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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/361376/the-one-thing-we-asked-disco-lando-to-do
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Dec 14, 2016 05:35
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Dec 14, 2016 05:36
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Ten bucks it's the video that's sped up.
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Dec 14, 2016 05:38
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Fargin Icehole posted:Ten bucks it's the video that's sped up.
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Dec 14, 2016 05:39
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ewe2 posted:Why can't they ban the person i hate on a forum i don't belong to and don't make comments in, it's not fair. It's not just not fair, I'm almost certain it's a conspiracy.
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Dec 14, 2016 05:43
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Goddamnit, this scam of a game just pisses me off, I don't see wDapperDon posted:It's their pontification of the written word that I enjoy. D'awww. Thousands of pages later, I see why we have taxes.
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Dec 14, 2016 05:46
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A Neurotic Corncob posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/361376/the-one-thing-we-asked-disco-lando-to-do looks like a good metaphor for CIG
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Dec 14, 2016 05:48
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DapperDon posted:What I am saying is that it is not uncommon for that kind of deal if they are in fact using TW services. Oh I understood, perhaps I didn't articulate my point enough so my apologies. LA shipping a broken jpeg up to Manchester via TWC will be flat rate (discounted with any promotion.) Guess my point is some frilly commercial saving a few thousand bucks a month is trivial compared to their cloud costs.
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Dec 14, 2016 05:52
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DapperDon posted:Considering I have no idea what a vertical slice is, and frankly whenever I try to look it up, I run into different definitions of what that really means. In the case of this game with so many different modules, what does that mean? Basically you create a minimal set of features that represent the core premise of the game (or any software project), then you do another "slice" that expands on existing features or adds more features. Each slice represents as small of work as possible, generally 2-6 weeks. Over time and enough iterations of slices you have a viable product that is very stable and focused in its goals. The basic idea is that it forces the developer to only work on what the product "must have", not what would be "nice to have". Example: If you're going to open a lemonade stand, you need cups and lemonade. You drink the lemonade and make sure it tastes good. That's the first slice. For the second slice you get a cooler and ice. Third slice a bigger sign. etc. Compare that to "visionary" product managers who lose focus on making lemonade and are more interested in sourcing 10,000 organic lemons because they have dreams of putting Starbucks out of business. Eldragon fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Dec 14, 2016 05:56
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The irony in them complaining about Frontier's moderation not being consistent, but being joyous at CIGs inconsistent moderation is hilarious.
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Dec 14, 2016 05:57
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Hey thread whats up how are you I would like someone with a modicum of knowledge/experience in business things to explain to me the possible reasons you might want to have 15 separate companies. Because I don't know about those kinds of things and I am legit curious. Curious, but not obsessive, dont call FYAD on me. Okay maybe a little obsessive.
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Dec 14, 2016 06:11
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A Neurotic Corncob posted:I tremble at the thought of being considered a doxxer and insane murderer etc., but I just love this. Only on weekends. It's ok backers, you're not being used as money sponges. You're valued. 
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Dec 14, 2016 06:16
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Propagandist posted:Hey thread whats up how are you for legitimate reasons unrelated to the obfuscation of ill gotten gains
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Dec 14, 2016 06:27
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alf_pogs posted:for legitimate reasons unrelated to the obfuscation of ill gotten gains I feel grief that taxes weren't covered in the 4th Stimpire. We need to fill in the lore to cover this for it to be more believable.
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Dec 14, 2016 06:32
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The Titanic posted:You get a free ride, or a really horrible night in the Atlantic. 
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Dec 14, 2016 06:32
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15 companies seems a trifle excessive tho
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Dec 14, 2016 06:32
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Propagandist posted:Hey thread whats up how are you
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Dec 14, 2016 06:34
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The Titanic posted:You get a free ride, or a really horrible night in the Atlantic. I'd like you to know that these posts are wonderful pick-ups when I need them.
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Dec 14, 2016 06:38
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Nicholas posted:more 2.6 is now 3.0 rumors I can believe these because it would follow their trend lately since gamescom. Realizing the 3.0 jesus patch and procedural tech is impossible right now while still needing to have a big sale means they can just rebrand their current 91 week late content into "THREE POINT OH" to have more impact during a sale. They are out of fancy demos and tiny incremental updates they can use to trick idiots so they need to make what little they do have sound more impressive. Doing something this dumb would be purely for short term gain, relying on the stupidity of their customers to justify the decision, which is exactly what CIG has been doing in increasingly desperate ways since earlier this year. "Here is a demo we can't remotely deliver during a sale" "Here is another demo we can't remotely deliver on during another sale" "Here is embarrassingly bad years late content in a WIP testbed during a sale" is now "That embarrassingly bad years late content is actually out AND IS TOTALLY MORE IMPRESSIVE SOUNDING" If they really do re-brand 2.6 as 3.0 then thats another red flag for red flag mountain basically. Milking the whales as hard as possible while hoping their stupid selves justify why timeframes, features and promises are completely ignored for obviously desperate money grabbing
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Dec 14, 2016 06:42
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Propagandist posted:Hey thread whats up how are you To protect money and assets of a business, or personal, nature. Create corporation/llc/business/etc 1,2,3,4. Say you sue #1 for a million bucks. #1 only has 5 dollars in the bank and you point out that #1 has a 250,000 dollar car. No it doesn't. That car actually belongs to #2 and #1 was just allowed to use it. Etc, etc, on down the line. Corporations are people and can own property in the U.S. I'm pretty sure my example was dumb, but you get the idea. I hope.
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Dec 14, 2016 06:46
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spacetoaster posted:To protect money and assets of a business, or personal, nature. Yeah, on the right track. The lease is basically an expense towards the company on a monthly basis. In short, even though the car might go away on a tow truck when this baby collapses, it is cheaper than outright buying it with their salaries in the end. Expense it to the company. There is no hope with auditors in catching something. I'm sure everything is squeaky clean when they go though it all to fulfill GAAP type stuff yearly.
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Dec 14, 2016 07:01
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Okay, how about this for a follow-up: even though it LOOKs like a duck and PAARPs like a duck, could this simply be a good thing for the company to do, with no malicious intent?
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Dec 14, 2016 07:10
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well they need at least 1 company in LA that works on the game 1 company in LA that produces content about content about the game 1 company in TX that works on the game 1 company in UK for the sweet relief of tax 1 company in GR that works on the game 1 company in BRNO that works on the game so really having 7 or so more companies than that isn't a big deal because you want to shuffle some cash around like all good businesses do
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Dec 14, 2016 07:10
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Eldragon posted:Example: If you're going to open a lemonade stand, you need cups and lemonade. You drink the lemonade and make sure it tastes good. That's the first slice. For the second slice you get a cooler and ice. Third slice a bigger sign. etc. Combine that with writing each part of the slice and their interactions as a test and you've just described unit testing. So 'must have' is also 'definitely works'. This does not happen in Star Citizen and to be fair the unit testing really doesn't happen much if at all in games programming. There's a reason even Id engine code is still being bug-fixed decades later.
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Dec 14, 2016 07:22
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Propagandist posted:Okay, how about this for a follow-up: even though it LOOKs like a duck and PAARPs like a duck, could this simply be a good thing for the company to do, with no malicious intent? Just look at Ortwin and realize there is basically zero percent chance the man that set up the shell game did so without malicious intent.
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Dec 14, 2016 07:23
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DapperDon posted:Considering I have no idea what a vertical slice is, and frankly whenever I try to look it up, I run into different definitions of what that really means. In the case of this game with so many different modules, what does that mean? I'm not that great, but you're smart and I'll try to help you out, friend. A vertical slice is basically a little piece of everything working together. Not fully built, but working. For example if your game had levels and experience, and stat gains, you would have it show how your character can level up and pick a stat to increase at a level up screen; even if it had no impact on the game with that stat. You can show that "we have this system and here's what we want it to do". If your game has vehicles you'd want a vehicle example in your level, and show how you will eventually smooth it out if it's tough, like bouncy cameras or poor angles, clipping into level geometry. But the concept itself is there. For Star Citizen they would basically need a skeleton of all of their promises that are unique from each other, working together (if that's what they are supposed to do, and in this case they are). The major problem with this is that Star Citizen has basically every element from every game ever made. From Kerbal Space Program physics and EVA, to Tetris cargo loading, to drink mixing mini games, to landing on planets and mining... etc etc... To get a vertical slice would literally take longer than it would take Rockstar to make a full, complete game or two. To actually build it beyond vertical slice... I'm guessing literal decades worth of work. That is to get it "as promised". Thus won't include the eventual fat-cutting, feature reductions, and MVP release that will likely not even be close to being called a vertical slice, much less the promised product.
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Dec 14, 2016 07:23
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DapperDon posted:It's their pontification of the written word that I enjoy. This gif pulled my heart strings way more than I think you intended it to. I feel fuzzy. It's late. 
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Dec 14, 2016 07:28
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I'd like you to know that these posts are wonderful pick-ups when I need them. Glad I can help you smile and get enjoyment from the thread, friend.
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Dec 14, 2016 07:32
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TheAgent posted:well Let's do shots in BRNO.
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Dec 14, 2016 07:42
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A Neurotic Corncob posted:The Wolf Larsen Saga is my favorite thing about Star Citizen right now. 
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Dec 14, 2016 07:45
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Propagandist posted:Okay, how about this for a follow-up: even though it LOOKs like a duck and PAARPs like a duck, could this simply be a good thing for the company to do, with no malicious intent? To be honest, yes, it is a good thing for a company to do. Milton Friedman type territory. But my god, it does have consequence on peoples' lives.
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Dec 14, 2016 07:49
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TheAgent posted:hellgate london lifetime sub I miss Hellgate London. Especially since I can't find my install DVD any more...
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Dec 14, 2016 07:57
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My very first locked thread! https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5i898v/reminder_nearly_half_a_year_ago_cig_was_going_on/ 
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Dec 14, 2016 07:58
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The Titanic posted:This gif pulled my heart strings way more than I think you intended it to. I feel fuzzy. It's late. This made me smile. The Titanic posted:Glad I can help you smile and get enjoyment from the thread, friend.
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Dec 14, 2016 08:03
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DapperDon posted:My very first locked thread! Lmao even the mods are getting sick of the screaming.
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Dec 14, 2016 08:06
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ewe2 posted:Lmao even the mods are getting sick of the screaming. The BEST part is that I don't have to reply to a goddamned comment and these self rising austists go batshit!
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Dec 14, 2016 08:08
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DapperDon posted:My very first locked thread! being reminded that there are still PC Games Only warriors out there is pretty dang funny. like one guy calls all others "peasantry" which is the funniest insult the desire to be part of some magical elite best community is real
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Dec 14, 2016 08:11
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The entire PC master race stuff was a joke to make fun of elitist pc gamers, and the PC gaming community just took it and adopted it wholesale.
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Dec 14, 2016 09:51
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well, it's funny because it's true
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Dec 14, 2016 09:53
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alf_pogs posted:being reminded that there are still PC Games Only warriors out there is pretty dang funny. like one guy calls all others "peasantry" which is the funniest insult doggesncattetax: 
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Dec 14, 2016 09:55
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