Iglocska posted:

If that's the case, what took them 2 days?...

Iglocska posted:

If that's the case, what took them 2 days?...

Ben Parry posted:

I think I explained further up, but it's probably buried.
If your modifications are relative to 3.7, and their modifications start diverging at 3.8, then switching from "modded 3.7 CryEngine" to "modded 3.7 Lumberyard" is no changes, because you're at a point before theirs diverged.

CrazyLoon posted:

I love how goons can't even remember his actual name, just the name his old AV got remembered by and which drove him mad.

Tippis posted:

The licensing move to LY is boring, so I choose to further harp on the 100 sextillion “kilometres”…

Assuming that it's actually insanely incompetently labelled km³, let's compare that number to some other space games.

EVE systems will happily have a radius of 100 AU (1.496×10¹⁰ km), for a volume of 1.402×10³¹ km³.
There are 7,500 systems in the game, for a total game volume of 1.052×10³⁵ km³, or 105 decillion cubic kilometres — four "illions" (i.e. 12 orders of magnitude) more than the pitiful state of SC.

E:D has the Milky Way. It contains 400 billion star systems. Each system will effectively let you fly until Microsoft forces a reboot due to system updates, but let's cap it at 400,000 Ls each (1.199×10¹¹ km) because when you arrive in a binary system with that distance between the stars, you say “gently caress it, that's too far” and jump out… unless you're going to Proxima Centauri. That would put the radius at 5.995×10¹⁰ km, and volume at 9.025×10³² km³ each, and the total game volume at 3.61×10⁴⁴ km³, or 361 tredecillion cubic kilometres — three illions more than EVE and seven more than SC (so 21 orders of magnitude more).

KSP has its farthest planet, Eeloo, at an apoapsis of 113,549, 713 km — 379 Ls (~0.76 AU) — which is practically spitting distance in space. You can travel beyond that to get a better transfer orbit, but let's use that distance anyway just to underplay the size of the Kerbol system. That radius means the system has a volume of 6.13263×10²⁴ km³ — 6 septillion cubic kilometres, or a full order of magnitude more than SC.



…in fact, just for fun.
Freelancer (post-campaign) has 45 systems, with a size varying from 80×80 km to about 200×200 — let's say 120×120 on average. There's never any real reason to exit the ecliptic, but targets and docking ports may appear in a ±4km zone from that. So that's just under 4 million km³ — almost six “illions” (actually 17 orders of magnitude) smaller than SC.

XK posted:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/259596-The-Star-Citizen-Thread-v5?p=4943682&viewfull=1#post4943682


Oh. He actually said this.

I thought the reasonable assumption was that they were using new Lumberyard stuff for Star Marine, and their existing code for the rest. But this, wow. I would feel like a completely immoral sociopath by telling my $140m backers that I switched engines, without detailing that the change is currently only licensing related, and almost no functionality or implementation (code) has changed.

I'm still hesitant to believe that's what actually happened.

spacetoaster posted:

Ben Parry posted:

Ah, I think I see your misunderstanding. You think SC has switched from StarEngine to Lumberyard. Actually StarEngine has switched from being a modification of CryEngine to being a modification of Lumberyard.
Can you see that because Lumberyard and CryEngine split away from one another at 3.8, if you rewound either of them to 3.7, they'd be the same as each other?
Right, so with StarEngine branching off at that shared 3.7 point, can you see that it doesn't matter which one it's a modification of?

Iglocska posted:

If that's the case, what took them 2 days?...

Roflan posted:

This is not how you respond to someone making an offhand quip that your name reminds them of something.

Oh, and Bester did nothing wrong.

XK posted:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/259596-The-Star-Citizen-Thread-v5?p=4943734&viewfull=1#post4943734


Dude, wtf?

It looks like that is seriously what happened.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Donald Trump is descended from white people.

I am descended from white people.

Therefore I am Donald Trump.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

It is, however, how you open up one of the most hilarious episodes of autism and stupidity that I have ever encountered. The kind of experience that convinces you that, no matter what, loving with the community alone will make the time worthwhile.

Roflan posted:

Oh, and Bester did nothing wrong.

spacetoaster posted:

Do you, or anyone here, have a copy of the peas agreement we drew up? I'm going to add bester to our drama thread.

spacetoaster posted:

Do you, or anyone here, have a copy of the peas agreement we drew up? I'm going to add bester to our drama thread.

CrazyLoon posted:

Or the screenshots of Coda and his 'nukes launched' incident that prompted it? I seriously regret now counting on Goonrathi obsession to do it instead of me.

Ben Parry posted:

1500 posted:

You mean like you did in this thread? Yes you don't know what version SC is on, but talk about authority of aspects you have no connection with. Seems like a glass house to me.

Nope I showed you saying that upgrading is a real pain, and now you are saying its supper easy. Only thing that has changed is what CIG has done. Interesting how it was too much of a pain then, but its super easy now.

Still no. This is starting to get tedious.
Switching is easy, full-version upgrading is hard.
Switching at a point after the upgrades have diverged is extra hard.
What's been done is switching.
So it wasn't hard.

XK posted:

What What What?

What?

AbstractNapper posted:

A woman, called Cate, decides to have a plastic surgery on her... face. This decision is made on 03/07.

She takes a picture of herself, that same day, and starts photo-shopping it for a month, saving her work in a file named "SE.parp", trying to visualize how awesome her new face will look. She has no real skills nor any experience with plastic surgery and the result looks awful.

A month later, at 03/08 she has the surgery and looks quite different. From both what she looked before and what she had photo-shopped. The woman changes her name to Lucy, that very day.

"SE.parp" is still a botched photoshop of an old Lucy/Cate photo, but shows nothing of how Lucy looks, it has none of her new features. It is however an edited photo of Lucy.

Is my terrible allegory of what happened with the "switch to Lumberyard".

Iglocska posted:

A better allegory would be that Cate took a picture of her face on 03/07 and sent it off to a surgeon to see what he could do with her based on the picture. The surgeon got to work on photoshop to make the adjustments that she should expect.

At the same time she took chainsaw and a sledge hammer to her face to "improve it".

The surgeon in the meanwhile died of a terrible case of lovely finances, but to Cate's surprise a second surgeon also took a copy of the picture she sent in and created a photoshopped image of what he could sculpt out of her. She was absolutely enthusiastic about the result and partially due to the massive brain damage caused by the sledge hammer, she exclaimed to the world that she switched surgeons and that she now looks like the picture the surgeon created.

Iglocska posted:

The surgeon in the meanwhile died of a terrible case of lovely finances, but to Cate's surprise a second surgeon also took a copy of the picture she sent in and created a photoshopped image of what he could sculpt out of her. She was absolutely enthusiastic about the result and partially due to the massive brain damage caused by the sledge hammer, she exclaimed to the world that she switched surgeons and that she now looks like the picture the surgeon created.

AbstractNapper posted:

Yeah, I think this works better too.
Plus there is no way in hell Cate will ever recover from the damage she's done to her face and look anywhere close to her old self, let alone what the second surgeon photoshopped.

But at least she's happy.