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Schneider Heim posted:Has Superman ever had one of his rogues reform and work with him, a la Clayface?
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Schneider Heim posted:Has Superman ever had one of his rogues reform and work with him, a la Clayface? Batman 
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Dec 14, 2016 19:38
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Emil Hamilton was a villain who reformed (and then unreformed in a super-lovely story.) Doomsday briefly became good.
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Does Lobo count.
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Lurdiak posted:Does Lobo count. Not very well! redbackground fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Dec 14, 2016 20:06
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Lobo isn't one of Superman's rogues. He's The Main Man.
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Dec 14, 2016 20:11
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Schneider Heim posted:Has Superman ever had one of his rogues reform and work with him, a la Clayface? That electric girl, whom Superman gave his old blue costume to.
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Dec 14, 2016 21:46
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WickedHate posted:That electric girl, whom Superman gave his old blue costume to.
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Dec 14, 2016 21:52
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Halloween Jack posted:Lobo isn't one of Superman's rogues. He's The Main Man. Superman is one of Lobo's rogues
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Endless Mike posted:Superman is one of Lobo's rogues Yeah. Back when one of his powers was bleeding creates clones.
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Schneider Heim posted:Has Superman ever had one of his rogues reform and work with him, a la Clayface? There's a friendly version of the Toyman, but he's not the same person as the original Toyman, Winslow Schott, so it's not really a reformation.
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Isn't Metallo currently a hero?
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Selachian posted:There's a friendly version of the Toyman, but he's not the same person as the original Toyman, Winslow Schott, so it's not really a reformation. Also the friendly Toyman was revealed to be a robot created by the original Toyman because Geoff Johns loving refuses to let the rest of us have the things we like.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Also the friendly Toyman was revealed to be a robot created by the original Toyman because Geoff Johns loving refuses to let the rest of us have the things we like. The Asian kid was a robot?
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Until now literally the only thing I knew about the good Toyman was that Jeph Loeb used him to tell a terrible joke about Power Girl's tits.
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Rhyno posted:The Asian kid was a robot? According to Action 865. Wiki says the New 52 version is a real boy, though.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:According to Action 865. God drat it Johns.
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Dec 16, 2016 00:59
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I haven't read Lex Luthor being in the Justice League yet, and have always assumed it to be a con on his part. I also didn't know about the Doomsday bit. Thanks!
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bobkatt013 posted:Isn't Metallo currently a hero? IIRC, he's currently dead. But yes, he did do a face turn.
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Lex is genuinely being a hero. He's still Lex, but he's saving Metropoliptians in his Superman suit and not necessarily scheming to kill anyone. edit: Except his sister, I guess, but she's a supervillain ATM.
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Is Captain Cold still a Justice Leaguer and a hero?
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Is Captain Cold still a Justice Leaguer and a hero? No he went Rogue again. I don't really remember if they even explained how or why he did since he seemed to be having a good time playing hero.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Lex is genuinely being a hero. He's still Lex, but he's saving Metropoliptians in his Superman suit and not necessarily scheming to kill anyone. "I could have cured cancer...if only I didn't have to keep answering the JLA emergency summons! "
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Why doesn't Superboy work as well as Robin or Kid Flash?
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I've been pretty cool with every Superboy except for the ones that are just a tiny Superman. 90s Superboy, Connor Superboy, and Jon Superboy all rule.
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SonicRulez posted:Why doesn't Superboy work as well as Robin or Kid Flash? Robin practically created the entire sidekick concept and Kid Flash was introduced just before the fad died out not long into Barry's tenure. Superboy was just too late, and Supergirl(also from decades earlier) already filled a lot of his niche anyway.
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purple death ray posted:I've been pretty cool with every Superboy except for the ones that are just a tiny Superman. 90s Superboy, Connor Superboy, and Jon Superboy all rule. Aren't those first two the same one? Or have I literally missed that for the last 15 years?
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Okay so as I've been reading through tons of books I've been noticing that theres a lot of good stuff that comes from image, and it's also varied you know like they don't just do superhero comics. So i don't really know much about image's history but i know it was started by McFarlane and liefeld and Jim Lee and some others and that they were doing spawn and wildcats and i think youngblood? and okay my point is that the publisher started with hero type books. I know this may be a silly question but was the change just a natural outgrowth of name recognition earned over time gaining trust and willingness by creators to go to them with their work, or was there a moment where the original guys moved on from actually making books and that allowed others in move in and full the void, or like an editorial decision to change it up? Am i just completely off base and they've been putting out unique stuff the whole time? lol
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Gaz-L posted:Aren't those first two the same one? Or have I literally missed that for the last 15 years? Are they? poo poo, they are. Well, both of his designs are good.
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site posted:Okay so as I've been reading through tons of books I've been noticing that theres a lot of good stuff that comes from image, and it's also varied you know like they don't just do superhero comics. So i don't really know much about image's history but i know it was started by McFarlane and liefeld and Jim Lee and some others and that they were doing spawn and wildcats and i think youngblood? and okay my point is that the publisher started with hero type books. All those guys came out of doing superhero comics and continued to make their own under the Image umbrella, but they all had their own studios. Some folded (I think), some got merged back in with the mainstream (Wildstorm got bought by DC), and some continued as just the brand. Same with the creators, some moved onto publishing, some kept doing their work, some went back to the Big Two. Image for a long time was mainly known for creator owned superhero work (with exceptions like Maxx) and they weren't doing to well in the early/late 00's. Not sure what changed, but they started becoming a publisher of other creator owned works and whoever is there has a really good eye for talent. I think that it being started by creators let them attract others with fairly good terms and they've been willing to take risks. I wanna say they started publishing some webcomics and got a hit with Walking Dead and that was the start of the change in direction.
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site posted:Okay so as I've been reading through tons of books I've been noticing that theres a lot of good stuff that comes from image, and it's also varied you know like they don't just do superhero comics. So i don't really know much about image's history but i know it was started by McFarlane and liefeld and Jim Lee and some others and that they were doing spawn and wildcats and i think youngblood? and okay my point is that the publisher started with hero type books. Someone, maybe E&C made a really good effort post about Image some time ago that went into their history, but no, they didn't start out as the company they are now. Early Image was 110% style over substance. I don't remember when they started pushing away from superheroes, but they began to bring in good writers somewhat early.
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SonicRulez posted:Why doesn't Superboy work as well as Robin or Kid Flash? Superboy was never used as a sidekick. They rarely even teamed up. Superboy does stand on his own better than Kid Flash, though even Kid Flash does fine away from his mentor.
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Superboy wasn't his own being until 1993. Prior to that he was just a younger version of Superman. And when he did become his own thing he had a series run for like 9 years which is no small accomplishment.
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I didn't see a grading thread in BSS, so I figure this is probably the thread to ask this particular question: In my case, is a grading service worth it? I have 3 books that are in the $150 to $300 range and 5 in the $40-$60 range, depending on where you are looking and what your definition of "very fine to near-mint" is. I'd like to part with these books and put some money in my pocket, but I'd also like to avoid wasting my time for a couple extra bucks. Also, I'm in Canada, which would mean shipping costs and a lovely exchange rate. Is there any point using a grading service if I want to sell these online? Or should I see what I could get from a local shop or convention without grading? Thanks in advance, BSS.
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SonicRulez posted:Why doesn't Superboy work as well as Robin or Kid Flash? They should have named him Flashboy instead.
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Wasn't Rob Liefeld actually heavily responsible for the Image renaissance, or did it just start and end with him going "Okay. They can reboot my old comics. Sure" edit: and then "Whatever. I've gotta do some revitalizing of my own. Hawk and Dove!" Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Dec 27, 2016 |
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Dillbag posted:I didn't see a grading thread in BSS, so I figure this is probably the thread to ask this particular question: How old are the books?
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Rhyno posted:Superboy wasn't his own being until 1993. Prior to that he was just a younger version of Superman. And when he did become his own thing he had a series run for like 9 years which is no small accomplishment. And he was a fairly standard teen superhero with attitude in the 1990s, which I think is important. When Geoff Johns started writing him he was a bit of a sad-sack who moped about his evil Luthor genes and then died.
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Dillbag posted:I didn't see a grading thread in BSS, so I figure this is probably the thread to ask this particular question: What are the actual issues?
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