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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


EL BROMANCE posted:



It's worth remembering that a lot of titles on UHD are 2K upscaled with the HDR element being the main difference over the bluray.

HDR and Wide Color Gamut.

I have to admit, I've been impressed with a few 2k upscales because of this. Mad Max Fury Road for one. Kingsman also looks noticeably better than the Blu-ray. It isn't any sharper, but you finally have a color space that matches theater protection.

That said, there's a lot of poo poo out there too. Quite a few discs are mastered with elevated black levels. Others, like Oblivion, were slathered with DNR and the resultant UHD disc has less detail than the HD Blu-ray.

I really like older titles on the format, but many will be turned off by film grain (which usually leads to the DNR problem.) Labyrinth is one such title. There's so much grain in some scenes that it looks like digital noise, but that's just being faithful to the source.

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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Yeah I have that Labyrinth disc and while it's accurate as hell, it might not be the one you want to show off a brand spanking new, and expensive, system.

I watch a bunch of late 70s/early 80s horror produced on the cheap, so film grain is part and parcel of what to expect in those releases. Better accurate than DNRd.

KTS
Jun 22, 2004

I wax my rocket every day!
I'm tearing my hair out here. I've just bought a Hisense 65M7000 and my xbox one s will not play nice. HDR games work fine, the 4k is working fine but trying to play any movie results in audio and the disc menu only, no video. It's not the Xbox, I've had that replaced but it plays fine on other tv's around the house. Googling around and I seem to be the only person on the planet that has this issue. Does anyone have any idea's as to why it's doing this?

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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First guess would be a HDCP failure for some reason. Does the hisense support hdcp 2.2? It might only be on one HDMI input so try switching them.

KTS
Jun 22, 2004

I wax my rocket every day!
Yeah, supports 2.2 through HDMI 3 & 4. I've tried both HDMI ports, different HDMI cables and have tried the xbox on an older 32" 720p tv I have and the UHD disc played fine on that.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

So, receivers. The major sites weren't much help in terms of making heads or tails of what is worth getting. I really just need 5.1, HDMI-CEC, and 4k 4:4:4@60hz support, at minimum cost.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

The ancient 57" rear projection that's been in the house for almost two decades let out the magic smoke today, now the picture looks like an old 3D image and there was a pretty foul smell coming out of it.

This just means we can finally upgrade :v: Right now I'm choosing between:

Samsung UN65KS8000 65-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV

or

2016 VIZIO SmartCast™ P-Series™ 65” Class Ultra HD HDR Home Theater Display

I would also need a stand and soundbar either way. Kinda leaning to the Vizio and popping a Roku stick in it or something, but this is all new tech to me.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

Capn Beeb posted:

The ancient 57" rear projection that's been in the house for almost two decades let out the magic smoke today, now the picture looks like an old 3D image and there was a pretty foul smell coming out of it.

This just means we can finally upgrade :v: Right now I'm choosing between:

Samsung UN65KS8000 65-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV

or

2016 VIZIO SmartCast™ P-Series™ 65” Class Ultra HD HDR Home Theater Display

I would also need a stand and soundbar either way. Kinda leaning to the Vizio and popping a Roku stick in it or something, but this is all new tech to me.

Of the two per Rtings the Samsung may be the better all around TV but the Vizio may be better for movies. http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/65-inch/best

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
I bought a Sharp LED TV about 4 years ago and recently it started clicking off as soon as I turn it on with no picture at all. I told it to the Sharp TV repair shop in town(apparently there's only one) and they told me the main power board is fried and it would be $500 to fix it. I think the exact model number is Sharp Aquos LC-52LE925UN.

Basically my question is, would it be worth it to fix it at this point? Or better yet, can I fix it on the cheap myself at home with a soldering iron? I'm probably going to get a new 4k TV in the summer anyways...

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Looks like you might be able to snag a replacement for about $100 on eBay, but you'll have to open the TV to match part numbers.

Probably no soldering required, those things usually use connectors.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

DariusLikewise posted:

I bought a Sharp LED TV about 4 years ago and recently it started clicking off as soon as I turn it on with no picture at all. I told it to the Sharp TV repair shop in town(apparently there's only one) and they told me the main power board is fried and it would be $500 to fix it. I think the exact model number is Sharp Aquos LC-52LE925UN.

Basically my question is, would it be worth it to fix it at this point? Or better yet, can I fix it on the cheap myself at home with a soldering iron? I'm probably going to get a new 4k TV in the summer anyways...

I'm just throwing this out there, but have you tried unplugging it, letting it sit for 30 minutes, then plugging it back in and trying it?

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

So, receivers. The major sites weren't much help in terms of making heads or tails of what is worth getting. I really just need 5.1, HDMI-CEC, and 4k 4:4:4@60hz support, at minimum cost.

Demon Avr-s720w is about as future proof as you can get currently and less than 500 bucks. No built in upscaling, but your tv will do that anyway.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Similarly priced is the Pioneer Elite VSX-LX101 which is also pretty future proofed. Both those receivers look pretty great for the money.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The 4k upscaling on the lower models is pretty much useless anyways since they max out at 30hz for the upscale. 24p native content in a 1080p60 transport upscaled to 4k30 isOHMYGODSTABMEINTHEEYESMAKEITSTOP.

I have an x2200w and I can't use the 4k upscaling at all because of that. Not that it matters.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Finally ordered up a 65" KS8000 through the Samsung EPP program, but now its on backorder.

This wait is going to be awful.

Prancing Shoes
Jul 8, 2008

Auron posted:

Finally ordered up a 65" KS8000 through the Samsung EPP program, but now its on backorder.

This wait is going to be awful.

I was able to price match the EPP price at Best Buy yesterday with zero problems. All I had to do was show them the price on my phone. Then I got home and immediately cancelled my EPP order. It's worth a shot to avoid dealing with Samsung's terrible customer service.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


How salty did they get? I know when I got them to price match my W900A with Frys, the manager was acting as if I was personally taking food out of their kid's mouth complaining that Sony might come after them for doing this.

Floor guy was pretty stoked though, he was considering doing it himself (it was something like $800 off their price.)

Prancing Shoes
Jul 8, 2008
Not salty at all really. I had to wait a bit for a manager because they seemed pretty busy, but when he finally showed up to authorized the price match, he spent all of 5 seconds looking at the price on my phone and performing the authorization before practically running away to go help other customers. Of course I also didn't mention that it was the EPP price. I simply showed them the website pulled up on my phone. If they wanted to pull it up on their computer, I would have just said "it's one of those websites where you need to log into to see the 'real' price" and given them my credentials.

I probably would have just stuck with my EPP order if I didn't hear terrible things about how difficult it is to deal with Samsung's customer service return/exchange if your TV shows up broken. Even cancelling my order the same day I placed it felt way more difficult than necessary, so I'm willing to believe the stuff I've heard.

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


Prancing Shoes posted:

Not salty at all really. I had to wait a bit for a manager because they seemed pretty busy, but when he finally showed up to authorized the price match, he spent all of 5 seconds looking at the price on my phone and performing the authorization before practically running away to go help other customers. Of course I also didn't mention that it was the EPP price. I simply showed them the website pulled up on my phone. If they wanted to pull it up on their computer, I would have just said "it's one of those websites where you need to log into to see the 'real' price" and given them my credentials.

I probably would have just stuck with my EPP order if I didn't hear terrible things about how difficult it is to deal with Samsung's customer service return/exchange if your TV shows up broken. Even cancelling my order the same day I placed it felt way more difficult than necessary, so I'm willing to believe the stuff I've heard.

A buddy of mine got a ks8000 with some dead pixels and Samsung accidentally sent him a nicer/larger model when they were replacing so it's not all bad

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

bull3964 posted:

Looks like you might be able to snag a replacement for about $100 on eBay, but you'll have to open the TV to match part numbers.

Probably no soldering required, those things usually use connectors.

Perfect, thank you.



GreenNight posted:

I'm just throwing this out there, but have you tried unplugging it, letting it sit for 30 minutes, then plugging it back in and trying it?

Several hundred times

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


FYI, Samsung's stupid looking but otherwise functional UHD Blu-ray player is only $189 at Costco.

Horn
Jun 18, 2004

Penetration is the key to success
College Slice
Is there a reason to not spend the extra 60 and get a xbox one s?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Still doesn't do bitstream (though it's coming) and it's had disc compatibility issues that I still don't know if they are fixed.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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bull3964 posted:

Still doesn't do bitstream (though it's coming) and it's had disc compatibility issues that I still don't know if they are fixed.

I would hope that the long-term support and software update story would be better on an Xbone S than a dedicated blu-ray player, and the 4K DRM specs are so aggressive and constantly changing that to be able to play discs 3 years from now, software updates will be needed.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


You would hope, but Microsoft has shifted focus back to games and they've said as much. The fact of the matter remains is the XboneS was incapable of playing several UHD titles and they were taking their sweet time to fix them. I still don't know if you can play "Lucy" on a one S.

It's also been temperamental about HDR output for UHD discs and a bit glitchy about black level output. It's just not a very polished experience and is very slow to improve.

If you want an XboneS for games, then it doesn't necessarily make sense to buy a standalone player. If you want it mostly for movie playback with a very occasional game, then it may not be the correct choice.

Trillest Parrot
Jul 9, 2006

trill parrots don't die

Prancing Shoes posted:


I probably would have just stuck with my EPP order if I didn't hear terrible things about how difficult it is to deal with Samsung's customer service return/exchange if your TV shows up broken. Even cancelling my order the same day I placed it felt way more difficult than necessary, so I'm willing to believe the stuff I've heard.
I ordered a KS8000 from Samsung on 11/30 and it was damaged in shipping, I'm still waiting for a shipping label to send it back. All the terrible things you've heard are true.

uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy
I'm not sure Samsung has shaped up but I had a standalone blu ray player in 2006 and the disc compatibility issues and months-long waits for firmware updates were maddening. Then they just stopped supporting it one day.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Yeah I'm particularly unimpressed with the Xbone S disc compatability as I've mentioned a few times. One UHD that won't load full stop and two bluray that crash at the main menu, out of say 12-15 discs I've put through it (all latest releases).

I'd probably still go for it over the Samsung, but that is a pretty good deal and hopefully a sign of things to come if the format has any chance of surviving.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Prancing Shoes posted:

I was able to price match the EPP price at Best Buy yesterday with zero problems. All I had to do was show them the price on my phone. Then I got home and immediately cancelled my EPP order. It's worth a shot to avoid dealing with Samsung's terrible customer service.

I tried two Best Buy's with no luck. They used their computers to look it up, and didn't help that when I did it on my phone the website is broken now. It shows $1079, but then when you add it to your cart it shows $1499.

At this point I'm considering just picking it up from Best Buy and returning the one I receive from Samsung to Best Buy.

Auron fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Dec 21, 2016

Prancing Shoes
Jul 8, 2008

Auron posted:

It shows $1079, but then when you add it to your cart it shows $1499.

Lame. I've heard this is a bug that exists for everyone. Apparently their customer support has acknowledged it and they claim it will be fixed within 24 hours.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
I'm so lost looking at TVs. Want a 55-60 inch screen. I'd like 4K and HDR due to more shows on Netflix and games starting to support it and I guess it's good anyway!

Everyone online is pointing towards the Samsung KS8000 or whatever, I guess a few things I just don't know. I'm mainly just going to watch Netflix or play PS4.

1. Curved vs flat? I looked at two of the Samsung models in a shop today and the curved seemed kinda nice but not sure of what the benefits are. We are in a room which can get some glare.

2. I like the smart TV stuff as I currently don't have one. I have an iPhone and iPad and a PlayStation 4. I understand Samsung seem to kill it with smart things, what else would work with what I have (or is it irrelevant) or what other brands are just good in the smart space while also being good TVs?

3. The KU7500 vs the KS8500 is a 750 difference in price where I am, what would o get for that price?


Finally I'm in Australia (melbourne) where is best to look? Jb hifi? Good guys? Online?

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
Get the KS7000 assuming Australia is following the EU naming convention (this is the American KS8000).

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Prancing Shoes posted:

Lame. I've heard this is a bug that exists for everyone. Apparently their customer support has acknowledged it and they claim it will be fixed within 24 hours.

Tried two more Best Buys last night, finally got the last one to match it without any questions.When I saw that manager was some early 20's girl I did a little victory dance in my head before she entered her price override numbers without batting an eye.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =

Dogen posted:

Get the KS7000 assuming Australia is following the EU naming convention (this is the American KS8000).

I think we follow the USA. So KS8000 it is then!

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
We don't have a KS7000 in the US. The KS8000 is the first S model.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
I'm getting confused. My local shop has a 7500 and an 8000, but most of the things online are saying we follow the USA with Samsung. Also I can't find a 7000 anywhere here.

ddogflex
Sep 19, 2004

blahblahblah
Is the Samsung EPP site supposed to still have the $1079 price? It's showing as $1499 now. I would 100% jump on it at $1079... Don't tell me I've missed it twice in a month!

Jinnigan
Feb 12, 2007

We shall pay him a visit. There will be a picnic. Tea shall be served.
Any recommendations for a 30-some odd TV? Just looking for something I could wall mount in my small room and maybe hook up a ps4 to eventually

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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That question comes up a fair amount, and the answer is always 'no, not really'. At that size just get something that isn't an obvious piece of junk and you should be fine.

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Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Is the Sceptre brand one of those cheapos that should be avoided? They seem to pop up at Walmart a lot but Wikipedia says the company has been around since 1993.

Edit: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sceptre-U550CV-U-55-4K-Ultra-HD-2160p-60Hz-LED-HDTV-4K-x-2K/46784939

I have a Wii U and that is probably the most intense gaming I would have. Otherwise it would be used for Netflix and Blu-ray. My budget is $400 or less. I've skimmed some reviews and it seems alright for that?

Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Dec 26, 2016

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