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TheChaosPath posted:I hear that flags fly for a pretty long time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Q7b-vHY3Q
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TheChaosPath posted:I hear that flags fly for a pretty long time I doubt Chapman cares how long the flags fly for Chicago, but he did get a massive deal so he should be happy regardless
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Dec 16, 2016 18:42
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Intruder posted:I doubt Chapman cares how long the flags fly for Chicago, but he did get a massive deal so he should be happy regardless I mean if he doesn't want his ring I'm sure the Cubs can oblige.
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Dec 16, 2016 18:43
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Chapman also said that he didn't talk to Maddon about it because it's his job to play whenever they ask, through whatever else he thinks about it so maybe calm down a little.quote:“But he is the manager and he has a strategy. My job is to be ready to pitch. As far as how my arm feels now, I feel great. I'm healthy. My arm is strong.” Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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Dec 16, 2016 18:45
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Sydin posted:I mean if he doesn't want his ring I'm sure the Cubs can oblige. This isn't some mutually exclusive thing, you can be happy you won a title but not happy about how your career was potentially shortened by being misused
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Dec 16, 2016 18:48
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Intruder posted:This isn't some mutually exclusive thing, you can be happy you won a title but not happy about how your career was potentially shortened by being misused Nope, the Cubs won the World Series so all actions leading up to it are now unassailably correct
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Dec 16, 2016 18:51
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Yo momma's unassailably correct
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Dec 16, 2016 18:55
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Also why do you guys love a game that is completely inferior to the best baseball game of all time, Super Baseball Simulator 1000?
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Chapman did everything Maddon asked him without complaining, or bringing it up in the media. He was asked a question and gave an honest answer as to how he felt now that it's behind him. Like I'm happy as poo poo about the Cubs winning the world title. But that doesn't mean if when looking back over that series you see some questionable decisions you can't bring them up and call them out. Criticism doesn't mean you hate anything other than what you are specifically bringing up. It doesn't mean he's not happy to win the ring. He's just saying he felt like he was misused(which almost everyone even during the series was saying) Maddon completely botched the pitching staff in Games 6 and 7. I'm happy as motherfucking poo poo it worked out at the end as it will forever be my happiest sports memory. But just because it worked out this time doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be brought up. What some of yall are saying is only marginally different than the assholes who say "Go back to Africa" to black people who have criticisms of this country. Like man. I get not liking the dude, but don't get dumb about it.
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But you can't criticize Maddon, he's worth like +16.5 wins or whatever it was (tied with the Cardinals)
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Intruder posted:But you can't criticize Maddon, he's worth like +16.5 wins or whatever it was (tied with the Cardinals) Goons, being, Goons
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Intruder posted:Also why do you guys love a game that is completely inferior to the best baseball game of all time, Super Baseball Simulator 1000? You misspelled "Bad News Baseball"
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Dec 16, 2016 19:23
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Hey cubs posters, maybe realize that Chapman is a baseball player and not a cubs fan? Thanks.
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I hope someone livestreams themselves flushing their Cubs ring, and I hope it's someone I can like, like not-Chapman
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Capt. Sticl posted:You misspelled "Bad News Baseball" Yeah this is my 1b with 2020
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will_colorado posted:https://twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/809796169803190272 How dare this Chapman give a poo poo about his arm, the single thing that brings his family millions of dollars. Why should he care if there is increased chance of injury when pitching fatigued. Stop whining! edit: I say this as someone that hates Chapman, but I mean commone, he had a manager misuse/overuse him, something that very likely could have injured him and changed his earnings over his career dramatically. He is allowed to voice that opinion. patonthebach fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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if your argument is that Chapman cares about his family then have I got a story for you
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IcePhoenix posted:Yeah this is my 1b with 2020 Speaking of first base, there was a glitch in Bad News where you could run off first base (as fielder) and throw the ball towards the stands. The ball would deflect off and you could throw the runner out at second. Other people used this to throw a "perfect" game right?
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Intruder posted:Also why do you guys love a game that is completely inferior to the best baseball game of all time, Super Baseball Simulator 1000? When you have a massive hard-on for robots, the choice is clear. Also, I didn't grow up experiencing Baseball Simulator, just RBI games and 2020.
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Capt. Sticl posted:Speaking of first base, there was a glitch in Bad News where you could run off first base (as fielder) and throw the ball towards the stands. The ball would deflect off and you could throw the runner out at second. The only thing I remember that seemed unfair is playing as Toronto and always scoring with Doug by getting a bunt single, stealing second and third, then squeezing him home.
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patonthebach posted:How dare this Chapman give a poo poo about his arm, the single thing that brings his family millions of dollars. Why should he care if there is increased chance of injury when pitching fatigued. Stop whining!
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https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/809836954317713408 Dozier owns but you gotta think De Leon plus a lesser prospect or two would be pretty tempting for the Twins
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bawfuls posted:On the other hand he just signed what is very likely to be the most lucrative contract of his career. Even if his usage this year destroyed his arm, it didn't cost him much earnings potential. He made it to his pay day. Still if asked a question he is going to answer it with whatever is his truth. Unless you want him to lie anyway. If he had refused to pitch or complained during it then sure. But he did everything his manager asked him to do and didn't complain(publicly at least).
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Word I've seen is that Twins wanted JDL AND Bellinger to begin with, and the Dodgers said no to that. Something like JDL, an arm like Bueler or Stewart maybe, and a lesser lotto ticket arm might get it done in the end. Calhoun seems like exactly the kind of player that should be in this deal, since everything I've read suggests his bat is legit but he's a pretty terribly 2B and should end up in the AL sooner than later. But it sounds like the Twins want pitching pitching and more pitching.
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https://twitter.com/JArrieta34/status/809863014497341441 (Arrieta went to TCU, La Stella went to Coastal Carolina, they were in the finals of the College World Series and I guess this was the result of their wager)
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Dexo posted:Maddon completely botched the pitching staff in Games 6 and 7. I'm happy as motherfucking poo poo it worked out at the end as it will forever be my happiest sports memory. But just because it worked out this time doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be brought up. If the situation in game 6 had been reversed: Cubs up 3-2 in the series but the Indians winning 7-2 in the 7th at Wrigley with nine outs that still needed recording, do you think Francona would have hesitated for a heartbeat to put in Miller? I know the comparison isn't exactly 1:1 since Miller is a different beast and more suited to a long man role, but the point stands that in a situation where you back is against the wall in the WS and you're facing a team that is very good and very capable of making up a 5 run deficit, you don't gently caress around. You go to your absolute most dominant arm and lock the goddamn game down. The Cubs gave up a lot of talent for Chapman, and it was all in the name of having him in a Cubs uniform come the post season to win games. Posters have made good points about Chapman's comments and I admit I was dumb and overreacted to an innocuous statement, but the continuing criticism of Maddon for having the audacity to heavily lean on his best reliever in gamesv he absolutely could not afford to lose is stupid. Dexo posted:If he had refused to pitch or complained during it then sure. But he did everything his manager asked him to do and didn't complain(publicly at least). This is true and even after he was completely and utterly gassed he still went out and pitched the bottom of the 9th and got three outs throwing nothing but sliders. You can't say he didn't absolutely give the Cubs his all.
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If you're Chapman and you came that close to blowing the Cubs chance at a WS of course you say you weren't used optimally. I'm sure he still feels a fair amount of anxiety about almost becoming the new goat. Either way it was a pretty innocuous statement and I really wouldn't read that much into it.
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Popete posted:Either way it was a pretty innocuous statement and I really wouldn't read that much into it. Seriously, the entire actual quote is perfectly reasonable and that tweet (and all the headlines around it) are some Puig-level bullshit.
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Sydin posted:If the situation in game 6 had been reversed: Cubs up 3-2 in the series but the Indians winning 7-2 in the 7th at Wrigley with nine outs that still needed recording, do you think Francona would have hesitated for a heartbeat to put in Miller? Yes
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I'm fine with whatever ends chapmans career sooner, bravo Madden
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If anything, Maddon didn't abuse Chapman nearly enough.
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Sydin posted:If the situation in game 6 had been reversed: Cubs up 3-2 in the series but the Indians winning 7-2 in the 7th at Wrigley with nine outs that still needed recording, do you think Francona would have hesitated for a heartbeat to put in Miller? I know the comparison isn't exactly 1:1 since Miller is a different beast and more suited to a long man role, but the point stands that in a situation where you back is against the wall in the WS and you're facing a team that is very good and very capable of making up a 5 run deficit, you don't gently caress around. You go to your absolute most dominant arm and lock the goddamn game down. The Cubs gave up a lot of talent for Chapman, and it was all in the name of having him in a Cubs uniform come the post season to win games. When you had him (someone that relies largly on velocity) pitch hella pitches in the game before yes. You save him for last resort. If they get a couple on base or score a couple of runs. Then sure you bring him in. But don't blow him uselessly. And even then in game Seven he took Hendricks out too soon, brought Lester in with someone on base, and then took Lester out too soon.
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Sydin posted:Has there been any real look by fangraphs/etc into what style of pitching tends to perform best in Coors? Or at least something a bit more complex then "try to get ground balls?" The Rockies themselves tried a changeup heavy staff based on the thought process bawfuls outlined. Baseball Between The Numbers has a chapter exploring how well that went. Granted that's like decade-old analytics at this point but it sounds like exactly what you're looking for.
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So wtf is going on with EE? I can't believe the best hitter on the market is having so much trouble finding a landing spot No wonder players hate the QO
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I love Eddie, but he's a 1B/DH who is on the wrong end of his career arc. As a fan I want him back, but I can't blame GM's for not picking up a contract that is almost guaranteed to suck in the back half.
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elentar posted:happy holidays I have no idea what that monstrosity is but I want to purchase this, damnit: 
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Intruder posted:So wtf is going on with EE? I can't believe the best hitter on the market is having so much trouble finding a landing spot You know it's gotten bad when the latest rumors are that the A's think they can pick him up an a one year bargain deal to flip at the deadline.  Dexo posted:When you had him (someone that relies largly on velocity) pitch hella pitches in the game before yes. I absolutely agree that Hendricks and then Lester were yanked too soon in G7. And while you could certainly drudge up posts of mine from the WS G6 GTD where I'm complaining quite forcefully about Chapman's usage, upon reflection I at least understand what Maddon was doing. It's all win or go home, and what do you do if you put in Wood or Grimm or somebody else, and they load the bases because the pen has been really inconsistent all post season? He wanted to secure the win so the Cubs could have a game 7.
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