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When in the past was there dram price fixing?
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Dec 15, 2016 21:18
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About a decade and a half ago, the DoJ took action and everything: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing
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Dec 15, 2016 21:31
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It looks like 960 Evos are shipping from Amazon now, just got my ship notice.
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Dec 15, 2016 21:51
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So I was starting up my computer, and my 850 EVO was reading SMART status BAD. I tried different cables etc. etc. and eventually just shipped it back to Samsung and they sent me a refurb. Fortunately I had backups, so nothing lost. It only had ~8TB of writes, and hadn't been showing any strange signs before that. I'm kind of scared to plug my new SSD into the computer in case it's something I did which damaged it. Am I being paranoid? I've heard power failures can brick SSDs, is there anything else I should look out for?
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Dec 15, 2016 23:05
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Nice Van My Man posted:So I was starting up my computer, and my 850 EVO was reading SMART status BAD. I tried different cables etc. etc. and eventually just shipped it back to Samsung and they sent me a refurb. Fortunately I had backups, so nothing lost. When it showed BAD status did you try and get any data off the thing? I would have been really interested to know. Based on that answer you can poo poo your pants or not.
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Dec 15, 2016 23:59
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Nice Van My Man posted:So I was starting up my computer, and my 850 EVO was reading SMART status BAD. I tried different cables etc. etc. and eventually just shipped it back to Samsung and they sent me a refurb. Fortunately I had backups, so nothing lost. I've had three different SSDs randomly die over the years, in two completely different laptops and one desktop computer. Sometimes, it just happens.
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Dec 16, 2016 00:19
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BobHoward posted:With chips, raw materials are never the problem. Fab (factory) capacity can be. It takes a long time and an investment of several billion USD to bring a single fab online. If it turns out there isn't enough demand to sell what it can make while the fab is relatively new (depreciation on the equipment is fierce), the owner will lose enormous sums of money. So, sometimes the industry is a bit conservative about expanding production capacity. This was also due in large part to one of the cyclical collapses of the computer market in the 80s that massively dropped demand for DRAM, and left overseas manufacturers trying to sell it for anything they could get. The US accused Japanese companies of protectionism and dumping, and slapped a big tariff on DRAM imports. Which led to some computer company getting in major trouble for grinding the printing off the top of chips to try and dodge the tariff (can't find a source but I remember reading about something like that).
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Dec 16, 2016 04:31
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redeyes posted:When it showed BAD status did you try and get any data off the thing? I would have been really interested to know. Based on that answer you can poo poo your pants or not. Yep, hooked it up to another computer. It connected as "FAT32" with a storage space of 0GB. Fortunately I have a backup, so nothing lost. I was more just scared that something about my computer or usage might fry SSDs, but it seems like I was just being paranoid.
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Dec 17, 2016 00:18
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Nice Van My Man posted:Yep, hooked it up to another computer. It connected as "FAT32" with a storage space of 0GB. Fortunately I have a backup, so nothing lost. I was more just scared that something about my computer or usage might fry SSDs, but it seems like I was just being paranoid. Commence pants making GBS threads. Not good at all. (not really) but goddamn SSD controllers!
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Dec 17, 2016 02:53
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So are the Samsung 960 PROs not really out yet? Depending on the capacity, everywhere either says out of stock or some near future release date.
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Dec 17, 2016 04:34
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I want an mSATA SSD for my Thinkpad X230. Is the 240GB Intel 525 worth the $50 over the 250GB Sarnsung 850 Evo? My primary concern is reliability.
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Dec 17, 2016 16:57
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Just get the 850
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Dec 17, 2016 17:07
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Loucks posted:I want an mSATA SSD for my Thinkpad X230. Is the 240GB Intel 525 worth the $50 over the 250GB Sarnsung 850 Evo? My primary concern is reliability. Not worth it at all. Get the 850. Or a Sandisk x400 for a little savings.
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Dec 17, 2016 17:45
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Thank you!
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Dec 17, 2016 18:00
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i got a 1TB 850 Evo to supplant/add to my current 500GB model during black friday that i havent installed yet is cloning really worth the extra overhead to replace it as the boot drive or should i just put it in and call it a day since i already have an SSD there anyways
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Dec 17, 2016 21:21
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RME posted:i got a 1TB 850 Evo to supplant/add to my current 500GB model during black friday that i havent installed yet Not really, but the 1TB EVO *does* have the same controller chip as the Pro (the MEX instead of the MGX), it has 1GB of DRAM buffer to the 500GB's 512MB. Same speed and IOPS, though.
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Dec 17, 2016 21:23
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Most stuff nowadays doesn't care if it is installed on c: or somewhere else so just adding another drive isn't much of a hassle. I put my new 1TB into use as a games drive, I like to keep my boot/os/apps on one and games on another. Then the boot/os gets the faster stuff first (next upgrade I will migrate to nvme) and I don't need to move around game stuff (which is really fast enough on sata III ssd for me)
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Dec 17, 2016 21:52
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priznat posted:Most stuff nowadays doesn't care if it is installed on c: or somewhere else so just adding another drive isn't much of a hassle. Confirmed, PC don't care. Use two 1tb evos for games for steam, uplay, and origin. Use a 3tb WD green for Plex storage. Finally, a 250gb mushkin chronos deluxe for Windows. Everything works great without issue.
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Dec 17, 2016 22:02
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For those of you who have a 960 EVO/Pro or SM951, Samsung put out a new driver today that should net you some extra performance: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/samsung-nvme-ssd-driver-download.html
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Dec 22, 2016 02:40
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This is probably more a thing for the Haus but my 4½ yo Crucial M4 is acting up. For the last couple of days the PC will sometimes partly or totally freeze (partly as in I can still move the mouse and some programs will continue to work) and if it recovers the taskmanager will show 100% disk usage. Some of the time when that happens I even get notifications from some Intel program telling me the SSD was disconnected and reconnected. My guess is it's toast but I figured maybe someone here will go "obviously it's {REASON} you idiot" and everything will be fine, can't hurt to ask. I replaced the SATA cable a few minutes ago as a last resort. And it hasn't crashed yet but I suspect it will happen any. second. now.
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Dec 22, 2016 12:40
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Sereri posted:This is probably more a thing for the Haus but my 4½ yo Crucial M4 is acting up. For the last couple of days the PC will sometimes partly or totally freeze (partly as in I can still move the mouse and some programs will continue to work) and if it recovers the taskmanager will show 100% disk usage. Some of the time when that happens I even get notifications from some Intel program telling me the SSD was disconnected and reconnected. Those drives were known to have issues - are you on the latest firmware? http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/support-ssd-firmware
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Dec 22, 2016 14:12
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Yeah, I've been on the latest firmware since it came out, never had a problem until now
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Dec 22, 2016 14:30
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My Crucial M4 isn't always mounting, Crystal Disk Info thinks it is OK but it's just over four years old now. Any other ways for testing it? Must be Crucial drive dying time. I was between the bugged firmwares. Carecat fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Dec 22, 2016 22:23
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BIG HEADLINE posted:For those of you who have a 960 EVO/Pro or SM951, Samsung put out a new driver today that should net you some extra performance: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/samsung-nvme-ssd-driver-download.html Also recent firmwares, drivers, and toolbox for Intel 750: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/86741/Intel-SSD-750-Series-1-2TB-2-5in-PCIe-3-0-20nm-MLC-
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Dec 23, 2016 16:34
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I have a really old laptop with a 5400 RPM hard drive in it. I'm gonna get an SSD. Is it still a bad move to migrate with `dd if=/dev/hdd of=/dev/ssd`? I don't feel reinstalling my whole system for this, but I will if I need to.
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Dec 23, 2016 20:12
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xtal posted:I have a really old laptop with a 5400 RPM hard drive in it. I'm gonna get an SSD. Is it still a bad move to migrate with `dd if=/dev/hdd of=/dev/ssd`? I don't feel reinstalling my whole system for this, but I will if I need to. Depending on when/how the disk was partitioned, it may be poorly aligned with the physical blocks of the SSD, in which case a 1:1 copy as you suggest would turn out troublesome performance-wise, and for the lifespan of the SSD. It's better to make an equivalent but not necessarily identical partition structure on the target and then copy each partition, potentially in a filesystem-aware way.
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Dec 23, 2016 20:52
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nielsm posted:Depending on when/how the disk was partitioned, it may be poorly aligned with the physical blocks of the SSD, in which case a 1:1 copy as you suggest would turn out troublesome performance-wise, and for the lifespan of the SSD. It's better to make an equivalent but not necessarily identical partition structure on the target and then copy each partition, potentially in a filesystem-aware way. Won't that miss the copying of the boot record though? Essentially rendering the new disk unbootable?
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Dec 24, 2016 23:59
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Don't Most SSD brands have a migration tool you can boot off a USB to use?
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Dec 25, 2016 01:39
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Varkk posted:Don't Most SSD brands have a migration tool you can boot off a USB to use? No, but you can easily make one with clonezilla or whatever.
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Dec 25, 2016 01:48
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Question: I have one 1TB Evo 950 SSD in my PC. I just bought another one because gently caress having to uninstall games to make space. On Windows 10, what's the best, hassle-free option to add the new drive's space to C: ?
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Dec 25, 2016 16:05
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Alchenar posted:Question: I have one 1TB Evo 950 SSD in my PC. I just bought another one because gently caress having to uninstall games to make space. On Windows 10, what's the best, hassle-free option to add the new drive's space to C: ? Short answer: You don't. Long answer: It's troublesome and a really bad idea for several reasons. The main thing is that to "merge" two physical storage devices you have to use either RAID or similar in either RAID-0 or JBOD mode, and both of those will decrease reliability: Instead of one point of failure you now have two points of failure, and if either of those two fail you lose everything. Arguably JBOD is safer in that you will typically be able to recover more data in case of failure, but it's still a larger risk. Running a RAID mode will most likely decrease performance with NVMe devices. Having your operating system on a software RAID can be quite troublesome. Just do the sane thing and have it appear as an additional drive. If you want to be fancy you can have it mounted as a subfolder on C: rather than as a separate drive letter. E.g. you could actually have the second drive mounted as "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps" and then everything placed under that folder would be on the second drive, but nothing else would. It's not quite merging the two together to a single large space, but it looks somewhat similar. It obviously gives different limitations than having it as a straight separate drive letter too.
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Dec 25, 2016 18:38
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Wait, you can set a drive root as a symlink to a folder on your main drive? Why didn't I think of this earlier...
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Dec 25, 2016 21:44
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nielsm posted:Short answer: You don't. Thanks. There's no real reason not to have it as an additional drive other than for neatness' sake.
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Dec 25, 2016 22:46
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Ynglaur posted:Wait, you can set a drive root as a symlink to a folder on your main drive? Why didn't I think of this earlier... Not (just) symlink, actually mount. Done in the Disk Management console. 
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Dec 25, 2016 23:09
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Alchenar posted:Thanks. There's no real reason not to have it as an additional drive other than for neatness' sake. This was the good answer too. Most applications are drive agnostic per best practice now, so it's not too much trouble during install of games (especially Steam games) to switch to G: or whatever else you want to label the game drive. Playing around with volume extrnsion or raid on a typical home / gaming computer can get you into a pickle that's hard to wiggle out of later down the road. One volume, one drive. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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Dec 26, 2016 03:51
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nielsm posted:Not (just) symlink, actually mount. Done in the Disk Management console. I'd use a proper emote for "mind blown" if I weren't on my mobile. Thanks.
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Dec 26, 2016 04:03
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If you mount it like that, does it report free space separately for the mounted path and the partition its "inside"?
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Dec 26, 2016 04:21
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:If you mount it like that, does it report free space separately for the mounted path and the partition its "inside"? If you right click -> properties on the root drive ( eg C: ), you'll get the space free for only that drive, not any drives mounted to folders. If you right click -> properties on the mount folder ( eg C:\GAMES ), you'll get nothing, the graph will be empty. On that page will be a 'drive properties' button that will then give the free space for the mounted drive.
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Dec 26, 2016 08:15
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The german magazine c't did some sequential write endurance testing. They bought two ~250GB drives per model in retail stores and published the worse result. 750 Evo lasted 1203 TB instead of the guaranteed 70TBW. 850 Pro lasted 4623 TB (yes 4,6 Petabyte) instead of the guaranteed 150TBW and is still going. The worst tested model, a Crucial BX200, still managed 188TB instead of 72TBW.
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Dec 26, 2016 22:13
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We had an Intel P3700 400GB HHHL card just clicked over to read only mode, need to use the utility to see how much was written to it. They are rated to 7.3PBW so I don't know how we killed it that bad.
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