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BigRed0427 posted:So there is a quality curve to this show? It starts off rocky or whatever? Quite honestly, just watching the first few episodes of the first season then skipping to season 2 is probably not going to hurt your viewing pleasure. It isn't so much that the first season is bad, but like people said it just never hits its stride until season 2 and doesn't get REALLY good until the last few episodes of that and the first of episode 3. It finally starts focusing on stuff you'd actually care about then, being the main characters, the budding rebellion proper, and the dark/lightside struggles of the jedi that amount to actual character development.
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I've finally seen Rogue One and can return to the thread
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Dec 27, 2016 12:28
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evilmiera posted:Quite honestly, just watching the first few episodes of the first season then skipping to season 2 is probably not going to hurt your viewing pleasure. It isn't so much that the first season is bad, but like people said it just never hits its stride until season 2 and doesn't get REALLY good until the last few episodes of that and the first of episode 3.
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Dec 27, 2016 12:46
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Watch S1 anyway, it's more Chopper screentime and that's always good.
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Dec 27, 2016 13:46
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The episodes are only 20 minutes, watch season 1 as it sets things up. Only a few filler episodes in there and the second half of the season is pretty good and leads into season 2 a bit more.
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Dec 27, 2016 14:38
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im watching this now for the first time and I like it except that im pretty sure by the end of the first season you could leverage genocide charges against the main characters since they all seem to be able to kill 20 stormtroopers at once. thats the thing i hate most about star wars, stomr troopers are incompetant
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Dec 27, 2016 15:18
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Empress Brosephine posted:thats the thing i hate most about star wars, stomr troopers are incompetant They're conscript soldiers, stationed away from home, fitted with equipment designed around efficiency of mass production rather than efficiency in combat, and largely have no combat experience at all. Stormtroopers are more about keeping valuable bodies away from a rebellion they might otherwise join, and pitting them against it to boot. The Empire doesn't actually have any other nations it needs to defend itself against remember, there is nothing but the Empire, the entire point of the Imperial military is internal pacification.
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Dec 27, 2016 15:32
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NTRabbit posted:They're conscript soldiers, stationed away from home, fitted with equipment designed around efficiency of mass production rather than efficiency in combat, and largely have no combat experience at all. Please don't start this conversation now. I'm at work and I could easily spend the rest of the day talking about the politics of Star Wars and how Palpitene is the biggest moron instead of delivering mail.
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Dec 27, 2016 15:42
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NTRabbit posted:They're conscript soldiers, stationed away from home, fitted with equipment designed around efficiency of mass production rather than efficiency in combat, and largely have no combat experience at all. hmm that makes sense just you think one of them could atleast hit one of these goobers especially when theyre sitting in the middle of a battlefield monologing
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Dec 27, 2016 15:47
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Empress Brosephine posted:im watching this now for the first time and I like it except that im pretty sure by the end of the first season you could leverage genocide charges against the main characters since they all seem to be able to kill 20 stormtroopers at once. If you're keeping tallies, get a separate pad (or book) for Chopper. He's the genocidiest.
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Dec 27, 2016 15:56
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Empress Brosephine posted:hmm that makes sense just you think one of them could atleast hit one of these goobers especially when theyre sitting in the middle of a battlefield monologing Eh plot armor is an old friend of Star Wars Protagonists.
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Dec 27, 2016 16:06
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Empress Brosephine posted:im watching this now for the first time and I like it except that im pretty sure by the end of the first season you could leverage genocide charges against the main characters since they all seem to be able to kill 20 stormtroopers at once. Wait until S3, where straight-up war crimes by the Ghost Crew are the order of the day.
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Dec 27, 2016 16:40
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2016 had to take one more on the way out, rip Princess Leia
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NTRabbit posted:2016 had to take one more on the way out, rip Princess Leia Carrie Fisher...May the Force be with you. 
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Dec 27, 2016 19:21
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TheBigBad posted:Ahsoka is the best thing to come out of the prequels (indirectly). She's probably one of the better characters in Star Wars really, simply because she had so much screen time and wasn't constrained by expectation. Her and Ventress are easily the best things in the prequels. Galaga Galaxian posted:Its kinda funny that. Given she was such an annoying brat to start with. It's probably because she was such a brat that she became so interesting, since starting low means when you climb up it's easier to notice the difference and you have more to scale. Anakin and Luke are much the same too, starting out quite low as brats or whiners and growing up through conflict to become more balanced individuals. Icon Of Sin posted:Clone Wars Anakin is the best portrayal of him. You see the underlying darkness and reminders every so often of what he'll become, but he's still a better character than the actual prequels version of him. This is true. It's also kind of a pity that season 6 was cut short, since there's some great moments for him in the proto-episodes Lucasarts released using production models and incomplete animation. Him taking out all the guards using pistols as a grudgingly impressed Obi-Wan watches is great, but the real shame is him and Obi-Wan discussing how he feels about Ahsoka leaving around a campfire. It's a very blunt scene in terms of reference, since it foreshadows Anakin becoming Darth Vader hard, but the emotional conflict and pain he displays in the scene is fantastic and really helps cement his character even with such simplistic art. I'd really liked to have seen more of him, Ahsoka and Ventress for another season or two, just to see where the show intended to take them (yes I'm aware Ventress had a novel, but it'd still be nice) and how each of them reacted to what was happening.
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Dec 27, 2016 22:51
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You can see Anakin ripping his character development to shreds as Ahsoka walked down the temple steps. Frankly it's impressive he didn't start killing younglings right then and there.
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Dec 27, 2016 22:55
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Remind me of the s3 warcrimes? Other than that little incident in the first episode.
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Dec 28, 2016 02:43
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ShineDog posted:Remind me of the s3 warcrimes? Other than that little incident in the first episode. That's the one.
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Dec 28, 2016 02:47
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Funky Valentine posted:You can see Anakin ripping his character development to shreds as Ahsoka walked down the temple steps. Frankly it's impressive he didn't start killing younglings right then and there. The music gets me everytime I watch that episode.
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Dec 28, 2016 10:21
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teagone posted:The music gets me everytime I watch that episode. Kiner can really bring it when he gets a chance! I love that moment, Zeb's black hole theme from last season, Ahsoka vs. Vader, Kanan reaching for a plummeting Ezra... any others?
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Dec 28, 2016 17:38
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How can you forget the glorious Imperial Parade March, citizen?
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Dec 28, 2016 18:10
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I just love so many things about Empire Day that it's hard to remember them all. Great pick!
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Dec 28, 2016 18:24
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Oh cool, Princess Leia is in this episode.
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Dec 30, 2016 04:18
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There was too much going on onscreen to pay proper attention, but I feel like the Y-Wings in Rogue One had more of the Clone Wars era bodywork on them than the ANH ones, and I think I recall them having a yellow paint job - a link back to the Rebels ones maybe?
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Dec 30, 2016 04:22
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NTRabbit posted:There was too much going on onscreen to pay proper attention, but I feel like the Y-Wings in Rogue One had more of the Clone Wars era bodywork on them than the ANH ones, and I think I recall them having a yellow paint job - a link back to the Rebels ones maybe? Could be a link back to Rebels or TCW where I think they were almost solid yellow. Were they Gold Squadron in any of the original trilogy?
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Dec 30, 2016 07:25
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Yup, Gold Squadron also appears in ANH and RotJ.
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Dec 30, 2016 07:34
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Yes, Gold Squadron is from the OT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWJV_B1TzQM Minor Rogue One/ANH connection spoiler: Gold and Read Leads in Rogue One are the same Squadron commanders that die at the Battle of Yavin. Both were put in Rogue One via unused footage/audio from A New Hope Minor Trivia: Vander is an Onderonian like Saw. Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Dec 30, 2016 |
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Dec 30, 2016 07:36
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well I finally saw Rogue One did the Ghost make it you guys  it looked like it got out of the way of Vader's Star Destroyer but...
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Aces High posted:well I finally saw Rogue One I think so. It would be dark as gently caress for them to kill off the leads of the children's cartoon as an unannounced event in the background of a movie. I mean, even Rogue One is not that dark.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think so. It would be dark as gently caress for them to kill off the leads of the children's cartoon as an unannounced event in the background of a movie. I mean, even Rogue One is not that dark. 
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Dec 30, 2016 11:19
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Crashing would let everyone live as long as possible without some contrivance why they went silent ABY. Or they're just doing other stuff for most of the OT and we missed the Ghost at Endor because it's a tiny freighter. Let me have this, dammit!
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Dec 30, 2016 13:58
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With the updated editions of ROTJ, when you count all the engines there's about ten times as many ships fleeing the blast zone of the Death Star II than you actually see arrive at the battle, and that's after a bunch of them get swatted.
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Dec 30, 2016 14:09
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Aces High posted:well I finally saw Rogue One Yes, 1 Star Destroyer jumped in right after most of the small craft jumped. Vader was after the capital ship. The Ghost is safe.
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Dec 31, 2016 01:54
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TheBigBad posted:Yes, 1 Star Destroyer jumped in right after most of the small craft jumped. Vader was after the capital ship. The Ghost is safe. Yea but a bunch of smaller craft plowed right into the Devastator as they tried to escape. Everything involving Vader in Rogue one was scary as gently caress
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Dec 31, 2016 01:58
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I'm up to Shroud of Darkness. Yoda mentions Malachor. Does that mean the KOTOR games are still cannon? If so... 
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Dec 31, 2016 03:28
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twistedmentat posted:Yea but a bunch of smaller craft plowed right into the Devastator as they tried to escape. Everything involving Vader in Rogue one was scary as gently caress 2 troop transports did that. The Ghost was in the shot right before when the Admiral said make the jump to light speed. All the smaller ships jumped, which The Ghost would have been among, then Vader showed up in frame and the transports plowed into them. Remember the fleet took out 2 Star Destroyers and the planetary shield generator. By all counts, this is militarily a Rebellion win.
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Dec 31, 2016 03:55
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Pyrrhic victory at best, surely?
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Dec 31, 2016 03:58
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Pyrrhic victory at best, surely? PRetty much. By the end of 4, the Rebel fleet is pretty much decimated. Also, when were A Wings considered the Red Shirts of the Rebel fleet? BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Dec 31, 2016 |
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Dec 31, 2016 03:59
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BigRed0427 posted:I'm up to Shroud of Darkness. Korriban was changed to Morriban for some reason, but since the KOTOR games are so goddamned far in the past there is no reason to assume otherwise unless stated directly.
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BigRed0427 posted:Also, when were A Wings considered the Red Shirts of the Rebel fleet?
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