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Fooma posted:What prevents them from just releasing 2.6 to live as is? It's pre-pre alpha anyway. SM is it's own module ready for pre alpha alpha testing which is all those testers are there to do anyway. PU not really as affected worse than it already is. It's not like it's being released to a live game with a hostile audience. It's a good question, realistically what could they do or fix in the next few days? I dunno, you raise a good point
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ManofManyAliases posted:I would feel too much grief. A good belt should be treated nicely. I have faith that my belt will be with me a long time my friend
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From way back butMeLKoR posted:Cry ELE and let slip the Cry ELE and let slip the dogs of law 
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ManofManyAliases posted:George Michael is not wrong. I would have pegged you as partial to the Limp Bizkit version.
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peter gabriel posted:It's a good question, realistically what could they do or fix in the next few days? I dunno, you raise a good point they could hit the content switch i suppose but that would just feed the locusts
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Wise Learned Man posted:I would have pegged you as partial to the Limp Bizkit version. Ahhh - more things you know about me now.
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Sickening posted:The fact that Derek decided to make his own forum because he can't handle the moderation here will never stop being funny. The jokes on you. I always had a forum there; except that it was a Wordpress plugin. I just installed a standalone one instead.
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Fooma posted:What prevents them from just releasing 2.6 to live as is? It's pre-pre alpha anyway. SM is it's own module ready for pre alpha alpha testing which is all those testers are there to do anyway. PU not really as affected worse than it already is. It's not like it's being released to a live game with a hostile audience. By creating the secret "Avocadi" (or whatever they are called) testers CIG simultaneously: 1- creates the illusion of progress while hiding all the problems under an NDA. 2- Shame all the backers who are not in the secret group, encouraging many to kiss rear end even harder in the hopes that they can get in some day. 3- Create divides among the community between those who are "in the know" and those that are not, e.g. arguments over leaks. An actual open development game would just create vertical slices of product that focus on stability over features and roll them out as they are ready. None of this big release that needs 4+ months of testing bullshit.
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Releasing it to the PU will imply it's not horribly broken so every citizen and their mom will download it and make poor Chris pay for the gigantic bandwidth bill Not to mention whatever it costs to host all the PU and Star Marine instances lol
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Fooma posted:What prevents them from just releasing 2.6 to live as is? It's pre-pre alpha anyway. SM is it's own module ready for pre alpha alpha testing which is all those testers are there to do anyway. PU not really as affected worse than it already is. It's not like it's being released to a live game with a hostile audience. Money is one reason. Their bandwidth costs due to the patcher ain't cheap. efb
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D_Smart posted:The jokes on you. as always
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Eldragon posted:By creating the secret "Avocadi" (or whatever they are called) testers CIG simultaneously: wow sounds like we got ourselves a game development expert over here
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MoMA let's play Star Marine this weekend
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D_Smart posted:The jokes on you. I always had a forum there; except that it was a Wordpress plugin. I just installed a standalone one instead. A real knee-slapper. Thanks Uncle D
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shrach posted:I'm not sure where you are getting those 75% figures from. You should check the links. Foundry 42 Ltd and Roberts Space Industries UK Ltd are both owned 100% by Cloud Imperium Games UK Ltd. RSI UK Ltd only has one share in issue for example. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08882924/persons-with-significant-control https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08703814/persons-with-significant-control quote:I should have been clearer. It's needless to move the money around like this from a neutral or professional point of view. I'm sure there are reasons they WANT to do it this way but it's needless and it's going to end up looking dodgy...especially if there is any "friction" in the money movement. I also think this needless separation of companies is one of the reasons that Foundry 42 Ltd should not be legally entitled to the UK video games tax credit but that's for another day. It's not supposed to make sense. Just go with it. quote:Here is something I am trying to get my head around, because it's going to be the correct way to show it: When the group accounts are filed I'm expecting to see the bottom line figure of ~£15m received for pledges effectively counted twice. They can't do that, without it reflecting on the books of both IN/OUT entities. Then it becomes a problem. And seeing as they have chartered accountants - third parties - it's highly unlikely that they are inclined to file it improperly. quote:With £30m income (£15m in RSI from customers + £15m in CIG UK received from the USA group) and £30m expenses (£15m in RSI to USA group + £15m in F42 for running costs). The £15m income in F42 is netted off with the corresponding expense in CIG UK to prevent them being counted twice as inter-group transactions and this is correct. You can't net off the transactions between the two UK companies and any US companies though because they are not part of the same group. While it doesn't necessarily make a profit difference yet, it does effectively double most of the numbers. It's somehow apt to this project I think. Bookkeeping schmeg. Yes. That's why they are not likely to show it twice. So it's going to be interesting to see how they show it.
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Alright. It's cool that av purchases can't be traced thanks to these hack forums code, which allowed whoever found that personal site of mine (which has no links to my username or any of my handles btw, so the only way to find it is to know my real name) to buy IRL pictures of me as an avatar. You loving weirdos win.
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Fooma posted:What prevents them from just releasing 2.6 to live as is? It's pre-pre alpha anyway. SM is it's own module ready for pre alpha alpha testing which is all those testers are there to do anyway. PU not really as affected worse than it already is. It's not like it's being released to a live game with a hostile audience. SCs network and server foundation is incredibly bad. It scales horribly, so they need to keep doing progressively larger scale tests to see the breaking point of what they are doing. In contrast FFXIV pushes way more content in shorter amount of time than CIG does, and they dont need to do several layers of tests to push it out. Because their foundations scale really well, they just dont bother with making load tests.
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ArfJason posted:Alright. loving owned. fake e: seriously, your last post wasn't too bad, you at least acknowledged star citizen doesn't exist, so that's a start.
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Eldragon posted:By creating the secret "Avocadi" (or whatever they are called) testers CIG simultaneously: Yeah. And furthermore.
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ArfJason posted:Alright. lol
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peter gabriel posted:2.6 won't come out this year and if it does I will eat my own arse 
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D_Smart posted:Yeah. And furthermore. Still waiting on that ELE.
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peter gabriel posted:A follow up question, how do you play Deus Ex? Thank gently caress for that, I thought it was just me who had this issue. I have the 'Smart vision' augmentation but there's no sign of him in the game, there's not even any shouting. 
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peter gabriel posted:Worse I think... I have lots of problems too, PoE is about 300 hours short of the true time (wasn't on steam in beta).  I don't even want to know how many hours of WoW I played back in the day... I think I was up to a year online around 2012 - played every xpac for like 2 weeks since.
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peter gabriel posted:Worse I think... wait, i also have 39 hours in that game. no way it took me that long to beat
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Ash1138 posted:how is that even possible Idle for trading cards likely. Or maybe he's like me and gets stuck at character creation.
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shrach posted:I'm not sure where you are getting those 75% figures from. You should check the links. Foundry 42 Ltd and Roberts Space Industries UK Ltd are both owned 100% by Cloud Imperium Games UK Ltd. RSI UK Ltd only has one share in issue for example. I think we're of the same mind on this. Does that make us the antipope of German auditors? Or are we both Smart now? 
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Yo moma remember how I said that they had until like wednesday before thanksgiving to get 2.6 out to the ecovati before the holiday hosed them up and they had to wait till the next week to try again? Yeah its like that but worse with christmas. They know they have till the 16th for release, anything after that and its pushing too close into the holidays and all the vacation time that most employees take. Chris will send his teams an angry email from Hawaii during his 7th vacation of the year over the Christmas holiday. The employees will not get a vacation. They'll get the weekend off for Christmas. And they'll be thankful to The Roberts for it, too. 
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Just remember in the middle of all the this excitement, that it's not ok to doxx people or threaten their lives.
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Friendly Humour posted:Just remember in the middle of all the this excitement, that it's not ok to doxx people or threaten their lives. So don't be  , gotcha.
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ManofManyAliases posted:I can pretty much confirm this to be the case. Yeah, sorry for your loss. 2.6 spoiler. 
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quote:The next-gen development consoles are impressive enough to work with our high standards, but I want to say this: nothing is being taken away here. The net benefit of releasing Star Citizen and Squadron 42 on the future XBOX and PlayStation consoles far outweighs the bad. It allows us a bare minimum overhead that expands to nearly limitless levels on PC.
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Friendly Humour posted:Just remember in the middle of all the this excitement, that it's not ok to doxx people or threaten their lives.
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Fooma posted:Idle for trading cards likely. Or maybe he's like me and gets stuck at character creation. I walk in a room shoot people run out of ammo and die, this goes on for a couple of tries then I close it and try again in a month, doing the same thing 
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TheAgent posted:quote: You see, this is why Shitizens aren't taking us seriously anymore. This poo poo ain't funny, man.
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D_Smart posted:You see, this is why Shitizens aren't taking us seriously anymore. This poo poo ain't funny, man.
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