here, but that's a really neat example. I remember compressing all my MP3s to lossy WMA to save space in the early 2000s, and all my bad pop punk suddenly sounded terrible - another genre with loads of hihats! They became this weird flat, dull beep. Super hard to listen to, and even I, a dumb kid with bad logitech speakers could tell it was way worse sounding.
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KozmoNaut posted:96,000 MEGAHERTZ sound, baby! RGB
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KozmoNaut posted:With the wide availability of affordable active monitors, why would anyone ever buy a set of inevitably lovely computer speakers? Duh, magnetic shielding of course Also 75 watts of face melting, chest smashing amplification for all drivers including the sub. 
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Olympic Mathlete posted:
pmpo 100% THD
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Flipperwaldt posted:!!!6500W!!! My sister had this cheap-rear end 5.1 computer speaker system for a while that advertised 1200W PMPO and was powered by a simple 12V wall-wart. That poor 12V DC wire (probably 24AWG) would have had to carry 100A  I would love to have seen that happen.In addition the blatant disregard for either truthfulness and/or fire safety, the sound quality was truly abysmal. For instance, you could even hear the kick drum intro to Iron Man. Seriously, that frequency range simply wasn't there. She's using my old set of Audioengine A5+s now, and loving them. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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well why not posted:It's got a lot of pretty high frequencies, which are usually the first to get smashed by compression. The example of the hihats I mentioned above basically applies again here, but that's a really neat example. Cowgirl is one of my favorite tracks to use for testing / equalization purposes do to overall range and ease to listen for distortions. ATB's - Emotion and Too Much Rain also do well. HFX fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Let's be audiophiles instead of ridiculing them for a minute; share some of your speaker shopping/calibration tracks. [warning: much '90s music ahead]
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The Box is such an awesome track, it's been too long since I've listened to the full one. And yeah, can't go wrong with some Dillinja. This was always our system test to ensure the speakers could deal with some nasty bass. Off the vinyl copy, not YouTube mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnJ13BSMeL4
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One thing I've learned from going from bookshelf speakers to studio monitors, is that you want some track that had lovely, made-for-portable-radio production in the sixties. If it sounds anything but horriblly disappointing on the speakers, the speakers are bad.
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This little thing (off of something better than Youtube, obviously). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QMiCBJ7yRM Awesome bass track. Most tracks by Röyksopp or Trentemøller also qualify. For overall clarity, I have a FLAC rip of this song, which is just amazingly well produced. It has to be this exact version, off of some B&W audiophile test CD or something. The regular version isn't nearly as good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFo2wvQEm_s Aside from the obvious gratuitous high-pitched bell and such for the treble, and the detailed guitar sound, his voice really tears apart speakers that are boomy in the mid-bass. And of course you should always put on the music you're actually going to be listening to  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T04QFKnBIiM KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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KozmoNaut posted:This little thing (off of something better than Youtube, obviously).
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In fairness, a lot of it was done on trackers and Atari STs in people's bedrooms. Jungle rules, and I found a rad Top of the Pops performance on YouTube of M-Beat doing Incredible, and Levy doesn't let up for a beat. Awesome stuff.
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Yeah, it's like 80s rap from the SP-12 era, it being noisy and unbalanced doesn't diminish my enjoyment except for certain songs, this one in particular because they totally squashed it. I have this on vinyl and CD and it sounds bad on all of them, especially compared to what "Raincry" [the song they sampled] sounds like.
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Haha yeah, I think the crushing of the samples just adds to the charm of it all. Hardware limitations forcing a style is part and parcel of this kinda stuff, good tune. Nothing funnier than having a dubbed c90 full of banging tracks, hunting down the original and finding there's next to no quality difference. You're probably one of about 3 people interested in a single php site thing I built a few years. All it does is randomizes slice orders of the Amen break and plays it in the browser. Kinda useless, but every so often it comes up with a gem. http://crucialweb.net/amen
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