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veni veni veni posted:I don't think he understands how unappealing stuff like Star Trek, Stargate, babylon 5, Farscape etc. is to the average person, because people that actually like those shows live in a bubble of people that actually watch them. Absolutely this. veni veni veni posted:Also, related unpopular opinion. I hate "world building" and prefer to call it bloat. But how else will I know where my nerdy daydreaming fits in the Expended Timeline or the List of Light Side Paragon Jedi Powers???
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Grandmother of Five posted:sci-fi and fantasy should be considered settings, not genres. that goes for other genres that only define the setting and not the narrative; like westerns and other period pieces. these genres are often and rightfully considered trashy because great literature transcends their setting instead of being defined by it. Definetly agree with this. I enjoy both as a setting. Sci fi I enjoy probably more than any other setting. I'd much rather watch something like Alien or Moon or Blade Runner or Mad Max etc. than some drawn out info dump. All of those stories stand on their own but use sci fi to elevate them. A lot of sci fi and fantasy confuses tmi with being good.
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Aramek posted:Star Wars kicks rear end because it's got magic and kung fu and space ships and laser swords. It's like a huge pile of awesome poo poo for winners. EPIC BACON AWESOMESAUCE FOR THE WIN
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Why would anybody waste money on all these Star Wars and Star Trek garbage projects, when there is a perfectly good series of Lexx waiting to be made.
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veni veni veni posted:Definetly agree with this. I enjoy both as a setting. Sci fi I enjoy probably more than any other setting. I'd much rather watch something like Alien or Moon or Blade Runner or Mad Max etc. than some drawn out info dump. All of those stories stand on their own but use sci fi to elevate them. A lot of sci fi and fantasy confuses tmi with being good. Agreed! I was trying to think of how best to say, "I only like sci fi if it's the lesser classification of the genre," but referring to it as a setting instead really clarifies the idea. Alien and Moon were excellent not because they were sci fi, but because they used sci fi elements to strengthen the important factors of their primary genre. They both use sci fi to amplify the loneliness and helplessness of a horror and psychological drama rather than using technology as magic.
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Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:lexx blows A very appropriate post in this thread.
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Could Star Wars actually get a little more creative with their planets? If I see another desert world, I will scream.
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Power_of_the_glory posted:Could Star Wars actually get a little more creative with their planets? If I see another desert world, I will scream. They only have worlds that we have climates here on Earth. Expecting anything different or more creative is crazy.
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Power_of_the_glory posted:Could Star Wars actually get a little more creative with their planets? If I see another desert world, I will scream. Sorry, you're stuck with either ice planet, desert planet, or swamp planet. Or space station. That's it.
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Hey now Star Wars also has rock planets.
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veni veni veni posted:Hey now Star Wars also has rock planets. Those are asteroids.
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Das Boo posted:Agreed! I was trying to think of how best to say, "I only like sci fi if it's the lesser classification of the genre," but referring to it as a setting instead really clarifies the idea. Alien and Moon were excellent not because they were sci fi, but because they used sci fi elements to strengthen the important factors of their primary genre. They both use sci fi to amplify the loneliness and helplessness of a horror and psychological drama rather than using technology as magic. But but what about rich white men who have never held a human conversation writing about what they think Real Science will do for them in the future? (The answer usually involves them having twelve year old girlfriends, but you guys it's really good I swear if you just ignore that bit)
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Sorry, you're stuck with either ice planet, desert planet, or swamp planet. Or space station. That's it. you can thank Zahn for widening the range to include : city planet, mining 
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Hey come on at least gas giant planet was cool, especially at the time, don't you dare deny it 
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steinrokkan posted:EPIC BACON AWESOMESAUCE FOR THE WIN Even this poo poo is better than sad and boring movies.
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Strategic Tea posted:But but what about rich white men who have never held a human conversation writing about what they think Real Science will do for them in the future? Have you actually read scifi? Philip K. Dick, Iain M. Banks, Hannu Rajaniemi, that kind of stuff?
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Yeah and I really like it. I'm no fan of the old guard 'future history' type stuff though, and that often seems to be what people mean when they call for serious exploration of technology. At least when it gets to the point of 'xyz isn't real sci fi'.
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Aramek posted:Even this poo poo is better than sad and boring movies. It takes a sad and boring person to post the sort of commercialist garbage you've been writing in this thread. I hope you are just trolling with that.
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You can enjoy both dumb poo poo and intellectual poo poo Sometimes even in the same day(???)
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Having no guilty pleasures is a sign of strong character
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yeah I eat rear end posted:They go out of their way to not act like a military, and go out of their way to distinguish themselves from "war-like" races. In DS9 for example they only have one "warship" (even though they could easily make more), despite the fact that their enemies have hundreds. With every other ships the weapons/shields are more of an afterthought. yeah I eat rear end posted:In star wars they are just religious fanatics that sometimes fight, but that is not their primary function. Jerry Cotton posted:You're defining sci-fi in a way that makes it a useless phrase. (Sci-Fi is a sub-set of fantasy anyway yeah I eat rear end posted:The only famous actors star wars has are only famous because they were in star wars. yeah i'm including harrison ford in that yeah I eat rear end posted:also I think they are planning reboot(s) of the original movie, but from what I heard the original movie guy is involved and wants it to ignore everything that was established in SG-1/atlantis so I am expecting it to be terrible. Grandmother of Five posted:sci-fi and fantasy should be considered settings, not genres. that goes for other genres that only define the setting and not the narrative; like westerns and other period pieces. these genres are often and rightfully considered trashy because great literature transcends their setting instead of being defined by it. yeah I eat rear end posted:Sorry, you're stuck with either ice planet, desert planet, or swamp planet. Or space station. That's it.
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News shouldn't give up time for sports, I tuned in to learn what's going on in the world not some uninteresting crap about some twat making their first century. Public funds shouldn't be spent on sports unless it's things like public grounds everybody can use. Sports fans are really sensitive to criticism for some weird reason, and lastly Russian dashcams are boring, I get why people watch them but there is something about Russian ones I just find unappealing.
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Tarantula posted:News shouldn't give up time for sports, I tuned in to learn what's going on in the world not some uninteresting crap about some twat making their first century. Public funds shouldn't be spent on sports unless it's things like public grounds everybody can use. Sports fans are really sensitive to criticism for some weird reason, and lastly Russian dashcams are boring, I get why people watch them but there is something about Russian ones I just find unappealing. There's a growing wave of sports fans who realize that public funding for stadiums is really dumb (San Diego just told the Chargers to gently caress off) but it's still a minority.
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Solice Kirsk posted:So the Chargers are moving to LA to fail in 6 seasons like the Rams? More like two seasons but yes. And the Raiders are moving to Vegas for similar reasons.
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Stargate: Universe is my favourite of the various Stargate series.
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Technocrat posted:Stargate: Universe is my favourite of the various Stargate series. Out of all the bad opinions posted in this thread, even mine, this is by far the worst and most offensive.
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Eating rear end is not sexy.
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Unpopular Replacements Opinion: Everything they did after Bob Stinson druggied out of the band was pretty mediocre at best, and their last couple albums were just plain bad. Which is really depressing because everything up to and including Let It Be was brilliant. Possibly Unpopular Replacements Opinion: everything Nirvana did and won accolades/massive sales for, the 'Mats did first and better.
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Tarantula posted:News shouldn't give up time for sports, I tuned in to learn what's going on in the world not some uninteresting crap about some twat making their first century. Public funds shouldn't be spent on sports unless it's things like public grounds everybody can use. Sports fans are really sensitive to criticism for some weird reason, and lastly Russian dashcams are boring, I get why people watch them but there is something about Russian ones I just find unappealing. The only Russian dashcam I find interesting are the ones when that meteorite entered the atmosphere. There were far too many drivers totally uninterested.
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poptart_fairy posted:Eating rear end is not sexy. Now the thread has really hit a new bottom...
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Missiles from Such is life.
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Tarantula posted:News shouldn't give up time for sports
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Tiggum posted:I find it really weird that newspapers and TV news shows have sports segments. It's like if they had a whole segment recapping whatever happened on TV last night. It's entertainment, not news. If I want to watch it, I'll watch it, not read about it later. Newspapers do have entire sections on entertainment
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The news has never been "all serious topics, all the time". They report stories that people want to read. Fortunately most of the world isn't Tiggum and occasionally enjoys reading how their favorite sports team did or how the weather is or whatever.
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I don't understand why a newspaper would carry articles other than train timetables and technical descriptions of new elevator models.
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The "basic income" idea is flawed because people do need to have tasks. If they don't, they flounder. It doesn't matter if the task is ultimately of any use, as long as they think it is of some use. That said, people aren't being given a fair income to survive on, and this undercuts the entire system which relies on a perception of fairness.
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